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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

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to the contrary, i see less chance KL signs with Clippers if they go past GSW in the first round. if the Clippers actually accomplish that feat, it'll be the biggest 1st round upset in the NBA history. i can see pauses from KL going to that team came off a historic run.


KD joined a 73-9 team who was a nut punch away from winning the finals. Kawhi is going to do what he wants to do.


Literally. If GSW won, I wonder if KD would have still gone there.

As for Kawhi, he seems to follow his own path. He left Air Jordan for New Balance, which is not the first brand I think of when it comes to basketball shoes. However, KL will be the big fish in that small pond. In fact, he's the only fish as I don't think New Balance has sponsored anyone else. Don't know how relevant it is to his FA decision, but does give some insight into his thought process.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:31 am    Post subject:

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I'm not worried about Butler's age. He'll be 30 next year. We're on a 3-year plan right now to maximize LeBron's contract. I don't think Butler is going to fall off a cliff for a couple more years.

He wouldn't be my first choice, but we could do worse.


not sure when he falls off the cliff....but when he does, I think it will be fast and ugly based on his game. Guys like Lebron, Druant, Curry could probably play until they were 40 and still have some positive contributions on the floor based on their game.....Butler, not so much.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:36 am    Post subject:

Don’t forget the Marky Mark factor

Could steer Jimmy Buckets right to Boston
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:51 am    Post subject:

Butler is feasible but I worry about his fit with Lebron in addition to locker room issues.

I still like a Lonzo for Conley deal as a backup. Conley has a big contract but it’s only two more years as opposed to 4 years for a guy like Butler. Matches up with Lebron’s timeline and would give us a little more cap room to fill out the roster. And of course he is a heck of a player.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:03 am    Post subject:

SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote:
Butler is feasible but I worry about his fit with Lebron in addition to locker room issues.

I still like a Lonzo for Conley deal as a backup. Conley has a big contract but it’s only two more years as opposed to 4 years for a guy like Butler. Matches up with Lebron’s timeline and would give us a little more cap room to fill out the roster. And of course he is a heck of a player.

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I'd say Conley is a net negative asset due to his contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject:

It's not just about the FA, I think the Lakers have to do A LOT pre-free agency, coach and management is obvious, but even with the draft they have to show they have a plan to fill out a solid roster.

I think the Lakers are going to have to move some pieces (i.e. some of the young players) for more experience well rounded vet roll players, LeBron + FA + mostly young guys isn't getting it done, LeBron + FA + some young guys + upper tier solid starting role player has a chance. For me I'd like to see LA build around LeBron and Ball......everyone else I would be open to including in a trade...not that we would trade all unless its like an AD situation....but rather a combo of some subset of those player....
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Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:14 am    Post subject:

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Don’t forget the Marky Mark factor

Could steer Jimmy Buckets right to Boston


I’m pretty sure that doucher lives in LA.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:15 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote:
Butler is feasible but I worry about his fit with Lebron in addition to locker room issues.

I still like a Lonzo for Conley deal as a backup. Conley has a big contract but it’s only two more years as opposed to 4 years for a guy like Butler. Matches up with Lebron’s timeline and would give us a little more cap room to fill out the roster. And of course he is a heck of a player.

yikes
I'd say Conley is a net negative asset due to his contract.


I think people should give Zo a chance this season before trying to trade him unless it’s for a guy like AD. He was hurt last offseason but still used that time to work on strength training (mostly upper). I think this offseason pretty healthy and with knowledge of the areas he needs to improve on, he can become a really good player next season. He improved 10% in his at rim 0-3 ft finishing which was nice to see. 3% on the 3 ball which is a good start. I think next year is his breakout year.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:18 am    Post subject:

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audioaxes wrote:
SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote:
Butler is feasible but I worry about his fit with Lebron in addition to locker room issues.

I still like a Lonzo for Conley deal as a backup. Conley has a big contract but it’s only two more years as opposed to 4 years for a guy like Butler. Matches up with Lebron’s timeline and would give us a little more cap room to fill out the roster. And of course he is a heck of a player.

yikes
I'd say Conley is a net negative asset due to his contract.


I think people should give Zo a chance this season before trying to trade him unless it’s for a guy like AD. He was hurt last offseason but still used that time to work on strength training (mostly upper). I think this offseason pretty healthy and with knowledge of the areas he needs to improve on, he can become a really good player next season. He improved 10% in his at rim 0-3 ft finishing which was nice to see. 3% on the 3 ball which is a good start. I think next year is his breakout year.


Just me, but I’m not trading Zo or Ingram for anyone.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject:

audioaxes wrote:
SHAQ/KOBE=#1 wrote:
Butler is feasible but I worry about his fit with Lebron in addition to locker room issues.

I still like a Lonzo for Conley deal as a backup. Conley has a big contract but it’s only two more years as opposed to 4 years for a guy like Butler. Matches up with Lebron’s timeline and would give us a little more cap room to fill out the roster. And of course he is a heck of a player.

yikes
I'd say Conley is a net negative asset due to his contract.

