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Jesusdelonla
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| mhan00 wrote: |
If his only hope of playing time is praying a guy in front of him gets hurt, that’s not exactly a good chance to showcase himself. Hell, forgot about THT, who the Lakers are apparently high on and want to get some playing time this season. If Mudiay wants to sit in the bench for a ring ala Cook that might be appealing to him, but the idea he’d come to raise his value is pretty funny. |
sitting on bench for world Champion >>> playing in china |
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Mike@LG
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| Megaton wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Pass on Delon Wright or Rose. I love Delon, but not at the price of taking away Caruso's PT.
No one worth getting from DET in the first place really, unless it's future picks. |
The only idea I liked that I heard here as far as trading Kuzma, was to NY for Mitchell Robinson. Considering it fills the need for a long term Center next to Anthony Davis...and he’s a klutch client.  |
Yup. NYK wants CAA guys.
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| babyskyhook wrote: | | governator wrote: | | babyskyhook wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | babyskyhook wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | AD extension! The goal for building our future team around AD should be
1. Internal player development
2. Making most of limited drafted capital (We need a repeat of Hart/Kuz/Bonga/Wanger/Zubac)
3. Finding diamonds in the rough on the free agent market in the future (Shaq Harrison
The Tim Duncan/Spurs method. |
Time to buy some 2nd rd picks. |
Just naming the guys the Lakers have hit on with late 1st/2nd round picks is amazing. Will need more of the same going forward. We already have a great core to build on post LeBron with AD/Trezz/Kuz/KCP/Schroder/THT/Caruso
Jordan Clarkson
Larry Nance
Kyle Kuzma
Josh Hart
Mo Wagner
Ivicia Zubac
Issac Bonga
Imagine adding 2-3 of those caliber guys to our team over the next couple drafts. |
Exactly. Perfect young, energetic role players on cheap contracts. |
Are y’all sure they cheap? |
They are when they’re on their rookie deals.
And if they turn out to be good players, you have their bird rights and can pay them or use them to construct trades.
Having talented players on rookie deals is gold in the NBA. |
100% and we traded ours for the ultimate price, a 26yr old HOFamer |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Pass on Delon Wright or Rose. I love Delon, but not at the price of taking away Caruso's PT.
No one worth getting from DET in the first place really, unless it's future picks. |
The only idea I liked that I heard here as far as trading Kuzma, was to NY for Mitchell Robinson. Considering it fills the need for a long term Center next to Anthony Davis...and he’s a klutch client. |
Yup. NYK wants CAA guys. |
I think a tall wing, which we’re still hoping can turn his shot around (full year with the new stroke?) is more valuable/harder to find than a rim protector with zero range outside of 3 feet. Couldn’t we just trade for Noel?
I’d rather do Kuz for Ntilikina/Noel than Robinson |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: |
If his only hope of playing time is praying a guy in front of him gets hurt, that’s not exactly a good chance to showcase himself. Hell, forgot about THT, who the Lakers are apparently high on and want to get some playing time this season. If Mudiay wants to sit in the bench for a ring ala Cook that might be appealing to him, but the idea he’d come to raise his value is pretty funny. |
sitting on bench for world Champion >>> playing in china |
I suspect he would take us over China, if only because the money is better. My guess is he and he agent are still beating the bushes to find a spot on a team where he has a better chance of playing than with us. Playing time is really the only thing that could raise his value at this point in his career. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Pass on Delon Wright or Rose. I love Delon, but not at the price of taking away Caruso's PT.
No one worth getting from DET in the first place really, unless it's future picks. |
The only idea I liked that I heard here as far as trading Kuzma, was to NY for Mitchell Robinson. Considering it fills the need for a long term Center next to Anthony Davis...and he’s a klutch client. |
Yup. NYK wants CAA guys. |
I think a tall wing, which we’re still hoping can turn his shot around (full year with the new stroke?) is more valuable/harder to find than a rim protector with zero range outside of 3 feet. Couldn’t we just trade for Noel?
I’d rather do Kuz for Ntilikina/Noel than Robinson |
MRob is one of those 5s that can defend the perimeter and lead the league in perimeter blocked shots, including 3 point shots. That's the big appeal.
Noel derailed his career. MRob still has a chance.
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Pass on Delon Wright or Rose. I love Delon, but not at the price of taking away Caruso's PT.
No one worth getting from DET in the first place really, unless it's future picks. |
The only idea I liked that I heard here as far as trading Kuzma, was to NY for Mitchell Robinson. Considering it fills the need for a long term Center next to Anthony Davis...and he’s a klutch client. |
Yup. NYK wants CAA guys. |
I think a tall wing, which we’re still hoping can turn his shot around (full year with the new stroke?) is more valuable/harder to find than a rim protector with zero range outside of 3 feet. Couldn’t we just trade for Noel?
I’d rather do Kuz for Ntilikina/Noel than Robinson |
Kuzma for Noel and Frank isn’t equal of what we can get for Kuzma in a trade, that’s settling the bar very low, you can argue that Ntilikina has been a bust so far and the only thing that he brings is defense which is what we are already getting in Schroeder and Caruso. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | Pass on Delon Wright or Rose. I love Delon, but not at the price of taking away Caruso's PT.
