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drae
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
Should have kept Hart, he is a winner. |
JASON Hart: 42.5% from the field (below average)
35.9% from 3 (pretty much average)
10 points in 28 minutes
Screams "winner" to me ... |
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| When they lost Malcolm Brogdan, I didn't think the Bucks would be as good this year, but I don't think anybody predicted Kris Middleton would turn in a 50/40/90 season either. To be exact it's 50.8, 44.3 and 90.5. That's KD and Steve Nash type shooting efficiency. Not to mention 6 boards and 4 assists. That was a max well spent so far. |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | When they lost Malcolm Brogdan, I didn't think the Bucks would be as good this year, but I don't think anybody predicted Kris Middleton would turn in a 50/40/90 season either. To be exact it's 50.8, 44.3 and 90.5. That's KD and Steve Nash type shooting efficiency. Not to mention 6 boards and 4 assists. That was a max well spent so far. |
Its insane how efficient he is. A cheat code, very underrated. |
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alleyoop
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Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet
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drae
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yep  Hart has hardly any value except comedic relief |
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| Posted: Mon Feb 24, 2020 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Runway8 wrote: | | When they lost Malcolm Brogdan, I didn't think the Bucks would be as good this year, but I don't think anybody predicted Kris Middleton would turn in a 50/40/90 season either. To be exact it's 50.8, 44.3 and 90.5. That's KD and Steve Nash type shooting efficiency. Not to mention 6 boards and 4 assists. That was a max well spent so far. |
Very good numbers.
I think bucks fans were upset that his numbers dropped in the playoffs last year though.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 25, 2020 1:59 am Post subject: |
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| alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yes, this is accurate. What sucked about the deal was not even necessarily the first round picks, but the pick swaps, which basically made it so that we couldn't trade a first round pick at this year's deadline. We'll have to wait until after we make our pick this year to be able to trade it. |
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AFireInside619
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Just a heads up. Pels fans want Bradley Beal this off season. And they have the pieces and picks to do it. Zion, Ingram, and Beal scares me as a Lakers fan.
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alleyoop
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Just a heads up. Pels fans want Bradley Beal this off season. And they have the pieces and picks to do it. Zion, Ingram, and Beal scares me as a Lakers fan. |
I’m assuming Holiday would be a part of the package. What young pieces would the Wizards want? Lonzo? Hayes? NAW?
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alleyoop
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yes, this is accurate. What sucked about the deal was not even necessarily the first round picks, but the pick swaps, which basically made it so that we couldn't trade a first round pick at this year's deadline. We'll have to wait until after we make our pick this year to be able to trade it. |
Won’t we be able to agree to a deal involving our first before we’re allowed to move it? Kinda like what we did with pick 4 last year in the AD deal?
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drae
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The Wizards aren't giving up Beal for anything less than a future star. Ball, Hayes, and NAW don't cut it  |
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| drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Should have kept Hart, he is a winner. |
JASON Hart: 42.5% from the field (below average)
35.9% from 3 (pretty much average)
10 points in 28 minutes
Screams "winner" to me ... |
you mean Josh |
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alleyoop
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| drae wrote: | | The Wizards aren't giving up Beal for anything less than a future star. Ball, Hayes, and NAW don't cut it |
Well I don’t see why the Pels would accept BI or Zion for Beal, so that deal probably doesn’t happen then
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| Hero Ball wrote: | | drae wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Should have kept Hart, he is a winner. |
JASON Hart: 42.5% from the field (below average)
35.9% from 3 (pretty much average)
10 points in 28 minutes
Screams "winner" to me ... |
you mean Josh |
Stop mangling Jason's name |
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| noahp45 wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Dr. Laker wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | I still see value in Danny Green during the playoffs. |
So do I, he's still an extremely valuable 3&D vet come crunch time
Unless we're getting someone like a Dinwiddie/Oubre/somehow LaVine back I don't think we'll trade him |
Who knows. He will also be 33 next year on an expiring. So he will have to be the salary ballast for the team to find a 3rd guy alongside LBJ/AD. |
He wins a chip in Los Angeles, then we package him for Zach Lavine this summer. |
