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Chronicle Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Chronicle wrote: | wait pelicans are being fined 100k per game they sit AD? lmao
why didn't they release that news earlier tho... could have helped the trade... |
I think that was more of a threat by the league before they came to an agreement. |
Agreement? what did I miss _________________ Kobe |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: |
Better to keep our two karat players who will likely become 3 or 4 karat players over the next five years... then trade them all for a window that is essentially meaningless if those super teams stay intact. |
There is no guarantee that they become that though. And I don't think Magic is looking at a 5 year window either.
The landscape will look so different.
How many people imagined that the East would have 4 of the top 5-6 teams in the NBA last summer? Nobody. |
I agree we don't know but if there are 7 or 8 elite teams... chances are at least four or five will remain similar or upgrade.
In order to go all in on AD... we have to win... there is no second option.
It's roll the dice for three years... and hope LBJ can stay young and that we can sign some unexpected players at a discount.
I'm just pointing out the likelihood of AD and LBJ beating teams with several quality players seems unlikely.
OKC will add Roberson... maybe Westbrook starts hitting shots.
Houston might finally get CP3 and Harden for a sustained period.
You know Boston will upgrade with all their assets... AD or not.
Denver will add MPJ and IT to an already strong team.
And this isn't even beginning to talk about the favorites that you guys listed.
If we can't win it all... we shouldn't do the trade on some 10% chance that we get lucky.
Just my opinion. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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Paragraphs...so difficult to read the spaced out thoughts. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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adkindo Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | People were saying we shouldn't deal with Boogie's drama... and I get that... but now there's no one you can sleep on in that lineup. |
I think what is happening with Cousins right now is mostly smoke and mirrors....the Warriors are simply good enough to allow him to get a few buckets and get by with his deficiencies. I think if they are able to get Robin Lopez on the buyout market, they will go to him more often if they get into any tough series in the playoffs.
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LakerSD Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | - KD praises Kuzma on that new “the Boardroom” show
- Kyrie praises Brandon Ingram during an interview (especially on his defense)
so actually athletes love the Lakers young core. but some check mark nerds who got picked last got NBA twitter drooling over those Boston kids lol |
https://twitter.com/haladjianchris/status/1095052169114353664?s=21 |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: |
Better to keep our two karat players who will likely become 3 or 4 karat players over the next five years... then trade them all for a window that is essentially meaningless if those super teams stay intact. |
There is no guarantee that they become that though. And I don't think Magic is looking at a 5 year window either.
The landscape will look so different.
How many people imagined that the East would have 4 of the top 5-6 teams in the NBA last summer? Nobody. |
I agree we don't know but if there are 7 or 8 elite teams... chances are at least four or five will remain similar or upgrade.
In order to go all in on AD... we have to win... there is no second option.
It's roll the dice for three years... and hope LBJ can stay young and that we can sign some unexpected players at a discount.
I'm just pointing out the likelihood of AD and LBJ beating teams with several quality players seems unlikely.
OKC will add Roberson... maybe Westbrook starts hitting shots.
Houston might finally get CP3 and Harden for a sustained period.
You know Boston will upgrade with all their assets... AD or not.
Denver will add MPJ and IT to an already strong team.
And this isn't even beginning to talk about the favorites that you guys listed.
If we can't win it all... we shouldn't do the trade on some 10% chance that we get lucky.
Just my opinion. |
You know the trade deadline passed?
We have no idea what the NBA landscape will be for the next season. Look at how the NBA has shifted to the East unexpectedly this year. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
I don’t think the Celtics are a top team. |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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adkindo wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | People were saying we shouldn't deal with Boogie's drama... and I get that... but now there's no one you can sleep on in that lineup. |
I think what is happening with Cousins right now is mostly smoke and mirrors....the Warriors are simply good enough to allow him to get a few buckets and get by with his deficiencies. I think if they are able to get Robin Lopez on the buyout market, they will go to him more often if they get into any tough series in the playoffs. |
It only makes sense if they can win with injured Bogut, Pachulia, Looney... that even an impaired Boogie would make it that much harder.
