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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:56 am    Post subject:

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Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject:

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Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Forgot to add, Lawrence Frank knows how to tamper behind closed doors. He's been attending every Raptors game, even in Toronto. And no one seems to be talking about it.
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Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Exactly. They did exactly what we did last year....open up for 2 max players. Their young talent is nothing to write home about.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:14 am    Post subject:

i dont understand where everyone thinks kawhi is going to the clippers. The clippers put out that scenario and everyone is following it. No one is kawhi camp or kawhi has said he is going to the clippers. Chris carter on first things first has said numerous times the lakers need to be patient and they could have kawhi.....so i am not a believer that a guy with that much talent will go to the B team in the city where he is not on the star franchise. Kawhi still wants to be seen and recognized....it wont happen on the clippers.
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Is PG13 the best player in the game?


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I was one of those who said good riddance to PG13 this past summer, didn't think he was worth the max.

Oops. Add that to the long list of things I've been completely wrong about.


even within his biggest supporters on LG, I never saw anyone project him to have a year like he has this season.


I was probably the most vocal against PG13. But you're right, people who wanted him we're completely satisfied with him AS IS. I always thought he had Kobe/T-Mac size and skills, but he just wasn't dominant and inefficient in two pt areas. This Kobe type season is freaking out of the blue, and since he's not a Laker, I hope it's a fluke season.
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lakers4life78 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Jeanie's net worth minus her stake in the Lakers is 20 million... or a little more than one year of what we paid to Deng

Steve Ballmer is worth 41 billion.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:23 am    Post subject:

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i dont understand where everyone thinks kawhi is going to the clippers. The clippers put out that scenario and everyone is following it. No one is kawhi camp or kawhi has said he is going to the clippers. Chris carter on first things first has said numerous times the lakers need to be patient and they could have kawhi.....so i am not a believer that a guy with that much talent will go to the B team in the city where he is not on the star franchise. Kawhi still wants to be seen and recognized....it wont happen on the clippers.


I've wondered the same thing. Talking heads call KL to LAC like it's a dun deal.

We have to load up with young talent, a top 3 player, and a max cap space and nobody's talk about anyone specific.

Despite his deep pockets the LAC owner is obnoxious at the games. No one will tell him to not act that way - because of who he i$. If Jeanie did that LG would have a field day. Doc is a decent coach but they've emptied the cupboard completely. End of season record will tell the whole story - They are tanking and everything is right with the world. IMO that's a sharp fall from a roster of Griffin, CP3, & DJ.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject:

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Ziggy wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


They're in LA, are hungry to win, and probably the biggest advantage they have over the Lakers is they don't come with the attention/expectations that the premiere teams do. They can be an "underdog" even when they are good and the media and their fans aren't going to freak out and scrutinize every single thing when they lose a game (like the Mets aren't criticized like the Yankees are). Plus there's the whole legacy/brand thing. Being the first guy to win the franchise a title is huge, especially in a big market. Nick Foles will always be a legend in Philadelphia because of this.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject:

if you want to pencil in PG13 on the roster then you might as well pencil off BI and Ball too as that is what it would take to get him
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:34 am    Post subject:

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if you want to pencil in PG13 on the roster then you might as well pencil off BI and Ball too as that is what it would take to get him


Or we could have rolled out the red carpet for him instead of LBJ... and gotten a different result.

At the time... it was the right decision knowing what we knew then... but considering what LBJ's done to team morale... his inability to land, or to try to land someone other than AD... we should have thrown ourselves at PGs feet.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:43 am    Post subject:

PG didn't want to come here. He made up his decision long before the season ended and it had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers. He was comfortable playing in OKC and playing with his bro RW.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject:

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PG didn't want to come here. He made up his decision long before the season ended and it had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers. He was comfortable playing in OKC and playing with his bro RW.


Tween schoolgirls have fallen in love in less time than PG fell for Russ.

I'm not saying he doesn't genuinely like the guy... but I feel like there's more to the story.

My theory is that we either spurned PG first thinking we had better options coming... or simply lost him through apathy or neglect.

But no one knows...

We'll find out in ten years the real story when PG retires.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject:

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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


Lebron james is not the GOAT! and will never be. That a bunch of writers who only look at stats. You see lebron, is he good this year.....no. He is a laker and i will root for him but come on. All of see that he is not as great as the hype is. we saw magic and kobe first hand....and this guy does not come close. I know he is at the end of his career but the hype of espn has always been greater than the talent. Still love him as a laker!!!


no matter what me and you think, I expect by the time he retires, the majority narrative will be he is the GOAT....and that narrative will likely last for a couple decades. Each day that passes, less and less people with opinions saw Kareem, Jordan or whoever you think is the GOAT play.

There is only one GOAT... MJ.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGgnEIX5f4E&t=306s

Then there's the lil GOAT... Kobe. And now we have the faux-GOAT... Lebron.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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PG didn't want to come here. He made up his decision long before the season ended and it had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers. He was comfortable playing in OKC and playing with his bro RW.


Speculation.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject:

Paul George didn't gave Magic (bleep) Johnson a meeting.
He never wanted to be here.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:09 pm    Post subject:

I was one of the biggest PG13 advocates on LG and even I didn’t imagine the season he’s having.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:15 pm    Post subject:

Sentient Meat wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Jeanie's net worth minus her stake in the Lakers is 20 million... or a little more than one year of what we paid to Deng

Steve Ballmer is worth 41 billion.


