Reminder that the wizards new GM told Woj that getting rid of Howard was the quickest move he has done in his life.
Yep, I get it. I think what changes here is that Lebron and AD will have his ear and a say. Wizards were/are in disarray. Not defending the thought of Dwight here but it is a different set of circumstances.
Like Melo, I don’t think Howard has ever been able to understand being a role player in the NBA and do what is asked...
Found this on twitter
Quote:
Dwight Howard got
- MDA fired, Lakers
- Kevin McHale fired, Rockets
- Mike Bud lost his GM job, Hawks
- Rich Cho fired, Clifford left, Hornets
- Ernie Grunfeld fired, Wizards
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
Agree and disagree. I do believe in redemption.
I do too but Howard’s chances at self-awareness and redemption ran out about three teams ago.
Howard is who he is. Anyone believing that we would be getting anything else is fooling themselves.
Maybe and I prefer Faried but I also understand wanting another defensive 7 footer versus an undersized big who will get eaten up by Embiid if we make it to June.
I'm looking at Dwight tape from last year and it looks like Mcgee is better...
https://stats.nba.com/player/2730/traditional/ the blue highlighted stats play video from last year, all those possessions. He strolls around on offense. First game against OKC he shows skill, but beyond that.. he looks like a super shell of himself.
I'll look at his blocks too
We looking for McGee's back up I guess
That would be my guess too. Just some extra man power at C. It
makes me wonder if I'd match AD with Howard and have McGee
with Kuz; simply because McGee and AD are better defensively. Then
Close games with McGee and AD...
We'll see.
McGee is probably better. But I would’ve started McGee over Boogie anyways cuz I would’ve run the offense through Boogie and Kuz on the second unit. The. Whoever is playing best, Boogie or Kuz closes the game
Shams Charania: The Lakers are expected to request permission soon to speak to Dwight Howard and there’s mutual interest between the eight-time All-Star and L.A. in wake of DeMarcus Cousins’ torn ACL, league sources tell @The Athletic @Stadium. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
What will we have to give to Memphis? _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 10:06 am Post subject:
anth2000 wrote:
RI Laker wrote:
I would sign DH. Either way its a win. If he plays well it understands his role it would be great. It also keeps the other team from getting him and potentially filling their biggest weakness. If he sucks, we as a fan base (and an organization as well) can embarrass him and pay him back for being the knucklehead that he was (is).
Agree 100%. I am ok with a player redeeming himself. Maybe, like Boogie, he has something to prove. I doubt he would consider coming back if he was worried about fan reaction. It could be what he wants to finish his career.
Like Boogie he is damaged goods _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Shams Charania: The Lakers are expected to request permission soon to speak to Dwight Howard and there’s mutual interest between the eight-time All-Star and L.A. in wake of DeMarcus Cousins’ torn ACL, league sources tell @The Athletic @Stadium. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
Shams Charania: The Lakers are expected to request permission soon to speak to Dwight Howard and there’s mutual interest between the eight-time All-Star and L.A. in wake of DeMarcus Cousins’ torn ACL, league sources tell @The Athletic @Stadium. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
What will we have to give to Memphis?
true, Memphis can play hardball now... trade Boogie for Dwight
Shams Charania: The Lakers are expected to request permission soon to speak to Dwight Howard and there’s mutual interest between the eight-time All-Star and L.A. in wake of DeMarcus Cousins’ torn ACL, league sources tell @The Athletic @Stadium. – via Twitter ShamsCharania
What will we have to give to Memphis?
I don't think we'd be able to come up with matching salaries before Dec. 15.
So most likely, the only way this happens is if Memphis sees no one will trade for Dwight and he's too much bother to keep around so they buy him out.
I would sign DH. Either way its a win. If he plays well it understands his role it would be great. It also keeps the other team from getting him and potentially filling their biggest weakness. If he sucks, we as a fan base (and an organization as well) can embarrass him and pay him back for being the knucklehead that he was (is).
Agree 100%. I am ok with a player redeeming himself. Maybe, like Boogie, he has something to prove. I doubt he would consider coming back if he was worried about fan reaction. It could be what he wants to finish his career.
Like Boogie he is damaged goods
Any center who is available at this point is damaged goods.
All the candidates have injury histories, personality issues, are old, are really power forwards, or otherwise have some concerning issue..
There isn't a no-brainer choice. It's just which roll of the dice you favor.
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
I understand your perspective.
Basically, you favor reducing potential risk at the cost of reducing potential upside.
Personally, I'd take on the risk to try to get the upside.
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
I understand your perspective.
Basically, you favor reducing potential risk at the cost of reducing potential upside.
Personally, I'd take on the risk to try to get the upside.
Team Killers tend to kill teams. It’s in the name Lol 😉
Reminder that the wizards new GM told Woj that getting rid of Howard was the quickest move he has done in his life.
Yep, I get it. I think what changes here is that Lebron and AD will have his ear and a say. Wizards were/are in disarray. Not defending the thought of Dwight here but it is a different set of circumstances.
