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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 8:48 pm    Post subject:

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Is PG13 the best player in the game?


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Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


which leads to another question....Is there a real chance Lebron is not 1st Team All NBA this season? Giannis, Durant, and PG-13 would appear more deserving if the vote was today. Also in All NBA, they actually choose a Center unlike the All Star game....so that will be Embiid or AD.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:06 pm    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
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lonzobryant wrote:
Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


which leads to another question....Is there a real chance Lebron is not 1st Team All NBA this season? Giannis, Durant, and PG-13 would appear more deserving if the vote was today. Also in All NBA, they actually choose a Center unlike the All Star game....so that will be Embiid or AD.


LeBron probably won't be 1st team this season because of the missed games. PG would finish 3rd in MVP voting if the season ended today, I believe, and I believe he will garner the 1st Team selection if he keeps this up.

Maybe this is a "prove it" tour this season for PG, and I'm skeptical that he can keep this up in the years to come. If he can, wow, did we miss out.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:08 pm    Post subject:

So KD really leaving ha? https://twitter.com/timkawakami is legit source when it comes to Dubs so i really think hes leaving and seems like its for Knicks. The thing is we all know he wont go there alone. Who will join him? Kyrie? Kawhi? AD by trade? Klay probably stays since Dubs would offer super max to him.

I think it will be Kyrie and that leaves us Kawhi and AD. Those guys wont go after AD if Kyrie leaves so that leaves Lakers and Clippers for AD. I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.

I can be wrong but seems like there will be big shake up and hope KD really leaves so everybody can have their chance.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:11 pm    Post subject:

ChickenStu wrote:
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LakerLogic wrote:
lonzobryant wrote:
Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


which leads to another question....Is there a real chance Lebron is not 1st Team All NBA this season? Giannis, Durant, and PG-13 would appear more deserving if the vote was today. Also in All NBA, they actually choose a Center unlike the All Star game....so that will be Embiid or AD.


LeBron probably won't be 1st team this season because of the missed games. PG would finish 3rd in MVP voting if the season ended today, I believe, and I believe he will garner the 1st Team selection if he keeps this up.

Maybe this is a "prove it" tour this season for PG, and I'm skeptical that he can keep this up in the years to come. If he can, wow, did we miss out.


wow...I mean that is kind of a big deal for Lebron to be relegated to the 2nd Team. The last time he did not make 1st Team was in 2007!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:18 pm    Post subject:

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So KD really leaving ha? https://twitter.com/timkawakami is legit source when it comes to Dubs so i really think hes leaving and seems like its for Knicks. The thing is we all know he wont go there alone. Who will join him? Kyrie? Kawhi? AD by trade? Klay probably stays since Dubs would offer super max to him.

I think it will be Kyrie and that leaves us Kawhi and AD. Those guys wont go after AD if Kyrie leaves so that leaves Lakers and Clippers for AD. I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.

I can be wrong but seems like there will be big shake up and hope KD really leaves so everybody can have their chance.


If I was not a fan of a team, I would actually prefer Lebron, Durant, Harden, Steph, Giannis, Paul George, Kawhi, AD, Embiid, Westbrook etc. be on as many different teams as possible. I think the whole superteam has became boring. i am fine with a team having multiple all stars....but stuffing 2-3 All NBA players on a single roster has not been great for the game in my opinion. I miss the days when teams mostly all had a star, and there was more real team building.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:24 pm    Post subject:

Palin wrote:
So KD really leaving ha? https://twitter.com/timkawakami is legit source when it comes to Dubs so i really think hes leaving and seems like its for Knicks. The thing is we all know he wont go there alone. Who will join him? Kyrie? Kawhi? AD by trade? Klay probably stays since Dubs would offer super max to him.

I think it will be Kyrie and that leaves us Kawhi and AD. Those guys wont go after AD if Kyrie leaves so that leaves Lakers and Clippers for AD. I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.

I can be wrong but seems like there will be big shake up and hope KD really leaves so everybody can have their chance.


Would love KD commiting to Knicks and then Kyrie commiting to Lakers afterwards.

Doing this will screw up KD, Knicks, Celtics and pelicans to an extent
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject:

LakerLogic wrote:
lonzobryant wrote:
Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


I was one of those who said good riddance to PG13 this past summer, didn't think he was worth the max.

Oops. Add that to the long list of things I've been completely wrong about.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
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lonzobryant wrote:
Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


I was one of those who said good riddance to PG13 this past summer, didn't think he was worth the max.

