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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:12 am    Post subject:

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Walter White has both talent and chemistry and still lost.


I saw the ending of Breaking Bad differently. Walter White killed all his enemies while his own wife and son (and Jesse) survived. He won imo.
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Karl Malone injury says hi too...dude had more talent in his elbow than most players today.

This chemistry narrative is a wild one. I understand why Rob would have a hard time addressing the trade deadline and personnel in general after he lost his guy...but that just shines the light on our FO even more in bringing in more folks. If Rob can’t do it for whatever reason, we got other folks in the FO that can.

@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000

Beal seems very gettable and would still be young enough to pair with AD.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:20 am    Post subject:

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Walter White has both talent and chemistry and still lost.


I saw the ending of Breaking Bad differently. Walter White killed all his enemies while his own wife and son (and Jesse) survived. He won imo.


OT:

If you see that victory for him...I won't argue.

The truth is he lost the moment he walked the path he chose.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:32 am    Post subject:

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Karl Malone injury says hi too...dude had more talent in his elbow than most players today.

This chemistry narrative is a wild one. I understand why Rob would have a hard time addressing the trade deadline and personnel in general after he lost his guy...but that just shines the light on our FO even more in bringing in more folks. If Rob can’t do it for whatever reason, we got other folks in the FO that can.

I think you are saying that:

-- To you, chemistry doesn't matter.
-- Once Pelinka should have made a trade, ANY trade, for whomever, because ANY trade is better than no trade. (I call this the "Adolescent Sports Team Management" approach, which adults normally outgrow.)

Personally, I think that chemistry can matter, but there also comes a time in all playoff series when teams need to rely on their superstars to will them to victory. And the Lakers have 2 most excellent superstars.

To your 2nd point, there are also times when depth is critical. Case in point: last year's finals. GS lost 2 top players and could not recover despite the presence of 2 other stars, plus chemistry borne of a few years of playing together. And I agree, this is where the Lakers may fall short this year, especially when compared to the Clippers. But the FO made the bet that the players they have now (plus any they can possibly acquire after buyouts) are worth riding with this season. You may disagree, but it's a reasonable strategy given the success they've had.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:34 am    Post subject:

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Walter White has both talent and chemistry and still lost.


I saw the ending of Breaking Bad differently. Walter White killed all his enemies while his own wife and son (and Jesse) survived. He won imo.


I can dig that
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject:

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Chemistry is gonna sign that 2021 max deal.


The Lakers Chemistry is amazing. Win or lose, I’m riding with these guys. The organization has been through a lot. Rob, Jeanie, Judy, Allison, Lebron, AD, Dwight, Handy, Rondo, Kuz, and all on down the line.


awww ❤️

too bad chemistry don't win titles. talent does.


2004 NBA Finals says , as do the 2011, 2014 and several others.


Championships are won with defense right? That Pistons team was as TALENTED as they come on the defensive side.


That Lakers team had FOUR Hall of Famers.

Even with Malone hurt, they should've smashed Detroit. Kobe's case notwithstanding, Payton was unhappy with the offense, Malone and Kobe had beef, Shaq & Kobe had issues, Dr. Buss had beef with Phil & Shaq.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:54 am    Post subject:

Dr. Laker wrote:
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Mamba81 wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Chemistry is gonna sign that 2021 max deal.


The Lakers Chemistry is amazing. Win or lose, I’m riding with these guys. The organization has been through a lot. Rob, Jeanie, Judy, Allison, Lebron, AD, Dwight, Handy, Rondo, Kuz, and all on down the line.


awww ❤️

too bad chemistry don't win titles. talent does.


2004 NBA Finals says , as do the 2011, 2014 and several others.


Championships are won with defense right? That Pistons team was as TALENTED as they come on the defensive side.


That Lakers team had FOUR Hall of Famers.

Even with Malone hurt, they should've smashed Detroit. Kobe's case notwithstanding, Payton was unhappy with the offense, Malone and Kobe had beef, Shaq & Kobe had issues, Dr. Buss had beef with Phil & Shaq.


in other words all beef, no rings.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:59 am    Post subject:

When Malone went down with the knee injury, Phil used Luke and Slava against Rasheed Wallace.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:02 pm    Post subject:

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@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:20 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.

*pounding the table at my booth in Arby's while shouting*

Beal! Beal! Beal!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:30 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.

*pounding the table at my booth in Arby's while shouting*

Beal! Beal! Beal!


But since Lebron and AD will be gone by then, can Beal carry us to the championship by himself? 😝
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:31 pm    Post subject:

Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.


There won’t be a ton of space with Lebron and AD.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:32 pm    Post subject:

AFireInside619 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.

*pounding the table at my booth in Arby's while shouting*

Beal! Beal! Beal!


But since Lebron and AD will be gone by then, can Beal carry us to the championship by himself? 😝

By that point the Lakers will have to rely on their 2026 1st round pick to save them from the bottom of the league.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 12:41 pm    Post subject:

Baron Von Humongous wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.

