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matrixskillz
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| noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | https://twitter.com/HoopInDetail/status/1110271898129035264?s=20 thread of about a dozen instances of Coby White just losing his handle himself. sometimes he does nice dribble moves and a lot of other times he just can't dribble the ball.
That combined w the same length as Garland but being like 3" taller, PG length. doesn't project well for him at all defensively |
He's a shooting Gaurd that would be best coming off a pick and roll or screen and taking a nice quick shot. He is also a speedster.
Perfect combo with ball |
agreed. he's also a solid spot up shooter, something we desperately need.
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The more I dive into these prospects the harder it becomes. So many good players. The 3-player draft narrative is just complete non-sense. At this point I've just about convinced myself the only logical thing would be to trade down w Atlanta if possible and select 1 of the remaining 2 of Coby White or Cam Reddish at 8 and then go risky at 10 and draft Bol Bol.
If he manages to stay relatively healthy throughout his career, and that is a massive if, then its possible that Bol becomes the best player out of this draft class. He plays like a 6'8 guy in a 7'2 body. That is the type of player I would want the lakers to go after if they do indeed trade down and get both picks. He can also shoot the hell out of the ball for 7'2 guy shooting 50% from 3's in college.
Not taking any free agents into account and only looking at guys under contract, if they do trade down and draft Reddish/Bol with 8/10, the roster starts resembling a balanced team
G: Lonzo Ball
G: Cam Reddish
F: Brandon Ingram
F: Lebron James
C: Bol Bol
Bench:
G: Alex Caruso
G: Josh Hart
F: Isaac Bonga
F: Kyle Kuzma
C: Mo Wagner
With the max slot open, fill out the remaining holes of the roster accordingly, most notably, a starting SG and a starting C. Although I think I can be convinced that Bol can start at the 5 depending on how his body responds to banging down low w opposing 5's
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| Inverse wrote: | | The more I dive into these prospects the harder it becomes. So many good players. The 3-player draft narrative is just complete non-sense. |
This draft is going to have 4 maybe even 5 all-stars and someone from the top-3 won't be an all-star.
All of these players have all-star potential.
Zion
Morant
Barrett
Garland
White
Hayes
Hunter
Culver
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Sentient Meat
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| Inverse wrote: | The more I dive into these prospects the harder it becomes. So many good players. The 3-player draft narrative is just complete non-sense. At this point I've just about convinced myself the only logical thing would be to trade down w Atlanta if possible and select 1 of the remaining 2 of Coby White or Cam Reddish at 8 and then go risky at 10 and draft Bol Bol.
If he manages to stay relatively healthy throughout his career, and that is a massive if, then its possible that Bol becomes the best player out of this draft class. He plays like a 6'8 guy in a 7'2 body. That is the type of player I would want the lakers to go after if they do indeed trade down and get both picks. He can also shoot the hell out of the ball for 7'2 guy shooting 50% from 3's in college.
Not taking any free agents into account and only looking at guys under contract, if they do trade down and draft Reddish/Bol with 8/10, the roster starts resembling a balanced team
G: Lonzo Ball
G: Cam Reddish
F: Brandon Ingram
F: Lebron James
C: Bol Bol
Bench:
G: Alex Caruso
G: Josh Hart
F: Isaac Bonga
F: Kyle Kuzma
C: Mo Wagner
With the max slot open, fill out the remaining holes of the roster accordingly, most notably, a starting SG and a starting C. Although I think I can be convinced that Bol can start at the 5 depending on how his body responds to banging down low w opposing 5's |
I like this idea except with Coby over Reddish... but I wouldn't want to do it unless they had the balls to take Bol with 10. |
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | The more I dive into these prospects the harder it becomes. So many good players. The 3-player draft narrative is just complete non-sense. At this point I've just about convinced myself the only logical thing would be to trade down w Atlanta if possible and select 1 of the remaining 2 of Coby White or Cam Reddish at 8 and then go risky at 10 and draft Bol Bol.
If he manages to stay relatively healthy throughout his career, and that is a massive if, then its possible that Bol becomes the best player out of this draft class. He plays like a 6'8 guy in a 7'2 body. That is the type of player I would want the lakers to go after if they do indeed trade down and get both picks. He can also shoot the hell out of the ball for 7'2 guy shooting 50% from 3's in college.
Not taking any free agents into account and only looking at guys under contract, if they do trade down and draft Reddish/Bol with 8/10, the roster starts resembling a balanced team
G: Lonzo Ball
G: Cam Reddish
F: Brandon Ingram
F: Lebron James
C: Bol Bol
Bench:
G: Alex Caruso
G: Josh Hart
F: Isaac Bonga
F: Kyle Kuzma
C: Mo Wagner
With the max slot open, fill out the remaining holes of the roster accordingly, most notably, a starting SG and a starting C. Although I think I can be convinced that Bol can start at the 5 depending on how his body responds to banging down low w opposing 5's |
I like this idea except with Coby over Reddish... but I wouldn't want to do it unless they had the balls to take Bol with 10. |
I'd draft Coby over Cam too its just that I don't see him slipping past the Bulls since they desperately need a PG. 7 is the lowest he'll go IMO
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Reddish and Bol Bol is like the absolute worst possible haul you can get from #8 and #10.
Neither player would even be ready to be in the rotation this year and both can end up being busts.
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| €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Negative wingspan?! Dafuq?! |
Negative wingspan is when your wingspan is less that your height.