Oops. Add that to the long list of things I've been completely wrong about.


I don't think anyone could have really predicted how well he has played.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:33 pm    Post subject:

pokoy wrote:
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lonzobryant wrote:
Is PG13 the best player in the game?


1st team All-NBA, 1st team All-D


I was one of those who said good riddance to PG13 this past summer, didn't think he was worth the max.

Oops. Add that to the long list of things I've been completely wrong about.


even within his biggest supporters on LG, I never saw anyone project him to have a year like he has this season.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:38 pm    Post subject:

Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:45 pm    Post subject:

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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:47 pm    Post subject:

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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


defense, don't be a hater....the guy is playing out of his mind
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:48 pm    Post subject:

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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


defense, don't be a hater....the guy is playing out of his mind


So is DLo.

Damn Lakers are screwed.
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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


Lebron james is not the GOAT! and will never be. That a bunch of writers who only look at stats. You see lebron, is he good this year.....no. He is a laker and i will root for him but come on. All of see that he is not as great as the hype is. we saw magic and kobe first hand....and this guy does not come close. I know he is at the end of his career but the hype of espn has always been greater than the talent. Still love him as a laker!!!


Reading context Buddy
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Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


Lebron james is not the GOAT! and will never be. That a bunch of writers who only look at stats. You see lebron, is he good this year.....no. He is a laker and i will root for him but come on. All of see that he is not as great as the hype is. we saw magic and kobe first hand....and this guy does not come close. I know he is at the end of his career but the hype of espn has always been greater than the talent. Still love him as a laker!!!


no matter what me and you think, I expect by the time he retires, the majority narrative will be he is the GOAT....and that narrative will likely last for a couple decades. Each day that passes, less and less people with opinions saw Kareem, Jordan or whoever you think is the GOAT play.
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Jesusdelonla wrote:
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defense wrote:
Let's see how he does in the playoffs before we declare him the goat


Lebron james is not the GOAT! and will never be. That a bunch of writers who only look at stats. You see lebron, is he good this year.....no. He is a laker and i will root for him but come on. All of see that he is not as great as the hype is. we saw magic and kobe first hand....and this guy does not come close. I know he is at the end of his career but the hype of espn has always been greater than the talent. Still love him as a laker!!!


Reading context Buddy

yeah i think you were talking about paul george and i talked about lebron....sorry
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:30 pm    Post subject:

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I hope the Lakers go after Vucevic this summer. Seems that he gives Joel Embid a run for his money head to head and he can stretch the floor.



He's a very good player, leaves all on the floor...they'll be lots of
players to choose from in FA but Lakers should go for realistic targets
and not end up with leftovers...


Rework the 2012 trade to have Vucevic come here instead of going to ORL. We would have avoided Dwight and had Vucevic

In fact it would have been much easier than the 4 team trade that actually went down...
76ers receive Bynum 15M (who they actually got)
Lakers receive Vucevic (Rookie deal) + Andre Iguodala 13M

Instead of:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/fnItpc4f_R4/maxresdefault.jpg


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:43 pm    Post subject:

Would have been pretty sweet with PG on the Lakers.


Lonzo
PG
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Portis
McGee

Would have been sweet indeed.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:44 pm    Post subject:

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I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.



Clippers' package could be more enticing to the Pelicans.

Landry Shamet
SGA (he is probably on a similar tier to Lonzo at this point)
Lou Williams (Can easily be moved for another 1st round pick)
2019 Clippers Lottery Pick, 2021 Clippers 1st round pick
2021 Miami Pick (Easily could be a lottery pick).

The advantage of that trade is you have players on their rookie contract for 3 more years instead of having to pay Ingram, Kuzma and Ball big money in 1 and 2 years.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:49 pm    Post subject:

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I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.



Clippers' package could be more enticing to the Pelicans.

Landry Shamet
SGA (he is probably on a similar tier to Lonzo at this point)
Lou Williams (Can easily be moved for another 1st round pick)
2019 Clippers Lottery Pick, 2021 Clippers 1st round pick
2021 Miami Pick (Easily could be a lottery pick).

The advantage of that trade is you have players on their rookie contract for 3 more years instead of having to pay Ingram, Kuzma and Ball big money in 1 and 2 years.


