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epak Retired Number
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The Lakers gonna get Vince a ring fo sho. |
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BlackStarMamba Star Player
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danzag wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
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LOL
How about
Garnett and Allen
LeBron, Bosh and Allen
Shaq, Fox, Horry, Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Artest
THOSE are the players winning championships. I liked NVE and Eddie Jones, but who cares if we're winning? |
the point is that Wade (homegrown talent), Paul Pierce (homegrown), Kobe (homegrown) All major pieces is not 1a/1b on those teams, the others were nice. But you cant tell me it wont feel weird having a championship where ALL pieces are all transplanted.
I guess that embodies Los Angeles now to us. Most people are transplanted, bandwagon-ed nowadays _________________ I got Nothing interesting to put here |
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epak Retired Number
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HAWAIIGUY27 wrote: | epak wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Player 1: 20.0/7.9/2.9 soon 27, wants 20-25m per year
Player 2: 18.7/5.5/2.5 soon 24, earns 2m for next 2 years
who you want |
I'm still surprised BI put up 18/5/3 last year.
The season was so disappointing as a whole, that this gets lost in the shuffle.
Who's the 20/8/3 guy? |
Spoiler Alert: It's Tobias Harris and Kyle Kuzma |
Ah it is Tobias. Thanks.
Yea, I'd rather keep the lower cost guy.
Ah, and it is Kuzma and not BI.
Man, the Lakers had 2 guys getting ~18/5/3 last year. That's crazy. |
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BlackStarMamba Star Player
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screwhead728 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. |
Shaq coming to LA was a "manufactured" championship. We are the Lakers. Also traded Pau Gasol, championship. I think the love for the young kids have us blind at times. Some of us keep forgetting, we got LEBRON JAMES. Can't wait to develop young players. We haven't been relevant in YEARSSS. |
come on
Devean George, Kobe, Fisher were big parts of those teams. it wasn't Shaq and a bunch of ring chasing transplants. _________________ I got Nothing interesting to put here |
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Inspector Gadget Retired Number
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epak wrote: | The Lakers gonna get Vince a ring fo sho. |
That would be cool. VC deserves a championship ring and it’s unfortunate he’s been signing with rebuilding teams the last few years and hasn’t been inclined to join a win now team. |
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BlackStarMamba wrote: | danzag wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
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LOL
How about
Garnett and Allen
LeBron, Bosh and Allen
Shaq, Fox, Horry, Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Artest
THOSE are the players winning championships. I liked NVE and Eddie Jones, but who cares if we're winning? |
the point is that Wade (homegrown talent), Paul Pierce (homegrown), Kobe (homegrown) All major pieces is not 1a/1b on those teams, the others were nice. But you cant tell me it wont feel weird having a championship where ALL pieces are all transplanted.
I guess that embodies Los Angeles now to us. Most people are transplanted, bandwagon-ed nowadays |
Do you think Lonzo/BI are Kobe/Wade level talents? _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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HAWAIIGUY27 Star Player
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epak wrote: | HAWAIIGUY27 wrote: | epak wrote: | Jesusdelonla wrote: | Player 1: 20.0/7.9/2.9 soon 27, wants 20-25m per year
Player 2: 18.7/5.5/2.5 soon 24, earns 2m for next 2 years
who you want |
I'm still surprised BI put up 18/5/3 last year.
The season was so disappointing as a whole, that this gets lost in the shuffle.
Who's the 20/8/3 guy? |
Spoiler Alert: It's Tobias Harris and Kyle Kuzma |
Ah it is Tobias. Thanks.
Yea, I'd rather keep the lower cost guy.
Ah, and it is Kuzma and not BI.
Man, the Lakers had 2 guys getting ~18/5/3 last year. That's crazy. |
Even crazier is that BI's only 21. So theoretically, he's still at least 6 years away from reaching his peak. |
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BlackStarMamba Star Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. |
I'll gladly take a championship from LBJ/AD/3rd star. |
lol..different viewpoint. So does it matter the players or just the team on the Jersey. All championships mean the same? |
Team for me.
If I felt that Lonzo/BI could be foundational stars like Kobe/Magic, sure, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep them. But they aren't. So, by whatever means necessary.
Say we get AD and win a ring, he's only 26 right now. Plenty of time to grow old as a Laker. LBJ brings more baggage b/c of his GOAT discussion (and competition with Kobe). But AD has a chance to be the face of this team for a good amount of time. |
we make those final determinations 4-5 years into someone career and its mostly based on success. BI is entering 4, and Zo is entering 2. And Kuz is entering 2. Kobe was air balling threes in his first year.
1st 3 seasons of Kobe Shaq era they didn't win a championship.
