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Car54
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| Bard207 wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | The Lakers better not use the injured player exception on a center. Used the min and used the exception on Iggy when he’s brought out. |
How much salary will they be able to take in (use) with the DPE? |
50% of the players salary or the MLE for non tax payers
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| adkindo wrote: | | Nash Vegas wrote: | Woj:
Sources: Lakers planning individual workouts to evaluate centers Joakim Noah, Dwight Howard and Mo Speights this week in Los Angeles. Another consideration currently overseas: Marcin Gortat. Lakers want a window into physical condition and mindset of a potential addition. |
Gortat and Speights are washed, and a waste of time. A workout environment could favor Dwight over Noah since Noah can't jump over a phone book these days. |
I don't think Howard is a spring chicken either, with multiple back surgeries and injuries he's as stiff as they come. I favor just about anyone over Howard, Lakers should pay careful attention to what some GM's have expressed about Howard. |
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Bard207
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Car54 wrote: | | Bard207 wrote: | | Car54 wrote: | | The Lakers better not use the injured player exception on a center. Used the min and used the exception on Iggy when he’s brought out. |
How much salary will they be able to take in (use) with the DPE? |
50% of the players salary or the MLE for non tax payers |
50% of $3.5 million is in the area of the veteran minimum salary. |
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If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
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| laker50 wrote: | Noah has never won a NBA championship.
So he may be hungry to win one before he retires. |
Noah is worthless at this stage.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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| 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Right but all our options are pretty much washed up at this point. There is nobody out there that is better than the pack... pick your poison. |
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cheesehead88
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They need BOTH Faried and Noah
Faried will provide a true physical banger at the 4
Noah will provide length and rim protection at the 5
| 2019 wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Right but all our options are pretty much washed up at this point. There is nobody out there that is better than the pack... pick your poison. |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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| deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
No Dwight...LMAO! |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
No Dwight...LMAO! |
This makes it a good list. A very good list indeed  |
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The Juggernaut
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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| King Randle wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
No Dwight...LMAO! |
I wouldn't mind Dwight for vet min if he's 100% healthy and has actually changed his demeanor but I highly doubt it after reading more about his recent stints. |
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LAL1947
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
Ughhh, that list of options is so bleh. 
Perhaps, we might be better off passing on all of these and going with Marquesse Chriss instead... simply because he's younger and less likelier to break down mid-season. |
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| Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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| LAL1947 wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | deal wrote: | | 2019 wrote: | If Faried isn't getting considered, I'd take Noah.
Watching his highlights from last season, the guy can still play just well enough to make an impact in the areas we need him too. Still runs the floor hard, still has a that intensity when he plays, still makes serious defensive effort, and is good in the PnR |
Faried is an undersized PF that gets abused at C. The fact that he's a good
jumper will still fade against taller competition. Noah, has nothing left; he's most
likely an injury away from total retirement. Neither can score from outside.
I'd pass on both. |
Who would you take then? The options are super slim.
My rankings for current availability and fit are:
1. Joakim Noah
2. Marcin Gortat
3. Amir Johnson
4. Kenneth Faried
5. Mo Speights |
Ughhh, that list of options is so bleh.
Perhaps, we might be better off passing on all of these and going with Marquesse Chriss instead... simply because he's younger and less likelier to break down mid-season. |
No offense but thats probably an even worse idea than Dwight.
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I’m going to throw a name out there and a scenario that I’m probably going to get laughed out of here for. But anyways,... if I’m LA I’d give Hasheem thabeets agent a call. He’s apparently been playing well in China and has really matured. He no longer sees the game as a hobby but as a career and is still in terrific shape.
This situation reminds me of Hassan whiteside a few years ago. Plenty of talent at a young age, but not quite mature enough to take all that talent and make him an NBa player until he’s no longer in the league and has been humbled by the experience. Give the kid a workout. |
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[Just wow. One of the worst most inappropriate posts I've ever seen on LG. Enjoy your vacation. -CL]
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| Luminous8 wrote: | I’m going to throw a name out there and a scenario that I’m probably going to get laughed out of here for. But anyways,... if I’m LA I’d give Hasheem thabeets agent a call. He’s apparently been playing well in China and has really matured. He no longer sees the game as a hobby but as a career and is still in terrific shape.
This situation reminds me of Hassan whiteside a few years ago. Plenty of talent at a young age, but not quite mature enough to take all that talent and make him an NBa player until he’s no longer in the league and has been humbled by the experience. Give the kid a workout. |
Forgot all about him. For 15-20 minutes per game wouldn't hurt to give him a look see.
Applying your Hassan Whiteside analogy on a younger player how about Georgios Papagiannis? Not sure what his contract situation is with Panathinaikos but I still believe he has a place in the NBA.
