Waiting for a more complete team before filling in with a glue guy?
Well, he's a 22 year old junior... going to be 23 in September... was he held back in school and aren't most seniors younger than he is? I'd venture that he's benefitting right now from have a more developed physique than the others he's competing against. So let's just say I have doubts if if he can even be a glue guy for us. Anyway, after seeing your post, I went and looked at the mock drafts out there. NBADraft has him at #23-25. I'm pretty sure he won't be picked before #11, so if our FO wants him, he'll most likely still be available.
Other than Zion, most of the really young players expected to be drafted early are going to be projects in their first season.
1. Draft a really young prospect that might not contribute much during the next season.
2. Draft someone ready to play now
3. Trade out of the lottery
With the LeBron signing and one somewhat disappointing season in the history book, I am expecting a sense of urgency by the FO to make something happen.
Mike@LG wrote:
Redshirt transfer from Fresno State to Gonzaga. Held back by NCAA rules.
Okay, so I had some time and watched a couple more highlight/scouting videos... looks like I was wrong in being dismissive earlier (I was going off just the 1 video and it wasn't very flattering). Still think he needs a lot of work on the offensive front (he seems one dimensional there? sure seems to love that spin move in the paint, lol.)... but I like his energy, athleticism, quickness, and desire on the defensive end. So I see what you guys mean about him being a "glue guy" and/or a useful rotation player who could start helping out straight away. Since he also appears to be a willing runner, Lonzo would love that if he's still around.
Out of curiosity, what do you guys make of that French player, Sekou Doumbouya? I remember reading about him (at the start of the season) but haven't paid attention to anything draft-related since.
Anyway, I'm going to butt out of the discussion because I enjoy reading what you guys have to say about draft prospects. Carry on scouting!
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Just look at Montrez Harrell's impact in the playoffs.
I think Clarke can be that type of player. He's obviously not as jacked as Harrell is but teams would love to have that kind of player. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Just look at Montrez Harrell's impact in the playoffs.
I think Clarke can be that type of player. He's obviously not as jacked as Harrell is but teams would love to have that kind of player.
difference is really SF length and twitch vs Center length + strength + bigman twitch
Yes. Just saying the efficacy of doing things without the ball. I agree the length/twitch differences but I think they both have an incredible nose for the ball. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Just look at Montrez Harrell's impact in the playoffs.
I think Clarke can be that type of player. He's obviously not as jacked as Harrell is but teams would love to have that kind of player.
difference is really SF length and twitch vs Center length + strength + bigman twitch
Yes. Just saying the efficacy of doing things without the ball. I agree the length/twitch differences but I think they both have an incredible nose for the ball.
Yea.. I think a effort player would be really helpful. sparkplug. he's not perfect on either side of the ball but.. could be close soon on defense
Just look at Montrez Harrell's impact in the playoffs.
I think Clarke can be that type of player. He's obviously not as jacked as Harrell is but teams would love to have that kind of player.
difference is really SF length and twitch vs Center length + strength + bigman twitch
Yes. Just saying the efficacy of doing things without the ball. I agree the length/twitch differences but I think they both have an incredible nose for the ball.
Yea.. I think a effort player would be really helpful. sparkplug. he's not perfect on either side of the ball but.. could be close soon on defense
But they guard differently due to the strength/length difference. OTOH offensively Clarke should develop a more diverse game including an average 3pt shot.
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 12:27 pm Post subject:
Anyone have thoughts on Ty Jerome (UVA) or Carsen Edwards (Purdue)? I keep thinking Ball needs a good combo guard next to him to maximize his on and off-ball abilities.
Ideally, I'd like NAW in that role, but looking at other options, too.
Chuma Okeke
Cameron Johnson
Matisse Thybulle
Charles Matthews
Jon Teske
Miye Oni
Obi Toppin
Jon Konchar
Neemias Queta
Shamorie Ponds
Jalen McDaniels
Kerwin Roach
Juwan Morgan
Lindell Wiggington
Shamorie Ponds
Jaylen Nowell
Naz Reid
Not a fan of Teske. Just so-so on Matthews although I like his physical profile and athleticism. Just not sure on that jump shot. Some of these I have to look into.
I do like
Killian Tillie
Zack Norvell
Admiral Schofield
Ty Jerome
Robert Franks
Markus Howard
Anyone have thoughts on Ty Jerome (UVA) or Carsen Edwards (Purdue)? I keep thinking Ball needs a good combo guard next to him to maximize his on and off-ball abilities.
Ideally, I'd like NAW in that role, but looking at other options, too.
Anyone have thoughts on Ty Jerome (UVA) or Carsen Edwards (Purdue)? I keep thinking Ball needs a good combo guard next to him to maximize his on and off-ball abilities.
Ideally, I'd like NAW in that role, but looking at other options, too.
Jerome is a personal favorite although in previous comments his short wing span was cited as an issue. See pages 104 to 108 - there is discussion in relation to Jerome mixed in.
Edwards as I believe Mike -at- LG stated is a 2nd rounder which I also believe.
Out of curiosity, what do you guys make of that French player, Sekou Doumbouya?
I think he is the forgotten prospect. If he played in the US I believe he would be more hyped and potentially a top 5 prospect. Nice height, length and physical size combined with developing skills.
The other forgotten prospect is Kezie Okpala the clone of BI.
Late 1st/2nd I like Konchar over Jerome. Solid build, nba athlete, skills in a SF body. McDaniels and King are two other fringe 1sts I like.
Toppin, Mathews, Oni as late 2nds - I have ranked fringe 40
Out of curiosity, what do you guys make of that French player, Sekou Doumbouya?
I think he is the forgotten prospect. If he played in the US I believe he would be more hyped and potentially a top 5 prospect. Nice height, length and physical size combined with developing skills.
The other forgotten prospect is Kezie Okpala the clone of BI.
I hope our scouts/FO haven't forgotten. We got Bonga out of the blue, so I think/hope they'll look at this guy Sekou too. Here's a scouting report video I just watched. He's interesting for sure, seems suited for a Siakam type role, and still only 18 years old? The mock drafts have him at #17... so he could be available.
Also watched highlights of Okpala against UCLA after you mentioned it, another nice prospect for them to evaluate.
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:29 pm Post subject:
Who are some guys who might go undrafted that have a shot to make a team?
Have they put in a rule that if an underclassman goes undrafted, he can return to school? _________________ We pour this booze and we drink this booze because we think it's yummy. YUMMY! So over the tounge and down the throat to party in our tummys.
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Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 40345 Location: Dirty South
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2019 1:43 pm Post subject:
PartyMan wrote:
Have they put in a rule that if an underclassman goes undrafted, he can return to school?
as long as he used a NCAA certified agent, does not accept any unapproved benefits....and the way the rule is written, it is specific to players that are invited and attend the combine.
Late 1st/2nd I like Konchar over Jerome. Solid build, nba athlete, skills in a SF body. McDaniels and King are two other fringe 1sts I like.
Toppin, Mathews, Oni as late 2nds - I have ranked fringe 40
Have never watched a game by Konchar. I see the better athleticism but how is his feel for the game and can he be a combo guard? Appears more of a SG and he is also a redshirt Senior (23).
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