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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:32 am    Post subject:

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I assume the 3rd player you’re referring to is Danny Green. That is a pretty good set of players to build from but you’re right, they will need some other guys to step up big time if we’re gonna find the consistency necessary to take home the trophy this season.

Yes, Green is easily the third best player on the team.



My view is we have Lebron and AD and then everyone else. We don't have a "big three" or anything like that. Right now, arbitrarily picking Green or Kuz or whoever as the #3 guy is pretty meaningless. All we need is for the team to come together and do their jobs to support Lebron/AD.

Right, Green is a role-player, he's not part of a "big three" or anything. But he's the only significant net positive player on the roster outside of Lebron and AD (and an injured Cousins).
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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).
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Lakers completed workouts and meetings with Dwight Howard and Joakim Noah on Thursday and have Mo Speights at the team’s facility today, league sources tell ESPN. Both Howard and Noah left impressions that they could be helpful to the team.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:35 am    Post subject:

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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward
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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward

Agreed, and in Kuz's favor is that Green is almost 10 years older and wasn't even in the NBA at Kuz's age.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:44 am    Post subject:

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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward

Agreed, and in Kuz's favor is that Green is almost 10 years older and wasn't even in the NBA at Kuz's age.


didn't know that.
also the age makes me think he might need load management. we are the managerialist of teams

....GIVE ME BRUNO!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:50 am    Post subject:

Net positive players on the roster (healthy):

Lebron
AD
Green

Potential small net positive players on the roster:

McGee
Caruso
Dudley

Likely small net negative players on the roster:

Kuzma
KCP

Likely net negative players on the roster:

Bradley
Cook
Daniels
Rondo
THT


So my 9-man rotation is the top eight players on this list and whoever is better on any given night between Bradley and Cook. Noah and Iguodala would both easily fall into the small net positive category.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject:

I wish THT was good already. like if he was year 3 THT, after some mentoring from MWP defensively. I'd be interested in him matching up against one of the Clipper wings. After seeing clips of Bradley giving George problems, at 6'2 and not long.. THT with SF length and 6'4... maybe he could do solidly on George
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:02 am    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Net positive players on the roster (healthy):

Lebron
AD
Green

Potential small net positive players on the roster:

McGee
Caruso
Dudley

Likely small net negative players on the roster:

Kuzma
KCP

Likely net negative players on the roster:

Bradley
Cook
Daniels
Rondo
THT


So my 9-man rotation is the top eight players on this list and whoever is better on any given night between Bradley and Cook. Noah and Iguodala would both easily fall into the small net positive category.

I'd start KCP/Green/Lebron/AD/McGee with Friar Tuck/Bradley/Kuzma/Dudley/(hopefully) Noah as my second unit and close games with Caruso/Green/Lebron/Kuz or Dudley/AD.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:04 am    Post subject:

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I wish THT was good already. like if he was year 3 THT, after some mentoring from MWP defensively. I'd be interested in him matching up against one of the Clipper wings. After seeing clips of Bradley giving George problems, at 6'2 and not long.. THT with SF length and 6'4... maybe he could do solidly on George

Same, but hopefully we'll get to see THT doing his Ron Artest impression in a few years alongside AD and Giannis.
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward

Agreed, and in Kuz's favor is that Green is almost 10 years older and wasn't even in the NBA at Kuz's age.


didn't know that.
also the age makes me think he might need load management. we are the managerialist of teams

....GIVE ME BRUNO!

Danny Green's career trajectory is why I still have my eyes on JP Tokoto.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:10 am    Post subject:

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I wish THT was good already. like if he was year 3 THT, after some mentoring from MWP defensively. I'd be interested in him matching up against one of the Clipper wings. After seeing clips of Bradley giving George problems, at 6'2 and not long.. THT with SF length and 6'4... maybe he could do solidly on George

Same, but hopefully we'll get to see THT doing his Ron Artest impression in a few years alongside AD and Giannis.


Damn, what a thought
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward

Agreed, and in Kuz's favor is that Green is almost 10 years older and wasn't even in the NBA at Kuz's age.


didn't know that.
also the age makes me think he might need load management. we are the managerialist of teams

....GIVE ME BRUNO!

Danny Green's career trajectory is why I still have my eyes on JP Tokoto.


yea he was a cool lil draft sleeper back when
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:19 am    Post subject:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2609139-its-time-for-los-angeles-lakers-to-give-tarik-black-a-shot-at-center.amp.html
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:22 am    Post subject:

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2609139-its-time-for-los-angeles-lakers-to-give-tarik-black-a-shot-at-center.amp.html


Good idea.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:52 am    Post subject:

McGee (20) | Noah (12) | Davis (16)
Davis (16) | Kuzma (32)

That's how I see the rotations going with Noah
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:53 am    Post subject:

I see Jav at 22-23, Noah at 14-15.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject:

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cheesehead88 wrote:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2609139-its-time-for-los-angeles-lakers-to-give-tarik-black-a-shot-at-center.amp.html


Good idea.



2016 article?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:35 am    Post subject:

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2609139-its-time-for-los-angeles-lakers-to-give-tarik-black-a-shot-at-center.amp.html


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:39 am    Post subject:

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2609139-its-time-for-los-angeles-lakers-to-give-tarik-black-a-shot-at-center.amp.html


Not a big enough name


Corrected for you
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:39 am    Post subject:

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I see Jav at 22-23, Noah at 14-15.


You think they can both hold up playing so much?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:45 am    Post subject:

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I see Jav at 22-23, Noah at 14-15.


You think they can both hold up playing so much?


Jav played 22mpg last year.

Noah played 16.5mpg last year.

That means AD can play small ball center for about 8 minutes per game (4 mpg at the end of each half).
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:47 am    Post subject:

If you want 3pt shooting and winning experience you go with Mo Speights

If you want fit and intangibles + passing you go with Noah

If you want a star name who can potentially make a big Impact if he’s ready to help then you go with Dwight...

All 3 options gives us a new dimension and value either way whoever we get is gonna help us so don’t get upset if we don’t get 1 or the other.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:51 am    Post subject:

KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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I think Kuz will be the 3rd best player for us. just optimistic about his shooting and defense

Right, you're not an RPM guy.


rpm for me stands for - hit 37%, average 17, and play average defense... and you have a better rpm than Danneh Green

Even if your team is magically worse with you on the floor than when Danny Green is on the floor (when adjusted for competition).


well as tangibly as that's put the goal is for that not to happen, going forward

Agreed, and in Kuz's favor is that Green is almost 10 years older and wasn't even in the NBA at Kuz's age.


didn't know that.
also the age makes me think he might need load management. we are the managerialist of teams

....GIVE ME BRUNO!


You didn't know it because it's a random and false statement. We just didn't hear about him because, unlike Kuz, Green didn't get any minutes until Pop got a hold of him. But they were both 22 yr old rookies with birth dates in June and July. By his 3rd year, the over 40% three pt shooting guy started to emerge.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2019 9:55 am    Post subject:

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I see Jav at 22-23, Noah at 14-15.


You think they can both hold up playing so much?


Jav played 22mpg last year.

Noah played 16.5mpg last year.

That means AD can play small ball center for about 8 minutes per game (4 mpg at the end of each half).


Noah played 16.5 mpg for half a season. And I am too lazy to look but I think we only get around a half season from McGee as well.
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