What does that mean?
Jeanie's net worth MINUS her Laker value?
Why bring up her worth MINUS her biggest asset?
What is Ballmer's net worth MINUS Microsoft?
Zucks worth MINUS FB?
Why does that even matter?
Why even say something like that?
Paul Allen was the wealthiest NBA owner for many years, but he never won a championship.
Steelers and Patriots have the most super bowls, are they also the wealthiest owners? Not even close.
Stick to your constant droning about things that actually matter, please, rather than making up stuff that doesn't.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:22 pm    Post subject:

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PG didn't want to come here. He made up his decision long before the season ended and it had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers. He was comfortable playing in OKC and playing with his bro RW.


Speculation.


Actually 32 is correct. PG not coming had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers, since PG made his decision long before LBJ joined the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:23 pm    Post subject:

Robster8989 wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Jeanie's net worth minus her stake in the Lakers is 20 million... or a little more than one year of what we paid to Deng

Steve Ballmer is worth 41 billion.


What does that mean?
Jeanie's net worth MINUS her Laker value?
Why bring up her worth MINUS her biggest asset?
What is Ballmer's net worth MINUS Microsoft?
Zucks worth MINUS FB?
Why does that even matter?
Why even say something like that?
Paul Allen was the wealthiest NBA owner for many years, but he never won a championship.
Steelers and Patriots have the most super bowls, are they also the wealthiest owners? Not even close.
Stick to your constant droning about things that actually matter, please, rather than making up stuff that doesn't.


Not only that but the Lakers are worth twice as much as the Clippers. They have a TV deal the Clippers can only dream about. The Lakers bring in twice the money the Clippers do. Just like that billionaire Russian dude that owned the Nets...how did that go for him? Gimme a break with all this nonsense Clipper talk.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject:

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I was one of the biggest PG13 advocates on LG and even I didn’t imagine the season he’s having.


He is averaging 36 ppg over the last 12 with an 11-1 record.
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King Randle wrote:
Robster8989 wrote:
Sentient Meat wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Ziggy wrote:
lakers4life78 wrote:
Can someone explain to me what makes the Clippers attractive? Our young players take criticism, non of their young guys are all star talents. All serviceable and decent prospects, but media wants to make these guys out to be stars.

Also, their future first round treasure trove of picks will be a protected late first from Philly and the Miami pick, which is yet to be determined where it will land.


Billionaire owner, Jerry West, new arena, lots of cap space, Los Angeles, scrappy young team, a coach player's like, no drama.


There arena is 5 years out. All owners are wealthy. Jerry West is 80. They'll always be second fiddle. Sorry, it's like the Mets/Yankees, Mets will always be second fiddle franchise.

Clippers have come up a lot, don't get me wrong, just roster construction wise it's not like they have Embiid/Simmons. SGA is literally their best young player yet I just read an article on SI.com touting their treasure trove of talent and picks. Uh, what? But the Laker players all stink?


Jeanie's net worth minus her stake in the Lakers is 20 million... or a little more than one year of what we paid to Deng

Steve Ballmer is worth 41 billion.


What does that mean?
Jeanie's net worth MINUS her Laker value?
Why bring up her worth MINUS her biggest asset?
What is Ballmer's net worth MINUS Microsoft?
Zucks worth MINUS FB?
Why does that even matter?
Why even say something like that?
Paul Allen was the wealthiest NBA owner for many years, but he never won a championship.
Steelers and Patriots have the most super bowls, are they also the wealthiest owners? Not even close.
Stick to your constant droning about things that actually matter, please, rather than making up stuff that doesn't.


Not only that but the Lakers are worth twice as much as the Clippers. They have a TV deal the Clippers can only dream about. The Lakers bring in twice the money the Clippers do. Just like that billionaire Russian dude that owned the Nets...how did that go for him? Gimme a break with all this nonsense Clipper talk.


Clippers have a $35M operating income to the Lakers $136M.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbespr/2018/02/07/forbes-releases-20th-annual-nba-team-valuations/#2a7b1dab34e6
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How would you guys feel about Kemba Walker signing with us at the end of the season? Just curious.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:43 pm    Post subject:

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if you want to pencil in PG13 on the roster then you might as well pencil off BI and Ball too as that is what it would take to get him

This.

Also, I couldn't care less about PG from a Lakers perspective. He is having a really good moment... but even with what he's doing, I have OKC behind GSW/Philly, Raptors, Bucks and the Rockets in terms of winning the whole thing. It's his loss for CHOOSING to not come here, AFAIC.


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PG didn't want to come here. He made up his decision long before the season ended and it had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers. He was comfortable playing in OKC and playing with his bro RW.


Speculation.


Actually 32 is correct. PG not coming had nothing to do with LBJ joining the Lakers, since PG made his decision long before LBJ joined the Lakers.


That's the timeline of the signings. But we don't know how much our season-long courtship of Lebron influenced his thinking. It was an open secret Lebron was coming here to many in the NBA before he officially signed.
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How would you guys feel about Kemba Walker signing with us at the end of the season? Just curious.


Thats a fail adding Kemba won't win championships
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