In European soccer they have what is called a luxury player... who is sometimes lazy or weak but very skilled with the football.
Boogie is GSW's luxury player... on a weak team... he might be a fatal flaw... but on a good team... he might be the x factor that makes an important shot.
But I do agree they might close out using a player like Lopez.
But my point was sometimes you sign someone like IT or Boogie who can go off and score 20 points on any given night. Especially if you are already deep.
Better than some journeyman who works hard but has almost no chance of doing so. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
I would have OKC behind GS. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Sentient Meat Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | Sentient Meat wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | Quote: |
Better to keep our two karat players who will likely become 3 or 4 karat players over the next five years... then trade them all for a window that is essentially meaningless if those super teams stay intact. |
There is no guarantee that they become that though. And I don't think Magic is looking at a 5 year window either.
The landscape will look so different.
How many people imagined that the East would have 4 of the top 5-6 teams in the NBA last summer? Nobody. |
I agree we don't know but if there are 7 or 8 elite teams... chances are at least four or five will remain similar or upgrade.
In order to go all in on AD... we have to win... there is no second option.
It's roll the dice for three years... and hope LBJ can stay young and that we can sign some unexpected players at a discount.
I'm just pointing out the likelihood of AD and LBJ beating teams with several quality players seems unlikely.
OKC will add Roberson... maybe Westbrook starts hitting shots.
Houston might finally get CP3 and Harden for a sustained period.
You know Boston will upgrade with all their assets... AD or not.
Denver will add MPJ and IT to an already strong team.
And this isn't even beginning to talk about the favorites that you guys listed.
If we can't win it all... we shouldn't do the trade on some 10% chance that we get lucky.
Just my opinion. |
You know the trade deadline passed?
We have no idea what the NBA landscape will be for the next season. Look at how the NBA has shifted to the East unexpectedly this year. |
I agreed... I simply said that with so many rising teams... chances are that although some will decline as you said... some will also rise.
It's not a two team landscape. We cannot leave things to chance if we are trading everyone. Going all in... with the hope all 8 teams will be left in disarray. |
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Bard207 Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | lakersken80 wrote: | It'll be interesting to see who comes out of the east in the Post LBJ era....seems like all the top teams are fortifying their lineups for the playoffs. |
Strangely enough, if LBJ had stayed, could he have beaten these up and coming teams?
Toronto-KL a good match for LBJ
Boston-depth and waves of guys to throw at LBJ
76ers-top end depth, basically 4 all star level players.
Bucks-Giannis, with Middleton and 2 shooting big men.
I think he fortuitously left before having to battle these guys to make it deep in the EC. |
There was chatter that LeBron & Co wanted Cleveland to trade the pick from the Irving trade for immediate help. Cleveland would do that only if LeBron would make a firm promise to stay for the 2018 - 19 season.
LeBron wouldn't make that promise, so he was already considering an exit strategy from Cleveland. |
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kikanga Retired Number
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
Uh. No.
It's Warriors, 76ers, Raptors, Bucks, OKC, and then... maybe.... Celtics. But there is a good argument to put Denver in front of Boston too. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | So is there any word on Markieff’s neck? |
News on him will break fast once it's available. He would probably have the most interest of any buyout candidate if healthy. Unless Jordan gets bought out. |
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LKA Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:13 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
Uh. No.
It's Warriors, 76ers, Raptors, Bucks, OKC, and then... maybe.... Celtics. But there is a good argument to put Denver in front of Boston too. |
Denver ain’t forreal, they’ll fold before the WCF |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Dreamshake wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | So is there any word on Markieff’s neck? |
News on him will break fast once it's available. He would probably have the most interest of any buyout candidate if healthy. Unless Jordan gets bought out. |
I see the Celtics having interest in him since his brother Marcus plays for the Celtics, Lakers do need another big body so I think Lakers are targeting Kanter or Markieff.