I still doubt Green/Kuz/1st is enough of a package for LaVine, even if we add Caruso and THT I doubt they accept
They'll want a relatively high pick in this year's draft IMO |
Kuzma becomes a restricted free agent after next year. People need to get over the notion that he is some super-cheap asset that other teams are pining to get. His career has trended downward from his rookie season. |
Wish we could have kept Ball and sent put Kuz
I think kuz will put it together in the playoffs. Teams will game plan on Bron and AD. Kuzz should be able to go off |
Far more likely for a player in his first playoffs to struggle than it is for them to thrive. Playoffs are a different intensity, and most importantly teams put their whole attention on their opponent and game plan against them. Hopefully you’re right and Kuzma steps up, but he hasn’t really shown it yet. |
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I think kuz will put it together in the playoffs. Teams will game plan on Bron and AD. Kuzz should be able to go off |
Seems unlikely to me that Kuz will get into his first playoffs ever and perform at a dramatically higher level. I'm not expecting anything special out of him. But we shall see |
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| activeverb wrote: | | noahp45 wrote: |
I think kuz will put it together in the playoffs. Teams will game plan on Bron and AD. Kuzz should be able to go off |
Seems unlikely to me that Kuz will get into his first playoffs ever and perform at a dramatically higher level. I'm not expecting anything special out of him. But we shall see |
Personally expecting just an average playoff performance, between 11-15ppg, which should still be a good impact for what we need. He’ll have 3 or 4 playoff games where he goes off for decent numbers, think he’ll be respected for that
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| drae wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
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Yep Hart has hardly any value except comedic relief |
Pot calling the kettle black.
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| alleyoop wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yes, this is accurate. What sucked about the deal was not even necessarily the first round picks, but the pick swaps, which basically made it so that we couldn't trade a first round pick at this year's deadline. We'll have to wait until after we make our pick this year to be able to trade it. |
Won’t we be able to agree to a deal involving our first before we’re allowed to move it? Kinda like what we did with pick 4 last year in the AD deal? |
No
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| Runway8 wrote: | | When they lost Malcolm Brogdan, I didn't think the Bucks would be as good this year, but I don't think anybody predicted Kris Middleton would turn in a 50/40/90 season either. To be exact it's 50.8, 44.3 and 90.5. That's KD and Steve Nash type shooting efficiency. Not to mention 6 boards and 4 assists. That was a max well spent so far. |
He absolutely disappears in the playoffs. When Giannis needed him most he was MIA.
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | Just a heads up. Pels fans want Bradley Beal this off season. And they have the pieces and picks to do it. Zion, Ingram, and Beal scares me as a Lakers fan. |
We've been hearing about Beal to the Pelicans for years and years. If it happens it happens. I see no reason to get worked up about next offseason at this point |
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| I think most the people posting here need to move over to the piss and moan thread... please! |
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| alleyoop wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yes, this is accurate. What sucked about the deal was not even necessarily the first round picks, but the pick swaps, which basically made it so that we couldn't trade a first round pick at this year's deadline. We'll have to wait until after we make our pick this year to be able to trade it. |
Won’t we be able to agree to a deal involving our first before we’re allowed to move it? Kinda like what we did with pick 4 last year in the AD deal? |
Sure, we could make a deal where we agreed to draft a player another team wanted and include him in the deal. The negativevto that is the deal is not officially consumated until the draft so teams can back out. |
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AB/Rondo/Caruso
Green/KCP/Cook
LeBron/Kuzma/Dion/THT
AD/Morris/Dudley
JaVale/Dwight
Not bad at all fellas |
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| activeverb wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | alleyoop wrote: | Eh, keeping Hart wasn't life or death. If the Pels wanted him, fine, it was never going to be a great loss to us
The kind of player that's easily replaceable with a cheap vet |
Yes, this is accurate. What sucked about the deal was not even necessarily the first round picks, but the pick swaps, which basically made it so that we couldn't trade a first round pick at this year's deadline. We'll have to wait until after we make our pick this year to be able to trade it. |
Won’t we be able to agree to a deal involving our first before we’re allowed to move it? Kinda like what we did with pick 4 last year in the AD deal? |
Sure, we could make a deal where we agreed to draft a player another team wanted and include him in the deal. The negativevto that is the deal is not officially consumated until the draft so teams can back out. |
And that player might not be there when we draft. And who gives up good assets for a 29th pick?
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