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Hero Ball
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| unleasHell wrote: | Horrible team, waste of money...!
We'll get some better players, just gotta have some faith... |
Dude this is all hypothetical.
Don't worry.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | No more 1-year deals for big money. No more punting. Also, Redick is almost certainly staying on the East Coast.
If we struck out on max free agents and if we don't make any major trades, I would target players like Bogdanovich, Mirotic, and maybe even Vucevic. Seth is a very good idea, though I think he gets more than $3.33MM a year. Maybe Lopez would come back if he believes Magic was the reason behind us not wanting him back, but I'm skeptical.
Others I'd look at: Dewayne Dedmon, Pat Beverley, Marcus Morris, Kevon Looney, Kenneth Faried, Darren Collison, Nerlens Noel. |
Punting is for AD.
That is 10M/yr 3yr contract for Seth
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| LakerSD wrote: | Gilbert Arenas had an interesting interview on 710.
| Quote: | | Take with all the grains of salt in the world, but Gilbert Arenas says players will turn down money to come to LA and NY because they can make it back up. Also that “upper turmoil is never a factor for the player”. Says only thing that can deter is “LA media” |
https://twitter.com/unwrittenrul3s/status/1131711273492606976?s=21
He also said if he was KD, he would not start over and he would just try to win as many rings as possible...Said the 2 best places are Warriors or join Lebron. He said anywhere else it will take at least 2-3 years. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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Philly won't be able to pay Redick.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | LakerSD wrote: | Gilbert Arenas had an interesting interview on 710.
| Quote: | | Take with all the grains of salt in the world, but Gilbert Arenas says players will turn down money to come to LA and NY because they can make it back up. Also that “upper turmoil is never a factor for the player”. Says only thing that can deter is “LA media” |
https://twitter.com/unwrittenrul3s/status/1131711273492606976?s=21
He also said if he was KD, he would not start over and he would just try to win as many rings as possible...Said the 2 best places are Warriors or join Lebron. He said anywhere else it will take at least 2-3 years. |
Is that good for us? |
I don’t think KD will think like Arenas. He is too sensitive and wants to prove he can do it with his own team.
The good thing for us is if you are to believe Arenas, players don’t pay too much attention to front office as they don’t deal with upper management too much. If Kawhi, Kyrie or Jimmy have that same mindset then it’s good for us. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | crucifixion wrote: | | What can Klay get now from GSW vs us now that he missed the super max? |
1. App. $36.5 mil
2. Playing with Steph |
meh if that was his last contract i agree
but u r comparing 4years to 5years.
lets compare the 4yr contract value from gsw vs other team |
Let’s not, it is unlikely that Klay signs for 4 years with GS.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | No more 1-year deals for big money. No more punting. Also, Redick is almost certainly staying on the East Coast.
If we struck out on max free agents and if we don't make any major trades, I would target players like Bogdanovich, Mirotic, and maybe even Vucevic. Seth is a very good idea, though I think he gets more than $3.33MM a year. Maybe Lopez would come back if he believes Magic was the reason behind us not wanting him back, but I'm skeptical.
Others I'd look at: Dewayne Dedmon, Pat Beverley, Marcus Morris, Kevon Looney, Kenneth Faried, Darren Collison, Nerlens Noel. |
Punting is for AD.
That is 10M/yr 3yr contract for Seth |
Seth won't require $10MM a year. If he does, oh boy, then the market is going to be crazy again this summer, like it was in the summer of MozDeng lol. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | https://mobile.twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1131700607033565185 |
So now you believe Windhorst? 
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I was in the car and had it on 710 when Sedano had Arenas on, and I had to change the station after about 60 seconds because of the ridiculous ignorance that Arenas was spouting. |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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That is my max for Seth.
D.Collison had 10M from Indiana.
Seth has the numbers.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Quote: | | “From what I understand, he’s already begun the recruiting process. I’ve heard he has had contact with Kawhi Leonard, I’ve heard he’s had contact with Jimmy Butler. There’s no tampering enforcement by players and while Magic Johnson, the guy that got in trouble for tampering before is no longer there, LeBron is tamperer-in-chief of the Lakers right now.” |
Good stuff, Bron! |
Not true, players can be guilty of tampering. If someone complains then the league will have to look into it.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | I was in the car and had it on 710 when Sedano had Arenas on, and I had to change the station after about 60 seconds because of the ridiculous ignorance that Arenas was spouting. |
I feel you. I can’t spend too much time on Sedano either. Super hyper. Hate the way he speaks. Always thought Petros was the worst in LA but Sedano getting close |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | That is my max for Seth.
