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| adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | But if I'm wrong and this forum somehow controls the future of the Lakers, I petition changing the name to KeepIngramAndLonzoGround.net |
Exactly.
I hope the internet doesn't sway decision makers. |
I hope the rest of you guys do not sway decision makers....I am good if those decision makers listen to me. |
Thank goodness they dont listen to you.  |
I would have made very few poor or questionable decisions. The only one I can really recall would have been
-- I give Kobe the extension....and still would. Keeping him in Lakers jersey is priceless IMO.
-- drafting Josh Jackson #2....clearly not played near a #2 pick
-- and I likely would have traded Randle for Noel when Dallas offered. In my defense, at the time, Randle was not playing much....but clearly he has become the better player.
-- I would not have did the Nance/Clarkson deal....and I still would not, but I know many think that was a good deal.
on the plus side....
-- no way in hell I give those contracts to Mozgov and Deng, and was outraged the the minute they were announced.
-- I never trade DLo
-- I never trade Zubac for Muscala
-- I do not release restricted rights on Randle
-- I draft Mitchell Robinson instead on Wagner, and I draft Melton over Bonga
-- I end up good with Mintz, so I probably sign a younger PG-13 instead of Lebron
-- Luke would have had some gray heads on the bench....at least some salt and peppers.
-- I continue to develop Anthony Brown for another year instead of keeping Metta.
-- I do not dump Nwaba to give KCP a few extra $100k's
-- Laker Girls would be thicker and routines would be much less stale
-- I would not have hired the Kardashian's personal trainer
-- My top international scout would be old enough to run for Congress
I could keep going, but I would be a solid GM.  |
just as a summary, this is your roster (assuming these are the only moves you make):
D'Angelo Russell
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster?
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:27 am Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | But if I'm wrong and this forum somehow controls the future of the Lakers, I petition changing the name to KeepIngramAndLonzoGround.net |
Exactly.
I hope the internet doesn't sway decision makers. |
I hope the rest of you guys do not sway decision makers....I am good if those decision makers listen to me. |
Thank goodness they dont listen to you. |
I would have made very few poor or questionable decisions. The only one I can really recall would have been
-- I give Kobe the extension....and still would. Keeping him in Lakers jersey is priceless IMO.
-- drafting Josh Jackson #2....clearly not played near a #2 pick
-- and I likely would have traded Randle for Noel when Dallas offered. In my defense, at the time, Randle was not playing much....but clearly he has become the better player.
-- I would not have did the Nance/Clarkson deal....and I still would not, but I know many think that was a good deal.
on the plus side....
-- no way in hell I give those contracts to Mozgov and Deng, and was outraged the the minute they were announced.
-- I never trade DLo
-- I never trade Zubac for Muscala
-- I do not release restricted rights on Randle
-- I draft Mitchell Robinson instead on Wagner, and I draft Melton over Bonga
-- I end up good with Mintz, so I probably sign a younger PG-13 instead of Lebron
-- Luke would have had some gray heads on the bench....at least some salt and peppers.
-- I continue to develop Anthony Brown for another year instead of keeping Metta.
-- I do not dump Nwaba to give KCP a few extra $100k's
-- Laker Girls would be thicker and routines would be much less stale
-- I would not have hired the Kardashian's personal trainer
-- My top international scout would be old enough to run for Congress
I could keep going, but I would be a solid GM. |
just as a summary, this is your roster (assuming these are the only moves you make):
D'Angelo Russell
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
Still an awful shooting team. |
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Math
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:28 am Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | But if I'm wrong and this forum somehow controls the future of the Lakers, I petition changing the name to KeepIngramAndLonzoGround.net |
Exactly.
I hope the internet doesn't sway decision makers. |
I hope the rest of you guys do not sway decision makers....I am good if those decision makers listen to me. |
Thank goodness they dont listen to you. |
I would have made very few poor or questionable decisions. The only one I can really recall would have been
-- I give Kobe the extension....and still would. Keeping him in Lakers jersey is priceless IMO.
-- drafting Josh Jackson #2....clearly not played near a #2 pick
-- and I likely would have traded Randle for Noel when Dallas offered. In my defense, at the time, Randle was not playing much....but clearly he has become the better player.
-- I would not have did the Nance/Clarkson deal....and I still would not, but I know many think that was a good deal.
on the plus side....
-- no way in hell I give those contracts to Mozgov and Deng, and was outraged the the minute they were announced.
