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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject:

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Any way Terance Mann drops to the 50s?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Any way Terance Mann drops to the 50s?


Yes.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:32 pm    Post subject:

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Any way Terance Mann drops to the 50s?


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:35 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhtwG6s1T8 lol look at how unimpressive FVV was in his draft workout. I might have to rethink Ty Jerome


I was not high on him out of college. Thought he was an intangibles/leader type of player. Never expected him to succeed as he has.

He is one of the reasons I feel Cassius Winston can play in the NBA. I see Mike has Cassius listed in his post above but I thought he was returning to college.

Edit: what about Kyle Guy?


I think Winston has a better chance to make it. I'm out on Kyle Guy.


Was thinking maybe Guy had some Mark Price in him.

Need to find out if he has any hidden PG skills.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:44 pm    Post subject:

2.5 days left for NO to find a taker for #4...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhtwG6s1T8 lol look at how unimpressive FVV was in his draft workout. I might have to rethink Ty Jerome


I was not high on him out of college. Thought he was an intangibles/leader type of player. Never expected him to succeed as he has.

He is one of the reasons I feel Cassius Winston can play in the NBA. I see Mike has Cassius listed in his post above but I thought he was returning to college.

Edit: what about Kyle Guy?


I think Winston has a better chance to make it. I'm out on Kyle Guy.


Was thinking maybe Guy had some Mark Price in him.

Need to find out if he has any hidden PG skills.


Pretty big tell in the last game of the NCAA tourney when he got played off the court for a bit and Ty Jerome played PG for UVA.

Guy ran PG all year up until the last few games of the tourney.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:00 pm    Post subject:

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We need to do everything we can to acquire a early second round or late first round pick.

We NEED to get Carsen Edwards. He will fit next to LBJ and AD perfectly


Adding to this point, I really do think we’re in the market for an early second round pick. From what I remember, 2nd round picks are not guaranteed contracts and so won’t affect our salary cap situation as we head into free agency.

I really do expect the lakers to acquire an early second round pick. Maybe from a team like the 76ers. Good talent to be had in that early second round



They traded cash and a future second to get the fairly early second that became Bonga. Maybe Philadelphia will trade a second for cash or ask for cash and a future second as they did last year.


There is a limit on the amount of cash that can be sent out per season. The cash limit for next season should be about $5,610,000.

There should be about $3.7 million left to spend in cash for the current season.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:06 pm    Post subject:

Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:16 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhtwG6s1T8 lol look at how unimpressive FVV was in his draft workout. I might have to rethink Ty Jerome


I was not high on him out of college. Thought he was an intangibles/leader type of player. Never expected him to succeed as he has.

He is one of the reasons I feel Cassius Winston can play in the NBA. I see Mike has Cassius listed in his post above but I thought he was returning to college.

Edit: what about Kyle Guy?


I think Winston has a better chance to make it. I'm out on Kyle Guy.


Was thinking maybe Guy had some Mark Price in him.

Need to find out if he has any hidden PG skills.


Pretty big tell in the last game of the NCAA tourney when he got played off the court for a bit and Ty Jerome played PG for UVA.

Guy ran PG all year up until the last few games of the tourney.


He did? I thought Jerome was the PG and Kihei held the backup PG spot.

Seemed to me Guy was trying to spot himself for a shot or run off screens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:19 pm    Post subject:

poppajons wrote:
Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.


gon be a Laker tax plus an "oh you contending now?" tax
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:21 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhtwG6s1T8 lol look at how unimpressive FVV was in his draft workout. I might have to rethink Ty Jerome


I was not high on him out of college. Thought he was an intangibles/leader type of player. Never expected him to succeed as he has.

He is one of the reasons I feel Cassius Winston can play in the NBA. I see Mike has Cassius listed in his post above but I thought he was returning to college.

Edit: what about Kyle Guy?


I think Winston has a better chance to make it. I'm out on Kyle Guy.


Was thinking maybe Guy had some Mark Price in him.

Need to find out if he has any hidden PG skills.


Pretty big tell in the last game of the NCAA tourney when he got played off the court for a bit and Ty Jerome played PG for UVA.

Guy ran PG all year up until the last few games of the tourney.


He did? I thought Jerome was the PG and Kihei held the backup PG spot.

Seemed to me Guy was trying to spot himself for a shot or run off screens.


Throughout the year, it was guy at PG. Then later into the game, Jerome would switch responsibilities, and they'd run Guy off screens. Makes sense, that's his best strength. Against easy teams, Guy ran the offense and Jerome was being ran off screens and spotting up.