D.Collison had 10M from Indiana.
Seth has the numbers. |
But Collison had a long track record of proven, relatively well-rounded play as a capable starter or outstanding backup. Seth was and is considered to be a shooting specialist only, although a very good one. Also, I think Collison's $10MM a year was in that MozDeng summer.
Seriously, if Seth is getting $10MM a year, you're going to see guys like Bogdanovich get at least double that. And let's hope that doesn't happen. I think Seth will get something like $5-6MM a year. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | https://mobile.twitter.com/TheHoopCentral/status/1131700607033565185 |
So now you believe Windhorst? |
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | That is my max for Seth.
D.Collison had 10M from Indiana.
Seth has the numbers. |
But Collison had a long track record of proven, relatively well-rounded play as a capable starter or outstanding backup. Seth was and is considered to be a shooting specialist only, although a very good one. Also, I think Collison's $10MM a year was in that MozDeng summer.
Seriously, if Seth is getting $10MM a year, you're going to see guys like Bogdanovich get at least double that. And let's hope that doesn't happen. I think Seth will get something like $5-6MM a year. |
A ton of teams have the money to spend this coming year.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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Why that much for Seth Curry? He sucks. Redick is 35 in a few weeks. 18 Million is a little steep. He was the 5th best player on his team last year.
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Hero Ball
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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| LVLAKERFAN wrote: | | Why that much for Seth Curry? He sucks. Redick is 35 in a few weeks. 18 Million is a little steep. He was the 5th best player on his team last year. |
Redick is 40% 3pt shooter, almost 19 pts a game behind the big 4 of Philly.
Seth is 45% 3 point shooter. Almost 9 points a game.
18M is steep, placeholder contract for AD.
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The Warriors still have a financial edge. Plus they have Curry. And likely 4 titles in 5 seasons.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | Philly won't be able to pay Redick. |
Yes they will, they have early Bird Rights.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Seth was and is considered to be a shooting specialist only, although a very good one. |
Yes, but that is the most in-demand specialty in the league right now. Look at what J.J. Redick is making at age 34. I'm not saying that Seth Curry is going to make as much as Redick, but I would be surprised if he got only $5-6M. We shall see. |
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Philly won't be able to pay Redick. |
Yes they will, they have early Bird Rights. |
Pay Butler, Tobias and Redick?
Redick got just 12M last yr.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | LVLAKERFAN wrote: | | Why that much for Seth Curry? He sucks. Redick is 35 in a few weeks. 18 Million is a little steep. He was the 5th best player on his team last year. |
Redick is 40% 3pt shooter, almost 19 pts a game behind the big 4 of Philly.
Seth is 45% 3 point shooter. Almost 9 points a game.
18M is steep, placeholder contract for AD. |
And Reddick wants to stay East to be near family. That is why he went to Philly in the first place.
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Philly won't be able to pay Redick. |
Yes they will, they have early Bird Rights. |
Pay Butler, Tobias and Redick?
Redick got just 12M last yr. |
Doubtful that Butler stays. And even if he does, they have early Bird Rights.
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| Posted: Thu May 23, 2019 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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I think this is a good thread to talk about.
Hero is not saying he wants this, just what if we strike out with the max guys and big trades (which could certainly happen).
Here's mine:
Closely monitor the AD situation, because adding AD to our core as a FA next season would be best case scenario (without trading the core).
We have the communication with LBJ/RP, so I'd monitor that closely.
I mean if the Knicks get KD and Kyrie, and trade for AD, gotta feel there's a good chance he stays with them, but if it's somewhere else, that would affect my plans.
-Draft Garland at #4
-Buy a 2nd and get Porter Jr.
-Sign Collison 1 yr/12
-Sign Danny Green 1 yr/12
-Sign Dedmon 1 yr/9
-Sign Jav with the Room
PG- Lonzo/Collison/Garland
SG- Green/Ingram/Hart
SF- Ingram/LBJ/Vet min
PF- LBJ/Kuz/Mo
C- Jav/Dedmon/Porter
Play the year out and see what happens.
If AD is possible as a FA, we're in position (we'd either have to sign Ingram for less than his cap hold, or move he or Zo to make max space available for AD.
We'd have early Bird on Jav, still have the room (either Green or Collison), and perhaps have replacements for Collison /Green (Garland) and Dedmon (Porter)
PG- Zo/Garland
SG- Green/Garland/Hart
SF- Ingram/LBJ
PF- LBJ/Kuz/Mo
C- AD/Jav/Porter
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