-- I never trade DLo
-- I never trade Zubac for Muscala
-- I do not release restricted rights on Randle
-- I draft Mitchell Robinson instead on Wagner, and I draft Melton over Bonga
-- I end up good with Mintz, so I probably sign a younger PG-13 instead of Lebron
-- Luke would have had some gray heads on the bench....at least some salt and peppers.
-- I continue to develop Anthony Brown for another year instead of keeping Metta.
-- I do not dump Nwaba to give KCP a few extra $100k's
-- Laker Girls would be thicker and routines would be much less stale
-- I would not have hired the Kardashian's personal trainer
-- My top international scout would be old enough to run for Congress
I could keep going, but I would be a solid GM. |
just as a summary, this is your roster (assuming these are the only moves you make):
D'Angelo Russell
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
It needs more players.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:29 am Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | epak wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: | | But if I'm wrong and this forum somehow controls the future of the Lakers, I petition changing the name to KeepIngramAndLonzoGround.net |
Exactly.
I hope the internet doesn't sway decision makers. |
I hope the rest of you guys do not sway decision makers....I am good if those decision makers listen to me. |
Thank goodness they dont listen to you. |
I would have made very few poor or questionable decisions. The only one I can really recall would have been
-- I give Kobe the extension....and still would. Keeping him in Lakers jersey is priceless IMO.
-- drafting Josh Jackson #2....clearly not played near a #2 pick
-- and I likely would have traded Randle for Noel when Dallas offered. In my defense, at the time, Randle was not playing much....but clearly he has become the better player.
-- I would not have did the Nance/Clarkson deal....and I still would not, but I know many think that was a good deal.
on the plus side....
-- no way in hell I give those contracts to Mozgov and Deng, and was outraged the the minute they were announced.
-- I never trade DLo
-- I never trade Zubac for Muscala
-- I do not release restricted rights on Randle
-- I draft Mitchell Robinson instead on Wagner, and I draft Melton over Bonga
-- I end up good with Mintz, so I probably sign a younger PG-13 instead of Lebron
-- Luke would have had some gray heads on the bench....at least some salt and peppers.
-- I continue to develop Anthony Brown for another year instead of keeping Metta.
-- I do not dump Nwaba to give KCP a few extra $100k's
-- Laker Girls would be thicker and routines would be much less stale
-- I would not have hired the Kardashian's personal trainer
-- My top international scout would be old enough to run for Congress
I could keep going, but I would be a solid GM. |
just as a summary, this is your roster (assuming these are the only moves you make):
D'Angelo Russell
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
Better than AD/LBJ/Caruso/Bonga + 27 million
There's still a lot of unaccounted capspace with that roster |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:30 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | I think you're floating this as half-serious secretly hoping for non-ironic praise. So: you'd make a wonderful GM, adkindo! Yes you would! Yes you would! |
your hypothesis on why is silly, yet I agree with your final conclusion |
Oh, you!
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why do people keep floating around the idea that no Lebron means PG13 magically signs with the Lakers? Its clear he got mesmerized by Westbrook and was not staying regardless.
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| adkindo wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | I think people need to come to grips that it’s either all the deals or none of the deals. need to accept the lebron signing and the kuzma deals with the dlo and zu deals. no in between. |
so you think people should act as minions? This is the most illogical advice I have read in a while. |
no, just saying that they can’t cherry pick to rate a front office team. i’m not saying we can’t dislike some, but when it comes to evaluating a front office, you have to take their contribution as a whole.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: |
D'Angelo Russell / Melton
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
forgot Melton, and I get 4 more players. Also, it is a stretch to say Brown is still on the roster....just strongly disagreed with dumping a player after rookie season to keep a beyond washed Metta. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:36 am Post subject: |
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| adkindo wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: |
D'Angelo Russell / Melton
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
forgot Melton, and I get 4 more players. Also, it is a stretch to say Brown is still on the roster....just strongly disagreed with dumping a player after rookie season to keep a beyond washed Metta. |
Who do you sign with the extra capspace? |
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| audioaxes wrote: | | why do people keep floating around the idea that no Lebron means PG13 magically signs with the Lakers? Its clear he got mesmerized by Westbrook and was not staying regardless. |
if "people" is referring to me, that was not the thought process. My basis was I would still be on better terms with his agent, and my quick assumption was I would not have enough money for both....but I did not really work out the math. I do think "part" of the reason that PG is not a Laker is related to Lebron and Mintz. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:37 am Post subject: |
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| hydrohead wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | I think people need to come to grips that it’s either all the deals or none of the deals. need to accept the lebron signing and the kuzma deals with the dlo and zu deals. no in between. |
so you think people should act as minions? This is the most illogical advice I have read in a while. |
no, just saying that they can’t cherry pick to rate a front office team. i’m not saying we can’t dislike some, but when it comes to evaluating a front office, you have to take their contribution as a whole. |
But... separately , but to your point, aren’t we minions as fans?