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| audioaxes wrote: | Reddish and Bol Bol is like the absolute worst possible haul you can get from #8 and #10.
Neither player would even be ready to be in the rotation this year and both can end up being busts. |
Bol will be a bust only if he proves to be injury prone. If healthy, he is too skilled at 7'2 to ever be a bust
Cam has a high enough floor to also stave off the label of being a bust. He may never turn out to be an all-star, but at 6'8 and the ability to put the rock down and shoot, he'll always have a role on an NBA team.
I disagree with your take on them not contributing next year. They both are good shooters and we know what LeBron can do with shooters. I have no doubt Cam can contribute next year. Bol is a little bit of a question mark but can definitely see his size and wingspan being a 'disruptor' on the defensive end
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| Laker7 wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Negative wingspan?! Dafuq?! |
Negative wingspan is when your wingspan is less that your height.
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That clears it up for any of us that though it was when your arms grow the wrong direction. |
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LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Inverse wrote: |
Cam has a high enough floor to also stave off the label of being a bust. He may never turn out to be an all-star, but at 6'8 and the ability to put the rock down and shoot, he'll always have a role on an NBA team.
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What a ridiculous statement to make, since Cam played god awful last season and was essentially a bust in college. Assuming that's as bad as he can possibly play, he's shown his floor and it's not pretty. No player is immune to being a bust. |
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| a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
Whoa Blake uhhh yeah nah |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
you just traded away the cap space to sign Kyrie |
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| a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
No for so many reasons. That team would implode by the end of the preseason. |
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| Inverse wrote: | | audioaxes wrote: | Reddish and Bol Bol is like the absolute worst possible haul you can get from #8 and #10.
Neither player would even be ready to be in the rotation this year and both can end up being busts. |
Bol will be a bust only if he proves to be injury prone. If healthy, he is too skilled at 7'2 to ever be a bust
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What type of injury?
Heard Bol Bol could miss weeks with a hang nail. |
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| LakerMindLA wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | | The more I dive into these prospects the harder it becomes. So many good players. The 3-player draft narrative is just complete non-sense. |
This draft is going to have 4 maybe even 5 all-stars and someone from the top-3 won't be an all-star.
All of these players have all-star potential.
Zion
Morant
Barrett
Garland
White
Hayes
Hunter
Culver
KPJ
Bol Bol
Reddish |
You sleeping on Rui |
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| matrixskillz wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | https://twitter.com/HoopInDetail/status/1110271898129035264?s=20 thread of about a dozen instances of Coby White just losing his handle himself. sometimes he does nice dribble moves and a lot of other times he just can't dribble the ball.
That combined w the same length as Garland but being like 3" taller, PG length. doesn't project well for him at all defensively |
He's a shooting Gaurd that would be best coming off a pick and roll or screen and taking a nice quick shot. He is also a speedster.
Perfect combo with ball |
agreed. he's also a solid spot up shooter, something we desperately need. |
This guy gets it |
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| a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | https://twitter.com/HoopInDetail/status/1110271898129035264?s=20 thread of about a dozen instances of Coby White just losing his handle himself. sometimes he does nice dribble moves and a lot of other times he just can't dribble the ball.
That combined w the same length as Garland but being like 3" taller, PG length. doesn't project well for him at all defensively |
He's a shooting Gaurd that would be best coming off a pick and roll or screen and taking a nice quick shot. He is also a speedster.
Perfect combo with ball |
agreed. he's also a solid spot up shooter, something we desperately need. |
This guy gets it |
He's better than solid as a spot up shooter. But his shooting off the bounce was underwhelming.
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Jesusdelonla wrote: | | a2j1m wrote: | LAkers get Blake GRiffin, Luke KEnnard, and pick 15
Pistons get pick 4 and pick 7
Bulls get Lonzo Ball
Draft Bol Bol
Sign Kyrie Irving
IRving - CAruso
Ingram - Kennard
James - Hart - Bonga
Griffin - Kuzma - Mo
McGee - Bol |
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Since people are posting random trade ideas.. what about this..
4th pick and Ingram to Pacers for Turner/Sabonis/18th pick |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | I don't get the love for old man Hunter! I would pick Rui over Hunter |
Rui will have the better NBA Career, IMHO.
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | Laker7 wrote: | | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | | Negative wingspan?! Dafuq?! |
Negative wingspan is when your wingspan is less that your height.
LINK |
That clears it up for any of us that though it was when your arms grow the wrong direction. |
😆 hilarious. But in all honesty there is a plethora of talent in this draft. Even beyond the physical metrics. If there was a metric for heart and determination, I’d like to know the terminology for it.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | https://twitter.com/HoopInDetail/status/1110271898129035264?s=20 thread of about a dozen instances of Coby White just losing his handle himself. sometimes he does nice dribble moves and a lot of other times he just can't dribble the ball.
That combined w the same length as Garland but being like 3" taller, PG length. doesn't project well for him at all defensively |
He's a shooting Gaurd that would be best coming off a pick and roll or screen and taking a nice quick shot. He is also a speedster.
Perfect combo with ball |
agreed. he's also a solid spot up shooter, something we desperately need. |
This guy gets it |
He's better than solid as a spot up shooter. But his shooting off the bounce was underwhelming. |
His ability to score at all 3 levels is very good. Not a true PG but we don't need that. We need an attack guard next to Lonzo and that's Coby White.
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