Like Melo, I don’t think Howard has ever been able to understand being a role player in the NBA and do what is asked...
Found this on twitter
Quote:
Dwight Howard got
- MDA fired, Lakers
- Kevin McHale fired, Rockets
- Mike Bud lost his GM job, Hawks
- Rich Cho fired, Clifford left, Hornets
- Ernie Grunfeld fired, Wizards
Edit: imo he isn’t the only reason for people getting fired, but trouble follows Dwight. We can’t afford any issues tbh.
You are probably right.
Howards history is long with trouble and discord.
Howard may have a history of trouble and discord; but in his defense, that list of destruction is quite impressive. Good riddance; I'm not particularly fond of anyone on the list.
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
I understand your perspective.
Basically, you favor reducing potential risk at the cost of reducing potential upside.
Personally, I'd take on the risk to try to get the upside.
You’re 100% right...because you think logically and he can help us defensively. 20-24 minutes a game. People need to let go of the past. Geez.
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
I understand your perspective.
Basically, you favor reducing potential risk at the cost of reducing potential upside.
Personally, I'd take on the risk to try to get the upside.
You’re 100% right...because you think logically and he can help us defensively. 20-24 minutes a game. People need to let go of the past. Geez.
that's the fun part. I'm all for bringing him in and seeing if he's willing to play the right way. His past says no though. Everywhere he goes he talks a good game and then reverts back to pouting and playing the blame game. It's pretty brutal when you have situations like in Atlanta where his teammates celebrated when they got rid of him. That was in 2017. The next year Dwight goes to Charlotte and washes out there as well.
I would sign DH. Either way its a win. If he plays well it understands his role it would be great. It also keeps the other team from getting him and potentially filling their biggest weakness. If he sucks, we as a fan base (and an organization as well) can embarrass him and pay him back for being the knucklehead that he was (is).
Agree 100%. I am ok with a player redeeming himself. Maybe, like Boogie, he has something to prove. I doubt he would consider coming back if he was worried about fan reaction. It could be what he wants to finish his career.
Like Boogie he is damaged goods
Any center who is available at this point is damaged goods.
All the candidates have injury histories, personality issues, are old, are really power forwards, or otherwise have some concerning issue..
There isn't a no-brainer choice. It's just which roll of the dice you favor.
Exactly. The selection is limited when dumpster diving.
Why do so many keep going down the same path and expect a different destination?
Howard is a knucklehead! He has not understood his role or had self awareness for a decade. But now he suddenly sees the light?
And some suggestions of “just cut him if he acts the fool again”. Where does that leave the team in the midst of a competitive season? Without a legitimate back up center, trying to repair any chemistry issues he created and looking to find a replacement midseason.
Do not waste the the time on Howard. Even if they chose a center “not as good” but can consistently fit the role and be there for the team it is a much better option.
Desperation causes people to make really bad decisions. This would be another IMO.
I understand your perspective.
Basically, you favor reducing potential risk at the cost of reducing potential upside.
Personally, I'd take on the risk to try to get the upside.
You’re 100% right...because you think logically and he can help us defensively. 20-24 minutes a game. People need to let go of the past. Geez.
that's the fun part. I'm all for bringing him in and seeing if he's willing to play the right way. His past says no though. Everywhere he goes he talks a good game and then reverts back to pouting and playing the blame game. It's pretty brutal when you have situations like in Atlanta where his teammates celebrated when they got rid of him. That was in 2017. The next year Dwight goes to Charlotte and washes out there as well.
For real. It’s like dating a f***ing Kardashian (which he very might well do this time).
At some point u gotta be real about who it is your getting in bed with
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Posted: Sun Aug 18, 2019 12:12 pm Post subject:
laker50 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
anth2000 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
This Dwight Howard thing is a ticking time bomb.
Reminder that the wizards new GM told Woj that getting rid of Howard was the quickest move he has done in his life.
Yep, I get it. I think what changes here is that Lebron and AD will have his ear and a say. Wizards were/are in disarray. Not defending the thought of Dwight here but it is a different set of circumstances.
Like Melo, I don’t think Howard has ever been able to understand being a role player in the NBA and do what is asked...
Found this on twitter
Quote:
Dwight Howard got
- MDA fired, Lakers
- Kevin McHale fired, Rockets
- Mike Bud lost his GM job, Hawks
- Rich Cho fired, Clifford left, Hornets
- Ernie Grunfeld fired, Wizards
Edit: imo he isn’t the only reason for people getting fired, but trouble follows Dwight. We can’t afford any issues tbh.
You are probably right.
Howards history is long with trouble and discord.
Honestly, I think those days are gone. Why would we care if he acts up? You just cut him. He got away with some of those things because he was Superman in his prime. I think him coming out saying his ego is dead was the truth. Unless he's not too bright, he should know this is his last chance. The Wizards GM said trading him was the fasting thing he did. That must have hurt. This guy would be one of the dumbest people in history if he's nothing short of a model citizen here.
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