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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:45 pm    Post subject:

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Where is the PG from Marquette expected to go? He is 5'11" or 5'10" but can score from all spots on the floor 9n college and has a nice step back Harden move.


2nd round to undrafted.

Hope he turns out like Dana Barros.


I used to be down on guys like him but now believe they have a place in the NBA. Too many sub 6' PG's that are effective NBA players. Will need to watch a game or 2 to get a better feel for him.

Hopefully better than Barros and closer to Mills or Vanvleet.
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Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:46 pm    Post subject:

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I like Matthews from Michigan a lot to Mike. Just didn't know where he was projected to go.


I personally have him late 1st, but I have a lot of guys late 1st, more than the slots allotted, hence the idea of trading down.

My hipster picks would be Haliburton and Charles Matthews and roll with that.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.


Coincidentally I just went to tankathon and ran the SIM and the Lakers jumped 11 spots to the Number 2 pick behind Chicago that got the number 1 pick With Atlanta Picking 3rd and Phoenix Picking 4th, the Knicks 5th and Cleveland 6th
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:

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Mike@LG wrote:
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Where is the PG from Marquette expected to go? He is 5'11" or 5'10" but can score from all spots on the floor 9n college and has a nice step back Harden move.


2nd round to undrafted.

Hope he turns out like Dana Barros.


I used to be down on guys like him but now believe they have a place in the NBA. Too many sub 6' PG's that are effective NBA players. Will need to watch a game or 2 to get a better feel for him.

Hopefully better than Barros and closer to Mills or Vanvleet.


I don't expect the shooting to translate immediately, so I tend to be down on scoring PGs that rely so much on screens/shooting.

It's different with Carsen Edwards, who is at least a drive threat, or Tre Jones as a playmaker/defender better than his shooting.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:49 pm    Post subject:

MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Klutch Sports Group wrote:
Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.


Coincidentally I just went to tankathon and ran the SIM and the Lakers jumped 11 spots to the Number 2 pick behind Chicago that got the number 1 pick With Atlanta Picking 3rd and Phoenix Picking 4th, the Knicks 5th and Cleveland 6th


Trade the pick, get assets, try to get AD again before FA without giving up much.

Otherwise, either trade down for a pick that gets Jaxson Hayes/DeAndre Hunter and a 2nd rounder.

If keeping the pick, it's a boatrace between RJ Barrett and Jarrett Culver for me, and that depends on workouts.

If there's a slim possibility of Culver being able to play 4...
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:51 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
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Where is the PG from Marquette expected to go? He is 5'11" or 5'10" but can score from all spots on the floor 9n college and has a nice step back Harden move.


2nd round to undrafted.

Hope he turns out like Dana Barros.


I used to be down on guys like him but now believe they have a place in the NBA. Too many sub 6' PG's that are effective NBA players. Will need to watch a game or 2 to get a better feel for him.

Hopefully better than Barros and closer to Mills or Vanvleet.


I don't expect the shooting to translate immediately, so I tend to be down on scoring PGs that rely so much on screens/shooting.

It's different with Carsen Edwards, who is at least a drive threat, or Tre Jones as a playmaker/defender better than his shooting.


I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.
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I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.


Tyus is the slightly better shooter.

Tre is the better defender.

Both have tremendous hoop IQ.
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I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.


Tyus is the slightly better shooter.

Tre is the better defender.

Both have tremendous hoop IQ.


My issue is they both played on very good to great college teams and were not required to extend themselves to show any special type of skill. They are both average to good athletes but will have no advantage against NBA defenders.

For short PG's I prefer those who can shoot unless they bring something else special to the court like Lonzo (playmaking, rebounding, defense).
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:06 pm    Post subject:

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I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.


Tyus is the slightly better shooter.

Tre is the better defender.

Both have tremendous hoop IQ.


My issue is they both played on very good to great college teams and were not required to extend themselves to show any special type of skill. They are both average to good athletes but will have no advantage against NBA defenders.

For short PG's I prefer those who can shoot unless they bring something else special to the court like Lonzo (playmaking, rebounding, defense).


I mean, in general I'm against back up PG types, but there's also the chance that he's the BPA.

FWIW, I think Tyus was incredibly underrated by Thibs and only now he's getting the PT under the new head coach.

For both guys, their special skills were floor generals/defense. It was never scoring based.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject:

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I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.


I am not sure what type of pro he will be....but I can tell you I have watched this Duke team with him and without him....and it is night and day. He is critical to their overall success.
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I exclusively watched Tre for one game and was not impressed. How do you rate him compared to his brother? My concern is his brother has not been able to see much playing time so far.


I am not sure what type of pro he will be....but I can tell you I have watched this Duke team with him and without him....and it is night and day. He is critical to their overall success.


I agree. Not questioning his contributions to Duke's success this year but how his game will translate to the NBA. I just thought Tyus who was so instrumental in Duke winning the NCAA would by this stage of his career be a starting PG. Maybe it was Thibs who held him back. I see a lot of Tyus in Tre so I am skeptical of him as a top prospect.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:50 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Klutch Sports Group wrote:
Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.


Coincidentally I just went to tankathon and ran the SIM and the Lakers jumped 11 spots to the Number 2 pick behind Chicago that got the number 1 pick With Atlanta Picking 3rd and Phoenix Picking 4th, the Knicks 5th and Cleveland 6th


Trade the pick, get assets, try to get AD again before FA without giving up much.