No one worth getting from DET in the first place really, unless it's future picks. |
The only idea I liked that I heard here as far as trading Kuzma, was to NY for Mitchell Robinson. Considering it fills the need for a long term Center next to Anthony Davis...and he’s a klutch client. |
Yup. NYK wants CAA guys. |
I think a tall wing, which we’re still hoping can turn his shot around (full year with the new stroke?) is more valuable/harder to find than a rim protector with zero range outside of 3 feet. Couldn’t we just trade for Noel?
I’d rather do Kuz for Ntilikina/Noel than Robinson |
Kuzma for Noel and Frank isn’t equal of what we can get for Kuzma in a trade, that’s settling the bar very low, you can argue that Ntilikina has been a bust so far and the only thing that he brings is defense which is what we are already getting in Schroeder and Caruso. |
I was just thinking of replacing the wing defense. Schroeder and Caruso are not guarding anyone over 6’3.
Didn’t know they had Omari Spellman. I know our scouting dept liked him once upon a time. His shooting numbers aren’t bad and his block and steal rates are surprising. |
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Kuzma, Caruso and Cacok for Robinson and Ntilikina/Smith 
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | Kuzma, Caruso and Cacok for Robinson and Ntilikina |
(bleep) no. |
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Hmm.. Trez, Dennis, KCP, Kuzma.. all relatively young. A combination of those guys and some picks, or let Freak walk for nothing? If I'm the Bucks I'd make a deal. |
I wouldn't make that deal, if I were the Bucks.
Trez, Dennis, and Kuzma can all leave after this year. So if the Bucks traded for them, they don't know if they'll stay.
If these guys stayed with the Bucks, they'd all want big salaries. KCP is already being paid over market value. They're relatively young, but they're not cheap, and it's debatable how much upside any of them have.
I think that deal would just cap them out at long-term nothing-special-ness. I'd say no, and try to get Giannis to stay or look for a better deal. I wouldn't give him an easy route to the Lakers. |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: |
Kuzma for Noel and Frank isn’t equal of what we can get for Kuzma in a trade, that’s settling the bar very low, you can argue that Ntilikina has been a bust so far and the only thing that he brings is defense which is what we are already getting in Schroeder and Caruso. |
I'm not sure what Kuz's trade value is at this point. Guess the only way we'll find out is if the Lakers trade him. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Megaton wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Kuzma, Caruso and Cacok for Robinson and Ntilikina/Smith |
Caruso? Are you high? Take him out and ill do it.
Although Nitilkina is garbage so take him out too. Smith even worse. |
Caruso was definitely valuable off the bench and ran the bench unit well.
Stats wise last year
Caruso: 5/2/2 1.1 STLs on 18 MPG 41% Field Goal 33% Three Pointer
Nitilkina: 6/2/3 0.9 STLs on 20 MPG 39% Field Goal 32% Three Pointer
Smith Jr: 5/2/3 0.8 STLs on 15 MPG 34% Field Goal 30% Three Pointer
Not too far off, but for some reason Nitilkina is said to have a defensive upside, and Smith Jr was dealing with personal losses as well as getting his role constantly changed or taken away throughout the season after averaging 15 PPG on 41% the previous season.
Either way, both of them were in horrid situations in comparison, I didn't expect the stats to be so similar though. Dennis Smith Jr I do believe if he was given a consistent role could be a solid 6th man at the point guard position. Nitilkina at best at this point would be a defensive point guard that isn't asked to do much else off a bench.
But Caruso is reliable despite what his stats would lead one to believe and he worked well with our bench.
The coup of that deal however would be locking down Mitchell Robinson more so than Smith or Nitilkina though. Of course we wouldn't need to worry about that had we drafted Robinson over Wagner in the first place 
Post was more of a joke though
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I’ll be honest, Kuz for MRob isn’t really realistic. One, MRob has greater value, and two, it leaves us with a center logjam
If we trade Kuz, it needs to be for a more bonafide 3&D wing
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| alleyoop wrote: | I’ll be honest, Kuz for MRob isn’t really realistic. One, MRob has greater value, and two, it leaves us with a center logjam
If we trade Kuz, it needs to be for a more bonafide 3&D wing |
Well a 3 and D Wing... depending on how much THT has improved we may have one.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Q Cook is back boys |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Free agent Quinn Cook has re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | Free agent Quinn Cook has re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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Ocho bomb!
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You know. Ill take it. He's a true Lakers fan. Great for the lockeroom and a champion.
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| ocho wrote: | | Quote: | | Free agent Quinn Cook has re-signed with the Los Angeles Lakers. |
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This shows such professionalism in the FO and in Laker culture. I admit I was scanning horizon like crazy for high upside dudes but when you really think about who is going to crack this 10 man rotation we have going, it is much smarter to keep continuity. Cook is absolutely fine as a third-string ballhandler and shooter.
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| So we have 1 roster spot left right? |
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Jesusdelonla
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| Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 4:08 pm Post subject: |
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| AirTupac wrote: | | You know. Ill take it. He's a true Lakers fan. Great for the lockeroom and a champion. |
BFF with our stars too. so ill take it |
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| Quote: | | LeBron said the other day on @RoadTrippinPod that he hoped Quinn Cook would be back with the Lakers. |
https://mobile.twitter.com/kylegoon/status/1335011293892206593
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | So we have 1 roster spot left right? |
Yes. We’d be wise to leave it open.
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