ZO/BI has been with Bron 1 season and we are already throwing in the towel, despite knowing the season was riddled with injuries and we didn't have a championship level coach. _________________ I got Nothing interesting to put here |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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LakersChamps04 wrote: | What's with people's love for Tobias Harris? Dudes a glorified role player. Yall trying to pay him 20+ mil? |
He can be an almost 50-40-90 shooter in a shooters league
Offensively he is the perfect #3 option... spaces the floor and can average 20ppg while at the same time has no problems deferring to other players which is essential if you are rolling with a big 3 core. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi |
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D-Shiznit Star Player
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Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
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WHOA WHOA |
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jb2 Franchise Player
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BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. |
I'll gladly take a championship from LBJ/AD/3rd star. |
lol..different viewpoint. So does it matter the players or just the team on the Jersey. All championships mean the same? |
Team for me.
If I felt that Lonzo/BI could be foundational stars like Kobe/Magic, sure, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep them. But they aren't. So, by whatever means necessary.
Say we get AD and win a ring, he's only 26 right now. Plenty of time to grow old as a Laker. LBJ brings more baggage b/c of his GOAT discussion (and competition with Kobe). But AD has a chance to be the face of this team for a good amount of time. |
we make those final determinations 4-5 years into someone career and its mostly based on success. BI is entering 4, and Zo is entering 2. And Kuz is entering 2. Kobe was air balling threes in his first year.
1st 3 seasons of Kobe Shaq era they didn't win a championship.
ZO/BI has been with Bron 1 season and we are already throwing in the towel, despite knowing the season was riddled with injuries and we didn't have a championship level coach. |
Fair points about giving them time but to quote Shaq, "any dummy can see the future is now"
In your comparison to the Celtics have having home grown talent along with the stars, you have to remember that we had DLO, Randle, Nance, and JC. We gave them away to make the cap space for the 2nd star but then the wheels fell off the wagon due to injury and instability.
So while I wish we could have added the 2nd star to this current group, it's looking highly unlikely. If we have to move 3/4 of our top 3 assets to get AD and then still have money to put quality depth or even another star around them, we have to go for it.
AD can spend the next decade as a the Laker great and once LeBron comes off the books, if the cap is managed properly, we'll again have space to re-build quickly with max money around AD.
It's not like we're trading for a 33 year old guy who's a 2 year window here. He's a generational talent who's begging to be in LA. |
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D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
Please have this be a trade agreed to in principal that will be executed after we sign a max star. |
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danzag Franchise Player
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D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
LETS GET IT DONE |
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BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. | this kind of reasoning is so dumb. Im sorry man. But seriously. we haven't been in the playoffs in 6 straight years and you're over here talking about wanting an organic championship? all the lakers have ever done is ACQUIRE talent. whether through trade (kareem, kobe) or free agency (shaq, lebron). we are in no position to be choosing how we want to win a championship. i dont care how its done, i want to experience another championship |
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Joel Meyers said AD will get traded to Boston _________________ Coach Vogel, Kidd, Hollins
Max slot : Kawhi |
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BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. |
I'll gladly take a championship from LBJ/AD/3rd star. |
lol..different viewpoint. So does it matter the players or just the team on the Jersey. All championships mean the same? |
Team for me.
If I felt that Lonzo/BI could be foundational stars like Kobe/Magic, sure, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep them. But they aren't. So, by whatever means necessary.
Say we get AD and win a ring, he's only 26 right now. Plenty of time to grow old as a Laker. LBJ brings more baggage b/c of his GOAT discussion (and competition with Kobe). But AD has a chance to be the face of this team for a good amount of time. |
we make those final determinations 4-5 years into someone career and its mostly based on success. BI is entering 4, and Zo is entering 2. And Kuz is entering 2. Kobe was air balling threes in his first year.
1st 3 seasons of Kobe Shaq era they didn't win a championship.
ZO/BI has been with Bron 1 season and we are already throwing in the towel, despite knowing the season was riddled with injuries and we didn't have a championship level coach. |
So you will pass on all NBA talent to wait indefinitely for home grown talent to maybe rise to Kobe/Wade levels? I wouldn't. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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BlackStarMamba Star Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | danzag wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
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LOL
How about
Garnett and Allen
LeBron, Bosh and Allen
Shaq, Fox, Horry, Gasol, Odom, Ariza, Artest
THOSE are the players winning championships. I liked NVE and Eddie Jones, but who cares if we're winning? |
the point is that Wade (homegrown talent), Paul Pierce (homegrown), Kobe (homegrown) All major pieces is not 1a/1b on those teams, the others were nice. But you cant tell me it wont feel weird having a championship where ALL pieces are all transplanted.
