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Dr. Laker
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | well i have to make a guess that KCP, Morris are "ready to go" and we are exploring other options by a deadline and will pull the trigger when that deadline happens.
i mean, LBJ, AD, Trez, KCP and THT are all rich paul clients, i'd be utterly shocked if rich paul screws us on this. |
Rich Paul is the CEO of Klutch.
LeBron James is the owner of Klutch.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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I would be shocked if KCP isn't back.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | KingKobe20 wrote: | | PHILosophize wrote: | | re-sign KCP, sign Gasol |
Yup
KCP
Wes
Lebron
AD
Gasol
Bench:
Dennis
Caruso
Kumza
TREZZ
Javale/Boogie
Possible Closing Lineup:
KCP
Caruso
Lebron
Trezz
AD
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If we could nab Gasol for the minimum, I’d be ecstatic. Putting him at C and Trezz at PF is the perfect combo IMO (we certainly need a stretch big to pair with Trezz now)
PG: Bron - Schroder
SG: KCP - Caruso
SF: Matthews - Kuzma
PF: Davis - Harrell
C: McGee - Gasol |
Plus to cover for Trez’s lack of defense |
Trez is a above average defender with a DPM of .5 this year, and .7 last year. He got dinged this year because he was often playing with either Jamychal or PG playing PF, and he was the only big on the floor
By comparison, Kuzma had a -1.0 DPM this year, and a -1.2 last year.
People need to stop with the "Trez is a bad defender" nonsense. Yes, we all know he's not good against the Joker - but, not many are.
Other than that, Trez is a pretty good defender with lots of effort, who'll probably get a lot better under Vogel.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:26 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | How much do you think Kieff Morris is going to get in this market? His brother just got 4 years $64M. |
A lot of people think the big Morris contract hurt the Lakers, I think it might have helped. Are they still roommates? They are super close. That might be contract for both of them. LOL! Marcus to Markieff, "Get what you can, but don't worry. I got you." |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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John Hollinger on the Bucks:
| Quote: | While you were all talking about Gordon Hayward (my initial thoughts are under separate cover here and I’ll have more on this in the morning), the Milwaukee Bucks were busy making a fraught free agency weekend take another bad turn.
As I mentioned in an earlier missive (scroll down), the Bucks originally agreed to a two-year, $8 million deal with Pat Connaughton that included a second-year player option. Only one problem: As an Early Bird Rights player, Connaughton wasn’t eligible to receive a second-year player option on his deal.
As a result, the Bucks (almost certainly) would have had to go back to his agent with hat in hand and request a different arrangement. That’s why a new arrangement for Connaughton was reported later this afternoon. This time they ended up paying twice as much money, to do a three-year deal worth $16 million.
Wait, it gets worse. Despite the error, the Bucks didn’t even need to do the second part. They could have signed Connaughton to the original with their midlevel exception. Yes, they had already agreed to a sign D.J. Augustin to a three-year, $21 million deal with their midlevel exception, but this was also unnecessary.
Augustin’s contract, as it turns out, would have fit snugly into the Jrue Holiday trade with New Orleans as a sign-and-trade if they had either A) started him slightly lower at $6.33 million (for a three-year deal worth $19.5 million or B) included two-way Cam Reynolds in a sign-and-trade back as part of the deal.
They would have had to work out a sign-and-trade with Orlando, but doing so would have been favorable to the Magic as well, generating a $7 million trade exception for the Magic. (Indeed, it is equally bizarre that the Magic did not pursue this angle with more vigor). Orlando would have just needed to send the rights to Janis Timma to New Orleans to complete this, and if they needed cash to pay Reynolds’ salary they could have asked nicely and got it. Doing it this way would have hard-capped the Bucks, but using their full midlevel exception hard capped them anyway, so no loss.
Of course, the bigger issue is that they shouldn’t have stepped in it in Connaughton’s deal in the first place. This is part of a worrying free agency trend in Milwaukee. Last offseason they missed out on generating a $10 million trade exception from the Malcolm Brogdon sign-and-trade (think that might have been useful this week?) by not distributing George Hill’s guaranteed money slightly differently or using incentives on his or Brook Lopez’s contract. And a week ago, of course, they (or others involved) botched the sign-and-trade with Bogdan Bogdanovic when news of it leaked out inappropriately early.
None of this is necessarily a death knell for the Bucks: They had the NBA’s best record the past two seasons. But if they’re going to maximize the prime years of Giannis Antetokoumnpo and Khris Middleton, they can’t keep leaving money on the table when they manage the cap. |
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| Out of curiosity, who would be insane enough to take Rozier's 19 million dollar contract from Charlotte, considering we know he's out of there |
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nomoreshaq
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
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| Dr. Laker wrote: | | 32 wrote: | | (bleep) the clippers. |
I second the motion. |
Third. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
You forgot Montrezl Harrell. lol
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
And Harrell |
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nomoreshaq
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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| eagles nut wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
And Harrell |
dammit lol.
McGee/Harrell/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 13, add 1 more.
Trez, Caruso, KCP, Kuz, Morris off the bench is sick |
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I think McGee's salary is going to have to come off the books in order for us to pay KCP his fair market value. I think he would stay here unless the Knicks have a far superior offer, and if you are asking KCP to take $10MM when the Knicks may offer $15MM (not to mention more years), that might be too big of a gap to overcome. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
KCP is without question starting if he comes back imo
You forgot Trez as well? He will be backing up the 4-5 so not sure if Morris will want to come back but i'd love it if he agreed to it! I wouldn't mind seeing Boogie getting this spot either as it would allow us to have a great option but still bring him along overly slow and cautiously throughout the entire season.
Get the best defensive sf we can get for the minimum and that's a scary roster to say the least.
I'm really hoping we get Gasol though, I have a feeling we get a motivated version that goes all out to get that one last chip. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| ocho wrote: | | John Hollinger on the Bucks: |
Both our GMs are better, U kno Giannis is reading this article |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
And Harrell |
dammit lol.
McGee/Harrell/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 13, add 1 more.
Trez, Caruso, KCP, Kuz, Morris off the bench is sick |
McGee or Gasol would be on the bench. I would add Batum if possible.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| nomoreshaq wrote: | | eagles nut wrote: | | nomoreshaq wrote: | McGee/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 12, add 1 or 2 more vet mins. |
And Harrell |
dammit lol.
McGee/Harrell/Gasol
AD/Morris/Dudley
LBJ/Kuz
Matthews/KCP
Schroeder/Caruso/THT
There's our 13, add 1 more.
Trez, Caruso, KCP, Kuz, Morris off the bench is sick |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:48 pm Post subject: |
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You guys think Wes Matthews is going to start for Danny Green?
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Tristan to the Celtics, damn the Clips have no options left. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Tristan Thompson to Celtics |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Free agent center Tristan Thompson has reached an agreement with the Boston Celtics, his agent @RichPaul4 of @KlutchSports tells Yahoo Sports. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Tristan Thompson has reached an agreement with the Celtics, per @ChrisBHaynes |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:51 pm Post subject: |
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| 32 wrote: | | You guys think Wes Matthews is going to start for Danny Green? |
Yes and he should IMO
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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TT got the MLE from Boston. So glad that wasn't us as I had a weird suspicion on it 
| Quote: | | Tristan Thompson is going to the Celtics on a two-year, $19 million deal, a source tells the @TheAthleticNBA |
https://twitter.com/joevardon/status/1330312925664456704
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| Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Ariza, RHJ, Craig for the last spot. We need a defensive wing.....badly |
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