A player maybe even farther out there than Thabeet is Larry Sanders. Only 30 years old and playing in the Big3. Made a short lived comeback a couple of years ago but seems to have stabilized his life. |
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Royce White slams LeBron James, Lakers: ‘Carmelo is absolutely being blackballed’
| Quote: | | Former NBA forward and Iowa State star Royce White believes that Carmelo Anthony is being “blackballed” from the NBA, and he slammed Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James this weekend for not doing anything about it. |
| Quote: | | “‘Melo is absolutely being blackballed,” White said, via Fanatics View. “He’s one of the realest in [the league] ... He’s given too much to the game for them not to allow him to play or for them to kind of culturally just make an agreement that he’s not good enough anymore. All of us here that played the game at the highest level know how good Melo is.” |
| Quote: | “We know that there’s no way that the Lakers would go out and sign Jared Dudley and not sign Carmelo Anthony,” White said. “And another question is, when a guy like LeBron is walking around out here like he’s the face and voice of the players, how is he letting his banana boat brother hang out there in the wings and then go sign Jared Dudley and not Carmelo.
“If anybody watching this thinks that Jared Dudley can hold Carmelo’s jock strap, I’ll slap you.” |
https://sports.yahoo.com/royce-white-carmelo-anthony-being-blackballed-los-angeles-lakers-nba-mental-health-045632800.html |
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| Is Kyle O'quinn available? I think he is the 3rd center on the 76'ers. I saw Kyle play a bunch of games for the Knicks 2-3 years ago. If the 76'ers cut him he would be a good pick up. |
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Bard207
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| delaluz wrote: | | Is Kyle O'quinn available? I think he is the 3rd center on the 76'ers. I saw Kyle play a bunch of games for the Knicks 2-3 years ago. If the 76'ers cut him he would be a good pick up. |
His salary appears to be the appropriate veteran minimum and they don't seem to have an excessive number of players that would force a large reduction in headcount.
I they are planing to do load management for Horford (age) and Embiid (health), then they might want to keep O'Quinn as a steady backup. |
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| Quote: | | Former NBA forward and Iowa State star Royce White believes that Carmelo Anthony is being “blackballed” from the NBA, and he slammed Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James this weekend for not doing anything about it. |
Blackballed for what? Sucking as a player? |
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| deal wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | Noah has never won a NBA championship.
So he may be hungry to win one before he retires. |
Noah is worthless at this stage. |
You must not have actually watched him on the Grizz. He was surprisingly spry and effective in 40+ games (once he was signed in December 2018). Was a solid rotation player for 17mpg, which is exactly what we need.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:49 am Post subject: |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | deal wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | Noah has never won a NBA championship.
So he may be hungry to win one before he retires. |
Noah is worthless at this stage. |
You must not have actually watched him on the Grizz. He was surprisingly spry and effective in 40+ games (once he was signed in December 2018). Was a solid rotation player for 17mpg, which is exactly what we need. |
I don't mind Noah, but I would take Dwight. More effective and durable the last 4 years.
Noah:
2016 29 games
2017 46 games
2018 7 games
2019 42 games
Dwight:
2016 71 games
2017 74 games
2018 81 games
2019 9 games
And if you watch recent videos of Dwight he's in great shape and jumping extremely high. Noah not so much. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | deal wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | Noah has never won a NBA championship.
So he may be hungry to win one before he retires. |
Noah is worthless at this stage. |
You must not have actually watched him on the Grizz. He was surprisingly spry and effective in 40+ games (once he was signed in December 2018). Was a solid rotation player for 17mpg, which is exactly what we need. |
I don't mind Noah, but I would take Dwight. More effective and durable the last 4 years.
Noah:
2016 29 games
2017 46 games
2018 7 games
2019 42 games
Dwight:
2016 71 games
2017 74 games
2018 81 games
2019 9 games
And if you watch recent videos of Dwight he's in great shape and jumping extremely high. Noah not so much. |
Noah has never been a leaper. And it's never been a question of that for me as Dwight is of course a more imposing athlete. It's what he does to locker rooms that concerns me.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | deal wrote: | | laker50 wrote: | Noah has never won a NBA championship.
So he may be hungry to win one before he retires. |
Noah is worthless at this stage. |
You must not have actually watched him on the Grizz. He was surprisingly spry and effective in 40+ games (once he was signed in December 2018). Was a solid rotation player for 17mpg, which is exactly what we need. |
I don't mind Noah, but I would take Dwight. More effective and durable the last 4 years.
Noah:
2016 29 games
2017 46 games
2018 7 games
2019 42 games
Dwight:
2016 71 games
2017 74 games
2018 81 games
2019 9 games
And if you watch recent videos of Dwight he's in great shape and jumping extremely high. Noah not so much. |
Noah has never been a leaper. And it's never been a question of that for me as Dwight is of course a more imposing athlete. It's what he does to locker rooms that concerns me. |
I get you...I think he's really been humbled (7 teams in 9 years). The end is nearing. He's been saying the right things..."I just want to contribute. Whatever a team wants me to do I'll do." etc. IMO I think the risk is worth the potential reward. |
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