But that 3 Lakers blue chip vs maybe 1 clippers blue chip is 1 season of SGA is enough for Pels... paying big money for a blue chip with 2-3 yrs of proven record worth much more than non-top 3 pick or unproven cheaper player
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:02 pm    Post subject:

Again... why do some of you want to get into a bidding war?

We dodged the bullet... and some of you still want Magic to go back and do the same thing?

The one thing that might stop him from doing Klutch's plan... is if enough fans tell him they think it's not a great idea.

If half are supporting losing the core and draft picks... I have a feeling that's exactly what's going to happen.

We can't beat Philly with a year older LBJ, AD and ringchasers

Probably won't be able to beat GSW if they keep most of their players.

OKC will be stronger with Roberson back... they have developed a really nice defensive unit.

Denver will be stronger adding IT and Michael Porter Jr next year.

Dallas will be decent combining Porzingis to Doncic.

Morey will be wheeling and dealing to improve Houston.

We need to focus on getting the elite free agent

The AD trade should only be a last resort... and even then I think it only works if we can swing a third agent.

Old LBJ plus AD plus no bench and no draft picks = five to ten years of gradual decline... with no horizon in sight.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:02 pm    Post subject:

governator wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Palin wrote:
I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.



Clippers' package could be more enticing to the Pelicans.

Landry Shamet
SGA (he is probably on a similar tier to Lonzo at this point)
Lou Williams (Can easily be moved for another 1st round pick)
2019 Clippers Lottery Pick, 2021 Clippers 1st round pick
2021 Miami Pick (Easily could be a lottery pick).

The advantage of that trade is you have players on their rookie contract for 3 more years instead of having to pay Ingram, Kuzma and Ball big money in 1 and 2 years.


But that 3 Lakers blue chip vs maybe 1 clippers blue chip is 1 season of SGA is enough for Pels... paying big money for a blue chip with 2-3 yrs of proven record worth much more than non-top 3 pick or unproven cheaper player


Would you really want to pay big money to Ingram and Ball at this point? You probably couldn't trade either for a top-10 pick in the up-coming draft because both aren't surefire all-stars, but would require $15m+ a year to resign.

For a team that is rebuilding and playing the long game, I would rather have multiple first round picks that could be lottery picks and players on rookie deals for longer.
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governator wrote:
LakerMindLA wrote:
Palin wrote:
I think Lakers have better package than Clippers and Pelicans will come to senses after those guys out of AD sweepstakes and they will drop the Lakers hate to do right for the business.



Clippers' package could be more enticing to the Pelicans.

Landry Shamet
SGA (he is probably on a similar tier to Lonzo at this point)
Lou Williams (Can easily be moved for another 1st round pick)
2019 Clippers Lottery Pick, 2021 Clippers 1st round pick
2021 Miami Pick (Easily could be a lottery pick).

The advantage of that trade is you have players on their rookie contract for 3 more years instead of having to pay Ingram, Kuzma and Ball big money in 1 and 2 years.


But that 3 Lakers blue chip vs maybe 1 clippers blue chip is 1 season of SGA is enough for Pels... paying big money for a blue chip with 2-3 yrs of proven record worth much more than non-top 3 pick or unproven cheaper player


Something the clippers can do too is deal Galinari which will be a lucrative expiring salary while at the same time absorbing Jrue Holiday's contract, something I'm sure the Pelicans would consider since they are committed to pay him $26 million over the next four years. The Clippers would still be able to sign another star like Kawhi Leonard and have another $13 million in cap space or so

Thus the Clipper roster next year could be

Zubac
Davis
Kawhi
$13 Million Cap Space
Jrue Holiday
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adkindo wrote:
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Is singing another Klutcher really the best idea?


doesnt matter. why is kieff picking non playoff team in lakers over rockets?

ya we not making playoffs when lebron is in cruise mode


Rockets are pretty stacked at the big man spot, why would Markieff go there to ride the pine? Capela should be coming back soon and Faried has been balling out, there big man rotation is set with Capela/Faried/NeNe... if he comes here he will get a lot of minutes.


No we aren't. Nene is done and Faired is a backup C for us. Neither can be used as a PF in our system. We are lacking forwards, so much that Harden starts at the 3 now. Tucker is playing too many minutes. We've been playing Green and d-league dudes too much at the 3. He'd play over every forward but Tucker and maybe Shumpert.


you talking about defense? Cause you guys still just run that one man offense, right?


The one man offense should stop once Capela is back, assuming CP3 doesn't get hurt again (who knows on that one).
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