But when the comp got harder, Guy essentially got played off the floor. Even Clark was a more polished ball-handler/decision-maker.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:31 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
Mike@LG wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhtwG6s1T8 lol look at how unimpressive FVV was in his draft workout. I might have to rethink Ty Jerome


I was not high on him out of college. Thought he was an intangibles/leader type of player. Never expected him to succeed as he has.

He is one of the reasons I feel Cassius Winston can play in the NBA. I see Mike has Cassius listed in his post above but I thought he was returning to college.

Edit: what about Kyle Guy?


I think Winston has a better chance to make it. I'm out on Kyle Guy.


Was thinking maybe Guy had some Mark Price in him.

Need to find out if he has any hidden PG skills.


Pretty big tell in the last game of the NCAA tourney when he got played off the court for a bit and Ty Jerome played PG for UVA.

Guy ran PG all year up until the last few games of the tourney.


He did? I thought Jerome was the PG and Kihei held the backup PG spot.

Seemed to me Guy was trying to spot himself for a shot or run off screens.


Throughout the year, it was guy at PG. Then later into the game, Jerome would switch responsibilities, and they'd run Guy off screens. Makes sense, that's his best strength. Against easy teams, Guy ran the offense and Jerome was being ran off screens and spotting up.

But when the comp got harder, Guy essentially got played off the floor. Even Clark was a more polished ball-handler/decision-maker.


Okay, I was mainly going off memory of the championship game.

Do you see any difference between Guy and Seth Curry? They seem similar athletically and profile with similar skills.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:34 pm    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
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Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.


gon be a Laker tax plus an "oh you contending now?" tax


Can 2nd round picks sign to be a 2 way player?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:39 pm    Post subject:

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Do you see any difference between Guy and Seth Curry? They seem similar athletically and profile with similar skills.


Seth took awhile to get to where he was at, but the biggest separation for me is ball handling and general strength. Maybe a degree of athleticism; I don't really remember Guy with a floater game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:46 pm    Post subject:

Seth got 2 inches of reach too. Guy got more bounce in theory though
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:52 pm    Post subject:

PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
poppajons wrote:
Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.


gon be a Laker tax plus an "oh you contending now?" tax


Can 2nd round picks sign to be a 2 way player?


Shake Milton?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 8:57 pm    Post subject:

Bard207 wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
poppajons wrote:
Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.


gon be a Laker tax plus an "oh you contending now?" tax


Can 2nd round picks sign to be a 2 way player?


Shake Milton?


Thanks. I would presume the player needs to agree to sign as a 2 way player.
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PlantedTanks wrote:
Bard207 wrote:
PlantedTanks wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
poppajons wrote:
Put your bets on the Lakers buying a 2nd round pick. They have a real eye for drafting and will spend a few million to roll the dice.


gon be a Laker tax plus an "oh you contending now?" tax


Can 2nd round picks sign to be a 2 way player?


Shake Milton?


Thanks. I would presume the player needs to agree to sign as a 2 way player.



Yes. He was a fairly late second round pick, so he is a bit of a longshot to stick in the NBA.


Milton

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Signed two-way contract on Thursday, July 26, 2018.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 9:25 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
Any way Terance Mann drops to the 50s?


How bout Juwanna Mann?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:03 pm    Post subject:

Looking at the players the Lakers have supposedly worked out and are considered as late 2nd to UDFA's I prefer them in the following order

Justin Wright Foreman - PG
LaGerald Vick - SG
Marques Bolden - C
Aric Holman - PF, C
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:07 pm    Post subject:

I like Holman. He’s in the early 50s on my board
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:14 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't draft LaGerald Vick.

Same for Bolden.

But if DeLaurier is available, that's the guy.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 10:52 pm    Post subject:

My dream draft for us is probably.. Konchar in the 50s and Waters UDFA. Waters is a nice little upside pick relative to his draft position. I really loved him as a Freshman but I feel his weight gain took away some of the quickness that really popped off the screen as a Soph
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2019 11:45 pm    Post subject:

Mike@LG wrote:
I wouldn't draft LaGerald Vick.

Same for Bolden.

But if DeLaurier is available, that's the guy.


Questionable work ethic?

As an athlete Vick reminds me of Miye. Had a real good shooting year.

Bolden is a serviceable big for me. Good height, length with the size to play in the NBA.

My preferences are just based on YT vids as I never specifically watched these players during the season.

I just believe if the Lakers acquire a 2nd round pick or sign UDFA's they will target players they have worked out.
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