I guess that embodies Los Angeles now to us. Most people are transplanted, bandwagon-ed nowadays |
Do you think Lonzo/BI are Kobe/Wade level talents? |
being former #2 draft picks, their expectations are high.
Victor Oladipo is being compared to Dwade now.
If Oladipo played with Lebron and won 2-3 championships he would be getting hall of fame like appreciation, similar to Kyrie. If a player doesn't have success, their appreciation diminishes ala Carmelo Anthony.
The point Im making is, we judge players on production and success. Its too soon to say they they are trash and way too soon to even make an assumption of hall of fame potential.
I'm saying that no team has transplanted ALL important players to win a championship it will take the luster out of it. _________________ I got Nothing interesting to put here |
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D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
You had me at "Reddit Insider." _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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danzag wrote: | D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
LETS GET IT DONE |
This sounds plausible but these days these "insiders" go through great lengths to dupe people lol |
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Ok... Lakernation no matter what. Preparing for the worst, hoping for the best. _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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Quote: | being former #2 draft picks, their expectations are high.
Victor Oladipo is being compared to Dwade now.
If Oladipo played with Lebron and won 2-3 championships he would be getting hall of fame like appreciation, similar to Kyrie. If a player doesn't have success, their appreciation diminishes ala Carmelo Anthony.
The point Im making is, we judge players on production and success. Its too soon to say they they are trash and way too soon to even make an assumption of hall of fame potential.
I'm saying that no team has transplanted ALL important players to win a championship it will take the luster out of it. |
You act as if we haven't missed 6 consecutive playoffs (previously we haven't missed what, more than 2 in a row)?
I like BI and Zo, but I don't think they will be at that level where I absolutely exclude trading them for a surefire all NBA talent.
Now, I want to keep one of BI/Zo for sure. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
You had me at "Reddit Insider." |
Those reddit insiders know more than the real "insiders" who are talking to the teams daily ... how ironic, huh? |
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BlackStarMamba Star Player
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yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | BlackStarMamba wrote: | Die hard Laker fan since 91. I don't want the haul for AD. You can manufacture a championship, but its really lame and not exciting. Its not good. I don't care what anyone says. This is not the Lebron Klutch Lakers.
Every championship team has core players that played big roles in the team. If Lakers traded everyone to have Kyrie/AD/Lebron plus role players win a championship, it would be a Lebron championship and not a LA Lakers one.
You need homegrown talent to be part of championship or it just wouldn't feel right
Boston 08 - Rondo, Big Baby, Perkins. One championship. 11 years later they are not closer to winning another one.
Miami - Wade, Haslem, Chalmers. 2/4 championships and they were not even easy wins. The league was less competitive then, than it is now.
Lakers Teams - Devean George, Kobe, Fisher, Bynum, Sasha
if Hart, Kuz, #4, Zo are gone it will be unprecedented championship without any homegrown talent and will feel really lame. I'm sorry. |
I'll gladly take a championship from LBJ/AD/3rd star. |
lol..different viewpoint. So does it matter the players or just the team on the Jersey. All championships mean the same? |
Team for me.
If I felt that Lonzo/BI could be foundational stars like Kobe/Magic, sure, I'd fight tooth and nail to keep them. But they aren't. So, by whatever means necessary.
Say we get AD and win a ring, he's only 26 right now. Plenty of time to grow old as a Laker. LBJ brings more baggage b/c of his GOAT discussion (and competition with Kobe). But AD has a chance to be the face of this team for a good amount of time. |
we make those final determinations 4-5 years into someone career and its mostly based on success. BI is entering 4, and Zo is entering 2. And Kuz is entering 2. Kobe was air balling threes in his first year.
1st 3 seasons of Kobe Shaq era they didn't win a championship.
ZO/BI has been with Bron 1 season and we are already throwing in the towel, despite knowing the season was riddled with injuries and we didn't have a championship level coach. |
So you will pass on all NBA talent to wait indefinitely for home grown talent to maybe rise to Kobe/Wade levels? I wouldn't. |
i wouldn't pass, I wouldn't trade everyone. AD trade is not the only way to championship in the next 2-3 years imo. Personally AD/Kyrie/Lebron this year and next will be hard pressed to win. The league is more competitive
You can sign an all star this year. You can sign AD or another all star next year as well _________________ I got Nothing interesting to put here |
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D-Shiznit wrote: | Reddit Insider:
Hey guys,
As of 10pm yesterday, Lakers and pelicans have agreed on majority of the trade. What I was told is that Lakers have official told pelicans what they are putting on the table, and the pelicans have agreed to it
The problem has been the third team, during the initial stages it was between Chicago and Phoenix. However both teams have fallen off, two new emerging team have came out, the wizards and the hawks.
There is a high sense of optimism that the trade will get done. |
Hopefully this is true. |
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