Otherwise, either trade down for a pick that gets Jaxson Hayes/DeAndre Hunter and a 2nd rounder.

If keeping the pick, it's a boatrace between RJ Barrett and Jarrett Culver for me, and that depends on workouts.

If there's a slim possibility of Culver being able to play 4...


What do you think the 2nd pick would get us?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:21 pm    Post subject:

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What do you think the 2nd pick would get us?


RJ Barrett or Jarrett Culver. I think Barrett is the outside shot to be a franchise player more immediately, but he has decision-making issues. Culver is different, but at the NCAA level, he's doing what Brandon Ingram does with PnR and spot up shooting much better.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject:

a guy we will likely be talking about next year in this thread, 5 Star SG Anthony Edwards (#1 247, #2 Rivals, #5 ESPN) college c/o 2019 (likely 2020 NBA Draft) committed to the University of Georgia.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:35 am    Post subject:

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a guy we will likely be talking about next year in this thread, 5 Star SG Anthony Edwards (#1 247, #2 Rivals, #5 ESPN) college c/o 2019 (likely 2020 NBA Draft) committed to the University of Georgia.

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He's gonna be a good one!!
https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/02/11/anthony-edwards-commits-georgia-bulldogs-recruiting-tom-crean
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:41 am    Post subject:

Cole Anthony is going to be something special too!
(Greg Anthony's son/ Melo's cousin).

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/cole-anthony

https://www.oakhillhoops.com/news_article/show/989419
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:52 am    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Klutch Sports Group wrote:
Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.


Coincidentally I just went to tankathon and ran the SIM and the Lakers jumped 11 spots to the Number 2 pick behind Chicago that got the number 1 pick With Atlanta Picking 3rd and Phoenix Picking 4th, the Knicks 5th and Cleveland 6th


Trade the pick, get assets, try to get AD again before FA without giving up much.

Otherwise, either trade down for a pick that gets Jaxson Hayes/DeAndre Hunter and a 2nd rounder.

If keeping the pick, it's a boatrace between RJ Barrett and Jarrett Culver for me, and that depends on workouts.

If there's a slim possibility of Culver being able to play 4...

if we do a pre-draft trade, is it possible to keep AD off our books until the free agency starts so we can use up our cap space first?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject:

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if we do a pre-draft trade, is it possible to keep AD off our books until the free agency starts so we can use up our cap space first?


only if the trade is not finalized until you can take care of free agency work....which would require the other team to be game (not likely if New Orleans). Once the league office finalizes deal, AD is on the books and whatever traded is off.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:52 pm    Post subject:

Who is the best guy in 10-14 range?

I think that's where we will draft
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:58 pm    Post subject:

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Who is the best guy in 10-14 range?

I think that's where we will draft

Is there any decent consolation prize?
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audioaxes wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
MJST wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
Klutch Sports Group wrote:
Would be happy if we ended up with Ponds or PJ Washington


And if the Lakers were picking in the teens, I'd be upset.


What if they were the 9th seed and somehow landed the Number 1 pick on a 1% chance?


Then you know I'm the happiest guy.


Coincidentally I just went to tankathon and ran the SIM and the Lakers jumped 11 spots to the Number 2 pick behind Chicago that got the number 1 pick With Atlanta Picking 3rd and Phoenix Picking 4th, the Knicks 5th and Cleveland 6th


Trade the pick, get assets, try to get AD again before FA without giving up much.

Otherwise, either trade down for a pick that gets Jaxson Hayes/DeAndre Hunter and a 2nd rounder.

If keeping the pick, it's a boatrace between RJ Barrett and Jarrett Culver for me, and that depends on workouts.

If there's a slim possibility of Culver being able to play 4...

if we do a pre-draft trade, is it possible to keep AD off our books until the free agency starts so we can use up our cap space first?



Depending on how other things go, the player selected with the 2019 first might need to have a signed contract so that he can be included as outgoing salary in a major trade.
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Who is the best guy in 10-14 range?

I think that's where we will draft


you really think we will be in the lottery? I personally think we will be drafting around #17 or #18. Looking over several mocks, it appears that is where some of the "good college big men, but unsure if they will do well in the NBA" type guys start coming off the board....guys like Daniel Gafford, PJ Washington, Brandon Clarke, and Jontay Porter to name a few. Not very exciting stuff in my opinion.
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Who is the best guy in 10-14 range?

I think that's where we will draft


you really think we will be in the lottery? I personally think we will be drafting around #17 or #18. Looking over several mocks, it appears that is where some of the "good college big men, but unsure if they will do well in the NBA" type guys start coming off the board....guys like Daniel Gafford, PJ Washington, Brandon Clarke, and Jontay Porter to name a few. Not very exciting stuff in my opinion.


Would u trade that pick for mo bamba? I prefer to get guys on 2/3 year then draft another rookie
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject:

If we lose to Atlanta I'd say that's about as close to "That's it" as it could get.

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What do you think the 2nd pick would get us?


RJ Barrett or Jarrett Culver. I think Barrett is the outside shot to be a franchise player more immediately, but he has decision-making issues. Culver is different, but at the NCAA level, he's doing what Brandon Ingram does with PnR and spot up shooting much better.


Would you consider Barrett a perfect fit next to Lonzo?
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