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | 1ngr4m wrote: |
D'Angelo Russell / Melton
Paul George/ David Nwaba
Brandon Ingram/ Josh Jackson/Anthony Brown
Julius Randle/ Kyle Kuzma
Mitchell Robinson/Ivica Zubac'
What are your guys thoughts on this roster? |
forgot Melton, and I get 4 more players. Also, it is a stretch to say Brown is still on the roster....just strongly disagreed with dumping a player after rookie season to keep a beyond washed Metta. |
Who do you sign with the extra capspace? |
not sure that is fair....I would just pick the best options after the fact....the items I listed are supported by posts at the time they happened. |
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| hydrohead wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | hydrohead wrote: | | I think people need to come to grips that it’s either all the deals or none of the deals. need to accept the lebron signing and the kuzma deals with the dlo and zu deals. no in between. |
so you think people should act as minions? This is the most illogical advice I have read in a while. |
no, just saying that they can’t cherry pick to rate a front office team. i’m not saying we can’t dislike some, but when it comes to evaluating a front office, you have to take their contribution as a whole. |
But... separately , but to your point, aren’t we minions as fans? |
Not sure how you define it, but I would consider being a "minion" as someone that just agrees and supports every decision of the team/FO/players.....and I do not think most on LG do that. I do not think I should have to justify actions by those associated with the Lakers if I do not agree with them, and I do not think that diminishes my level of fandom. |
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Im just gonna go ahead and post my dream roster for next season since we're all auditioning for a role in the Lakers FO.
Lonzo Ball/ Seth Curry
Kawhi Leonard/ Josh Hart
Brandon Ingram/Danny Green
Lebron James/Kyle Kuzma
Javale McGee/Robin Lopez
Yeah I realize this isn't realistic but my reasonings:
We have two stars (Kawhi and Lebron) that can both carry the offensive side, and one of them is one of the best defensive players in the league.
We have Ball and Ingram as our 3rd/4th most important players because they'll bring hustle and tenacity on defense while having certain skills on the offensive side that can really elevate the team.
We have McGee and Lopez as our centers so that we can have one true big on the floor whenever we need to go that route.
We fill the bench with scorers and shooters in Curry, Hart, Kuzma and Green.
5 Good to Great defensive players: Ball, Ingram, Kawhi, Hart, (Bron + Green/2)
5 Good to Great shooters: Kawhi, Lebron, Curry, Green, (Kuzma + Hart/2)
Two guys that can lead the team to victories on their own.
Thoughts/ 1-10 ratings please.
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| Between the money George Soros pays me to protest Trump and what Jim pays me to crap on Jeanie on LG, I'll never need a real job again. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:49 am Post subject: |
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Pelindo? Pelinkdo? Pekindo? Adlinka?
OK, I'll see myself out now. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Between the money George Soros pays me to protest Trump and what Jim pays me to crap on Jeanie on LG, I'll never need a real job again. |
Do you take pleasure in the current state of our franchise? Genuinely asking.
After all, you are right. The Lakers are in a bad state.
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | Im just gonna go ahead and post my dream roster for next season since we're all auditioning for a role in the Lakers FO.
Lonzo Ball/ Seth Curry
Kawhi Leonard/ Josh Hart
Brandon Ingram/Danny Green
Lebron James/Kyle Kuzma
Javale McGee/Robin Lopez
Yeah I realize this isn't realistic but my reasonings:
We have two stars (Kawhi and Lebron) that can both carry the offensive side, and one of them is one of the best defensive players in the league.
We have Ball and Ingram as our 3rd/4th most important players because they'll bring hustle and tenacity on defense while having certain skills on the offensive side that can really elevate the team.
We have McGee and Lopez as our centers so that we can have one true big on the floor whenever we need to go that route.
We fill the bench with scorers and shooters in Curry, Hart, Kuzma and Green.
5 Good to Great defensive players: Ball, Ingram, Kawhi, Hart, (Bron + Green/2)
5 Good to Great shooters: Kawhi, Lebron, Curry, Green, (Kuzma + Hart/2)
Two guys that can lead the team to victories on their own.