Not even close.

I’d rather have Conley for 2 years at his salary than Butler for 4 at an even bigger salary.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:31 am    Post subject:

epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:32 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


No.
Next Question.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:36 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


That’s a Hell No from me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:39 am    Post subject:

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BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


No.
Next Question.


I meant the teams guys. Lauri has an extra year on his contract and BI has the blood clot. I think the Bulls say no.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject:

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Anyone who joins the clippers is basically signing up for a contract of irrelevancy. Basically career suicide. Not from a basketball standpoint, but from a branding standpoint. Even in la, clippers could win a championship and most of the city would barely bat an eye. La is Lakers town. Always has and always will be. Joining the clippers over Lakers is like choosing to star in an independent movie over a marvel or star wars film. It's the difference between being Jean Dujardin vs being Chris Hemsworth. Jean Dujardin won best actor in 2011 in The Artist, while Chris Hemsworth is Thor from the marvel movies. I think if you ask the average person whom they most recognize by name, chris Hemsworth wins by a landslide. Joining the Lakers even at it's current state can change your whole career and life. You think d'angelo Russell or julius Randle would be half as talked about even now if they hadn't been drafted by the Lakers? Robert horry for example has 7 championships and if you ask the common sports fan I think most associate him with the Lakers and I'd bet many couldn't tell you the other two teams he won a championships with.



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:51 am    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


I'd do Kuzma and our 2019 1st for Lauri.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:56 am    Post subject:

JUST-MING wrote:
monster_montego wrote:
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Anyone who joins the clippers is basically signing up for a contract of irrelevancy. Basically career suicide. Not from a basketball standpoint, but from a branding standpoint. Even in la, clippers could win a championship and most of the city would barely bat an eye. La is Lakers town. Always has and always will be. Joining the clippers over Lakers is like choosing to star in an independent movie over a marvel or star wars film. It's the difference between being Jean Dujardin vs being Chris Hemsworth. Jean Dujardin won best actor in 2011 in The Artist, while Chris Hemsworth is Thor from the marvel movies. I think if you ask the average person whom they most recognize by name, chris Hemsworth wins by a landslide. Joining the Lakers even at it's current state can change your whole career and life. You think d'angelo Russell or julius Randle would be half as talked about even now if they hadn't been drafted by the Lakers? Robert horry for example has 7 championships and if you ask the common sports fan I think most associate him with the Lakers and I'd bet many couldn't tell you the other two teams he won a championships with.



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I agree with this, but any brand can deteriorate and open the door for another to take its place. We are not there yet but depending on how Jeanie runs this team over the coming years we can very well start to see this happen.
When Balmer bought the Clippers he should have immediately tried renaming the team to help disassociate it off the joke of a reputation the Clippers have had.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 11:58 am    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


I'd do Kuzma and our 2019 1st for Lauri.


Me too.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:02 pm    Post subject:

The Juggernaut wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


I'd do Kuzma and our 2019 1st for Lauri.


I would trade Linda for Lauri.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:05 pm    Post subject:

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My concern is not Butler’s skill. It’s the max money we will have to compensate him.


Butler will compete, but he should really be the third star at his age next season. If we sign him, we need one or two of the kids to pop. Also, is the remaining 7m dollars enough money to sign legit role players? I don’t have a problem with teams paying players (except Kobe’s dumb contract), but this team needs role players as well.


And we need role players like you see on the Clippers and Blazer. Guys who you don't know, but go out and compete every night. We seem to always go for the big-name Vet player, who is comfortable with their career. Also they can't shoot.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:15 pm    Post subject:

vanexelent wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
€H£M£$TR¥ wrote:
My concern is not Butler’s skill. It’s the max money we will have to compensate him.


Butler will compete, but he should really be the third star at his age next season. If we sign him, we need one or two of the kids to pop. Also, is the remaining 7m dollars enough money to sign legit role players? I don’t have a problem with teams paying players (except Kobe’s dumb contract), but this team needs role players as well.


And we need role players like you see on the Clippers and Blazer. Guys who you don't know, but go out and compete every night. We seem to always go for the big-name Vet player, who is comfortable with their career. Also they can't shoot.


This organization is the worst, I swear.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject:

BigGameHames wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


No.
Next Question.


I meant the teams guys. Lauri has an extra year on his contract and BI has the blood clot. I think the Bulls say no.


Dont forget that Lauri has a blood clot issue as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Staccatos wrote:
The Juggernaut wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


I'd do Kuzma and our 2019 1st for Lauri.


I would trade Linda for Lauri.


I'm on the fence on that one.
Linda is a master of analytics.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:20 pm    Post subject:

epak wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
epak wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G9EzVXAVK0

Probably Lauri's best game last year.
Those points in transition for a big is pretty nice.


Lauri for BI... who says no?


No.
Next Question.


I meant the teams guys. Lauri has an extra year on his contract and BI has the blood clot. I think the Bulls say no.


Dont forget that Lauri has a blood clot issue as well.


I’m 99% sure you’re joking, but not positive.
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