I think DeAndre Jordan will be Houston bound if he gets bought out which will be huge for you guys. |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes
Free agent forward Markieff Morris visited Dr. Watkins today in Los Angeles regarding his neck and has been cleared to play, his agent Rich Paul tells Yahoo Sports. |
Sign him Magic. |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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eureca wrote: | Quote: | Chris Haynes @ChrisBHaynes
Free agent forward Markieff Morris visited Dr. Watkins today in Los Angeles regarding his neck and has been cleared to play, his agent Rich Paul tells Yahoo Sports. |
Sign him Magic. |
Yes...asap! |
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PHILosophize Franchise Player
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is there any remaining doubt as to whether Haynes is Klutch's mouthpiece? _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way |
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ShowtimeReturns Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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kikanga wrote: | MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
Uh. No.
It's Warriors, 76ers, Raptors, Bucks, OKC, and then... maybe.... Celtics. But there is a good argument to put Denver in front of Boston too. |
Sixers look extremely good Tobias Harris has pushed them to another level He's playing better than Jimmy Butler |
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King Randle Star Player
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | So is there any word on Markieff’s neck? |
News on him will break fast once it's available. He would probably have the most interest of any buyout candidate if healthy. Unless Jordan gets bought out. |
I see the Celtics having interest in him since his brother Marcus plays for the Celtics, Lakers do need another big body so I think Lakers are targeting Kanter or Markieff.
I think DeAndre Jordan will be Houston bound if he gets bought out which will be huge for you guys. |
Markieff is number one for me. If he doesn't come here IMO I honestly would take Gortat over Kanter since we need a big body to D up.
It was reported last week that NY is not going to buy out Jordan unless something changed. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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King Randle wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | So is there any word on Markieff’s neck? |
News on him will break fast once it's available. He would probably have the most interest of any buyout candidate if healthy. Unless Jordan gets bought out. |
I see the Celtics having interest in him since his brother Marcus plays for the Celtics, Lakers do need another big body so I think Lakers are targeting Kanter or Markieff.
I think DeAndre Jordan will be Houston bound if he gets bought out which will be huge for you guys. |
Markieff is number one for me. If he doesn't come here IMO I honestly would take Gortat over Kanter since we need a big body to D up.
It was reported last week that NY is not going to buy out Jordan unless something changed. |
Gortat is kinda washed up, I prefer Kanter or Markieff. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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C'mon Markieff! |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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Inspector Gadget wrote: | King Randle wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | Dreamshake wrote: | Inspector Gadget wrote: | So is there any word on Markieff’s neck? |
News on him will break fast once it's available. He would probably have the most interest of any buyout candidate if healthy. Unless Jordan gets bought out. |
I see the Celtics having interest in him since his brother Marcus plays for the Celtics, Lakers do need another big body so I think Lakers are targeting Kanter or Markieff.
I think DeAndre Jordan will be Houston bound if he gets bought out which will be huge for you guys. |
Markieff is number one for me. If he doesn't come here IMO I honestly would take Gortat over Kanter since we need a big body to D up.
It was reported last week that NY is not going to buy out Jordan unless something changed. |
Gortat is kinda washed up, I prefer Kanter or Markieff. |
me too, Gortat is more of a traditional center, and we just traded away one in Zu, so i don't think lakers gonna make a run at Gortat. |
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:41 pm Post subject: |
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LKA wrote: | kikanga wrote: | MJST wrote: | It's now
Warriors
Philadelphia
Toronto
Celtics
In terms of top 4 teams, and then Houston right behind that along with Denver. |
Uh. No.
It's Warriors, 76ers, Raptors, Bucks, OKC, and then... maybe.... Celtics. But there is a good argument to put Denver in front of Boston too. |
Denver ain’t forreal, they’ll fold before the WCF |
Hopefully to us. Fingers crossed. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better” |
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