*pounding the table at my booth in Arby's while shouting*

Beal! Beal! Beal!


But since Lebron and AD will be gone by then, can Beal carry us to the championship by himself? 😝

By that point the Lakers will have to rely on their 2026 1st round pick to save them from the bottom of the league.


Getting ahead of yourselves. I try not to even think about the rebuild coming.

I’m focused on this team, this season. I think this is going the be the best (only) chance for this “all the chips to the middle of the table “ move. What comes next may not be pretty!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:17 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
Baron Von Humongous wrote:
Aeneas Hunter wrote:
vasashi17+ wrote:


@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880 32
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880 31
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814 33
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925 33
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758 34
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648 37
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212 37
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215 29
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650 32
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650 32
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100 31
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964 33
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984 32
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650 30
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000 32
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000 27
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000 27
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000 26
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000 27
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000 28


I went through and added the ages as of July 1, 2022. The point of this exercise is to illustrate that most of the guys on the list will be entering the downhill side of their careers, or in some cases possibly on the verge of retirement. Unless you're one of the people who rate Lavine highly, it's an underwhelming list. However . . . two years from now, we could have additional names emerge that we aren't even thinking about now. For example, I believe that Doncic will be going into his RFA year. That's the kind of player that we will likely be chasing.

*pounding the table at my booth in Arby's while shouting*

Beal! Beal! Beal!


But since Lebron and AD will be gone by then, can Beal carry us to the championship by himself? 😝

By that point the Lakers will have to rely on their 2026 1st round pick to save them from the bottom of the league.


Getting ahead of yourselves. I try not to even think about the rebuild coming.

I’m focused on this team, this season. I think this is going the be the best (only) chance for this “all the chips to the middle of the table “ move. What comes next may not be pretty!

Nonsense! With Kurt Rambis as shadow GM the Lakers are in great hands after Lebron retires.
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There won’t be a ton of space with Lebron and AD.


That’s true, if Lebron is still part of the puzzle. We shall see.
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Karl Malone injury says hi too...dude had more talent in his elbow than most players today.

This chemistry narrative is a wild one. I understand why Rob would have a hard time addressing the trade deadline and personnel in general after he lost his guy...but that just shines the light on our FO even more in bringing in more folks. If Rob can’t do it for whatever reason, we got other folks in the FO that can.

I think you are saying that:

-- To you, chemistry doesn't matter.
-- Once Pelinka should have made a trade, ANY trade, for whomever, because ANY trade is better than no trade. (I call this the "Adolescent Sports Team Management" approach, which adults normally outgrow.)

Personally, I think that chemistry can matter, but there also comes a time in all playoff series when teams need to rely on their superstars to will them to victory. And the Lakers have 2 most excellent superstars.

To your 2nd point, there are also times when depth is critical. Case in point: last year's finals. GS lost 2 top players and could not recover despite the presence of 2 other stars, plus chemistry borne of a few years of playing together. And I agree, this is where the Lakers may fall short this year, especially when compared to the Clippers. But the FO made the bet that the players they have now (plus any they can possibly acquire after buyouts) are worth riding with this season. You may disagree, but it's a reasonable strategy given the success they've had.


To me chemistry should not be the reason you do not address obvious weaknesses on the roster. If you sincerely believe that running Bron at 35min+ and having him have to be on the floor since our offense turns to (bleep) the moment he sits is a good strategy, then maybe you need to outgrow this “Regular Season Sports Team Satisfactionment”. You really think we have depth at playmaking, huh?

You may be older than me or more grown than I am, but don’t get it twisted, I’m not saying let’s make a trade just for the sake of making one. I’m saying within this title window, you do whatever you can to protect our title chances...and those chances become ever so limited if you run our excellent duo into the ground during the regular season. If Rob is too distraught over Kob (and rightfully so), then has we had a more robust FO, we could have turned to another to address our personnel accordingly.

This team does not have depth and does not have a coach known for his offensive chops. That has led to us heavily relying on our excellent duo to carry us to this fantastic regular season record. The reason it’s “working” is cause it’s the regular season. The moment a title contender starts scheming against our excellent duo is when it’s going to be painfully real just how limited our depth is when it really matters....during the real season...from April to June.

That being said, my “Adolescent Sports Team Management” is flaring up again. Anybody down to pull a trade off with me on 2k?


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Baron Von Humongous wrote:
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Karl Malone injury says hi too...dude had more talent in his elbow than most players today.

This chemistry narrative is a wild one. I understand why Rob would have a hard time addressing the trade deadline and personnel in general after he lost his guy...but that just shines the light on our FO even more in bringing in more folks. If Rob can’t do it for whatever reason, we got other folks in the FO that can.

@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000

Beal seems very gettable and would still be young enough to pair with AD.