Thoughts/ 1-10 ratings please. |
So we are signing KL, Curry, Green, Lopez with 36m and a room exception?
Of course it's a phenomenal team but unfortunately implausible for salary cap reasons.
KL takes 32. 4m + room for Curry/Green/Lopez isn't likely. Maybe you can get Curry/Lopez, and that team is still very very good.
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| kikanga wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Between the money George Soros pays me to protest Trump and what Jim pays me to crap on Jeanie on LG, I'll never need a real job again. |
Do you take pleasure in the current state of our franchise? Genuinely asking.
After all, you are right. The Lakers are in a bad state. |
Obviously he doesn’t. It’s just that it’s blatant how badly this team is ran. Why should he sugarcoat things?
On top of that LG would say all sorts of things about the previous regime, while this new regime had a clear slate with no outside interference and still sucked. Why shouldn’t the owner, President, GM, etc get blamed?
Jeanie sucks at this and it’s clear. He doesn’t enjoy it. He’s just speaking facts. |
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| Stumpy25 wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | 4 years ago on LG:
"Y'all are being paid by Jeanie to trash Jim on LG."
Today on LG:
"Y'all are being paid by Jim to trash Jeanie on LG." |
Nah, that first line was never the case. In fact, many during Jim's tenure called out how certain prominent posters on here would adamantly and blindly defend Jim and come up with crazy conspiracy theories to spin it favor of Jim. |
Jim Lovers = Jeanne Haters
Yeah they're still around I wonder what their true agenda is on LG. Are they friends of Jim Buss, did they work for him at some point? Who knows but they're certainly still here. |
You have failed to consider the possibility that both Jim and Jeannie were poor choices for the positions given to them. |
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Criticizing how poorly run this organization is has somehow turned into a conspiracy theory.  |
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| 1ngr4m wrote: | Im just gonna go ahead and post my dream roster for next season since we're all auditioning for a role in the Lakers FO.
Lonzo Ball/ Seth Curry
Kawhi Leonard/ Josh Hart
Brandon Ingram/Danny Green
Lebron James/Kyle Kuzma
Javale McGee/Robin Lopez
Yeah I realize this isn't realistic but my reasonings:
We have two stars (Kawhi and Lebron) that can both carry the offensive side, and one of them is one of the best defensive players in the league.
We have Ball and Ingram as our 3rd/4th most important players because they'll bring hustle and tenacity on defense while having certain skills on the offensive side that can really elevate the team.
We have McGee and Lopez as our centers so that we can have one true big on the floor whenever we need to go that route.
We fill the bench with scorers and shooters in Curry, Hart, Kuzma and Green.
5 Good to Great defensive players: Ball, Ingram, Kawhi, Hart, (Bron + Green/2)
5 Good to Great shooters: Kawhi, Lebron, Curry, Green, (Kuzma + Hart/2)
Two guys that can lead the team to victories on their own.
Thoughts/ 1-10 ratings please. |
That’s pretty much my ideal/slightly realistic roster as well. I would shake up the lineups you posted but all in all I really like it. One criticism would be to get a stretch big instead of Seth Curry and let Bron and Zo handle most of the PG minutes with Caruso getting spot minutes. If we have Danny Green then Curry’s shooting becomes less vital at the guard spot but could be needed from a big guy to get opposing centers out of the lane on occasion. |
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| Quote: | Lonzo Ball/ Seth Curry
Kawhi Leonard/ Josh Hart
Brandon Ingram/Danny Green
Lebron James/Kyle Kuzma
Javale McGee/Robin Lopez |
I like this lineup a lot in theory.
But due to cap constraints, maybe more like:
Lonzo/Caruso
BI/Hart
KL/Jones/Bonga
LBJ/Kuz
Dedmon/JaV/Mo
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| I had a dream and Patty Mills was on the Lakers, I won’t mind adding him he is a reliable 3pt shooter and we need that. |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Quote: | Lonzo Ball/ Seth Curry
Kawhi Leonard/ Josh Hart
Brandon Ingram/Danny Green
Lebron James/Kyle Kuzma
Javale McGee/Robin Lopez |
I like this lineup a lot in theory.
But due to cap constraints, maybe more like:
Lonzo/Caruso
BI/Hart
KL/Jones/Bonga
LBJ/Kuz
Dedmon/JaV/Mo |
How are you expecting to have Dedmon and McGee? Both are looking to get some financial security this summer. |
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