Once you get past this either older and past their prime or younger but mediocre crop of FAs up to 2022, then we get to the Jokic, Embiid, KAT, Booker, Dlo, etc., etc. group which will hit unrestricted free agency for the first time. Basically the stars of the 2014-2016 drafts will possibly hit the market from 2023-2025, I think. I don't know how long AD by himself can hold us over until then, but it would seem like a better long-term plan to make sure we have cap space or can get cap space in those years...
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:52 pm    Post subject:

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I once saw a list of the 10 most important factors to winning an NBA championship, chemistry was number 1 on that list . If you don’t think that it’s important then you haven’t been watching very closely


I wouldn't dispute that chemistry is important, but it's not number one. If you don't have championship quality players, it doesn't matter how much they like playing with each other. A team can develop chemistry. A team cannot manufacture quality.


Liking each other is a pretty significant over simplification of chemistry.

Don’t think you can compare the two. Chemistry is an additive, talent is the baseline.

In other words, chemistry is what you do with what you got. Talent is what you got.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:21 pm    Post subject:

You can argue chemistry until you’re blue in the face. I for one like to watch the games. And from what I’ve seen the Lakers barring adjustments will lose to Lac, Mil, Bos, Phi and Tor in a best of 7. But at least they’ll lose getting along with one another
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:13 pm    Post subject:

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Karl Malone injury says hi too...dude had more talent in his elbow than most players today.

This chemistry narrative is a wild one. I understand why Rob would have a hard time addressing the trade deadline and personnel in general after he lost his guy...but that just shines the light on our FO even more in bringing in more folks. If Rob can’t do it for whatever reason, we got other folks in the FO that can.

@BVH, I like that roster a lot bro and here are possible top flight 2022 FAs:

James Harden HOU SG PO $42,782,880
John Wall WAS PG PO $42,782,880
Russell Westbrook HOU PG PO $41,358,814
Kevin Durant BKN SF PO $41,063,925
Stephen Curry GSW PG UFA $40,231,758
Chris Paul OKC PG UFA $39,932,648
LeBron James LAL SF UFA $38,328,212
Bradley Beal WAS SG PO $35,882,215
Kemba Walker BOS PG PO $35,197,650
Jimmy Butler MIA SG PO $35,197,650
Kawhi Leonard LAC SF UFA $34,379,100
Blake Griffin DET PF UFA $34,234,964
Paul George LAC SF UFA $34,227,984
Kyrie Irving BKN PG PO $34,122,650
Jrue Holiday NOP PG UFA $26,361,000
Gary Harris DEN SG UFA $21,000,000
Julius Randle NYK PF UFA $20,700,000
Aaron Gordon ORL PF UFA $20,000,000
Zach LaVine CHI SG UFA $19,500,000
Terry Rozier CHA PG UFA $18,900,000

Beal seems very gettable and would still be young enough to pair with AD.


Once you get past this either older and past their prime or younger but mediocre crop of FAs up to 2022, then we get to the Jokic, Embiid, KAT, Booker, Dlo, etc., etc. group which will hit unrestricted free agency for the first time. Basically the stars of the 2014-2016 drafts will possibly hit the market from 2023-2025, I think. I don't know how long AD by himself can hold us over until then, but it would seem like a better long-term plan to make sure we have cap space or can get cap space in those years...

Hmm...
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DeMarre Carroll's first season in San Antonio hasn't been what either side had hoped for, and Carroll is hoping for an opportunity elsewhere.
The Spurs were hoping that Carroll would come in and provide his usual 3-and-D skills for them off the bench, but for whatever reason the two haven't been able to jell. The team explored the market for him prior to the trade deadline, but couldn't find any buyers. "Another opportunity will come for me," said Carroll. "San Antonio, I don’t know where (it went wrong), what happened, what the hiccup was. But, at the end of the day, I am totally healthy. I work out every day, twice a day. When that opportunity comes, I will be ready to take advantage of it." Carroll is hoping that his agent will be able to come to a buy-out agreement with the Spurs in the near future so that the 33-year-old can give what he believes he has left to another team.

SOURCE: San Antonio Express-News
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DEMARRE CARROLL
SF, SAN ANTONIO SPURS

DeMarre Carroll's first season in San Antonio hasn't been what either side had hoped for, and Carroll is hoping for an opportunity elsewhere.
The Spurs were hoping that Carroll would come in and provide his usual 3-and-D skills for them off the bench, but for whatever reason the two haven't been able to jell. The team explored the market for him prior to the trade deadline, but couldn't find any buyers. "Another opportunity will come for me," said Carroll. "San Antonio, I don’t know where (it went wrong), what happened, what the hiccup was. But, at the end of the day, I am totally healthy. I work out every day, twice a day. When that opportunity comes, I will be ready to take advantage of it." Carroll is hoping that his agent will be able to come to a buy-out agreement with the Spurs in the near future so that the 33-year-old can give what he believes he has left to another team.

SOURCE: San Antonio Express-News
Feb 16, 2020, 6:15 PM ET

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:46 pm    Post subject:

Clippers being interested in Carroll in 3....2....1....
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:27 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
Clippers being interested in Carroll in 3....2....1....


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