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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:50 pm    Post subject:

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People here want to trade our entire team because "you need two superstars to win" and here are the Clippers beating up on Boston.


Well, they're not going to win the championship. They're just building the right way because they don't have the cache to short-cut it. We think we have the clout to short cut, and people simply don't like line cutters. You see them at Disneyland or Magic Mountain, they try get in front. The Lakers are those people.


And the irony of it all is the Clippers are going to get Kawhi without giving up any assets. Meanwhile, Maginka tries to trade for Kawhi and Pop just laughs.


KL going to sign with the Clippers by himself?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:53 pm    Post subject:

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People here want to trade our entire team because "you need two superstars to win" and here are the Clippers beating up on Boston.


Well, they're not going to win the championship. They're just building the right way because they don't have the cache to short-cut it. We think we have the clout to short cut, and people simply don't like line cutters. You see them at Disneyland or Magic Mountain, they try get in front. The Lakers are those people.


And the irony of it all is the Clippers are going to get Kawhi without giving up any assets. Meanwhile, Maginka tries to trade for Kawhi and Pop just laughs.


KL going to sign with the Clippers by himself?


No. Clippers put up 140 against the Celtics, we get our ass kicked. Clippers have Lou, Gallo, Shamet, Harrell. Good rebuilding core.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:54 pm    Post subject:

Chad09 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Runway8 wrote:
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People here want to trade our entire team because "you need two superstars to win" and here are the Clippers beating up on Boston.


Well, they're not going to win the championship. They're just building the right way because they don't have the cache to short-cut it. We think we have the clout to short cut, and people simply don't like line cutters. You see them at Disneyland or Magic Mountain, they try get in front. The Lakers are those people.


And the irony of it all is the Clippers are going to get Kawhi without giving up any assets. Meanwhile, Maginka tries to trade for Kawhi and Pop just laughs.


KL going to sign with the Clippers by himself?


Why not? It’s already a playoff team with good assets and cap space.

Also, a competent front office when it comes to roster construction and team building.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:59 pm    Post subject:

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People here want to trade our entire team because "you need two superstars to win" and here are the Clippers beating up on Boston.


Well, they're not going to win the championship. They're just building the right way because they don't have the cache to short-cut it. We think we have the clout to short cut, and people simply don't like line cutters. You see them at Disneyland or Magic Mountain, they try get in front. The Lakers are those people.


And the irony of it all is the Clippers are going to get Kawhi without giving up any assets. Meanwhile, Maginka tries to trade for Kawhi and Pop just laughs.


KL going to sign with the Clippers by himself?


Why not? It’s already a playoff team with good assets and cap space.

Also, a competent front office when it comes to roster construction and team building.


And a solid coach in Doc
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:23 pm    Post subject:

how the F does the clips keep winning?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:28 pm    Post subject:

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how the F does the clips keep winning?


Chemistry, nobody believing in them, and a good front office that knows how to build a team composed of players that other teams deemed expendable.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:30 pm    Post subject:

Gallinari is a good player when healthy.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:32 pm    Post subject:

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Gallinari is a good player when healthy.

When healthy is keyword.

Played only 21 games lease year
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:23 pm    Post subject:

clippers keep winning and now are the 6th seed and can possibly even be a 5th seed in the playoffs when they were projected to win less than 35 games by nba analysts and everyone else beginning of the season
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:51 pm    Post subject:

The Clippers have more cap space than us too this summer.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:49 am    Post subject:

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japkilla wrote:
how the F does the clips keep winning?


Chemistry, nobody believing in them, and a good front office that knows how to build a team composed of players that other teams deemed expendable.


Agree wholeheartedly with the “chemistry” comment.

The most overlooked and underrated aspect of building a winning team at any level

It is about trust, communication and the willingness to sacrifice for the guy next to you and do what is best for the team not the individual. Such simple concepts taught to every team from grade school on. Yet has been lost with the Lakers,

Compare the post game interviews of the Clippers to the Lakers. Winning certainly is part but listen to them. One group talks about the team, the other about themselves,

Going to be interesting to see if Magic can change the culture in one off season. Especially with the league’s biggest Prima Donna as the centerpiece. Good luck with that!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:30 am    Post subject:

Meanwhile, Maginka have eyes on Clippers trash DeAndre Jordan.

Do they even watch games? Or are they just part of the lazy executives group that only sees “name player.”
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:33 am    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
japkilla wrote:
how the F does the clips keep winning?


Chemistry, nobody believing in them, and a good front office that knows how to build a team composed of players that other teams deemed expendable.


Agree wholeheartedly with the “chemistry” comment.

The most overlooked and underrated aspect of building a winning team at any level

It is about trust, communication and the willingness to sacrifice for the guy next to you and do what is best for the team not the individual. Such simple concepts taught to every team from grade school on. Yet has been lost with the Lakers,

Compare the post game interviews of the Clippers to the Lakers. Winning certainly is part but listen to them. One group talks about the team, the other about themselves,

Going to be interesting to see if Magic can change the culture in one off season. Especially with the league’s biggest Prima Donna as the centerpiece. Good luck with that!


The crazy thing is that they have not made any mortal mistakes just yet by signing bad players to long term deals.

They could emerge from this summer with another max FA, a top 10 draft pick, and assets to make another big trade.

But it's been a fear of mine that Magic is clueless when it comes to building a team.

He wants to buy a team and then assumes 2 max FAs are enough to win the day when you see that the best teams have multiple all stars AND a strong supporting cast.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:49 am    Post subject:

japkilla wrote:
how the F does the clips keep winning?


Very simple: they obviously didn't get obsessed with "names", used analytics, and found quality players. They built a team, not one guy surrounded by ill fitting pieces. Add in good coaching and a good team culture and this is what happens. And, of course, they now have the cap space to get a star player and still surround him with quality guys at the other four positions.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:56 am    Post subject:

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Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
japkilla wrote:
how the F does the clips keep winning?


Chemistry, nobody believing in them, and a good front office that knows how to build a team composed of players that other teams deemed expendable.


Agree wholeheartedly with the “chemistry” comment.

The most overlooked and underrated aspect of building a winning team at any level

It is about trust, communication and the willingness to sacrifice for the guy next to you and do what is best for the team not the individual. Such simple concepts taught to every team from grade school on. Yet has been lost with the Lakers,

Compare the post game interviews of the Clippers to the Lakers. Winning certainly is part but listen to them. One group talks about the team, the other about themselves,

Going to be interesting to see if Magic can change the culture in one off season. Especially with the league’s biggest Prima Donna as the centerpiece. Good luck with that!


The crazy thing is that they have not made any mortal mistakes just yet by signing bad players to long term deals.

They could emerge from this summer with another max FA, a top 10 draft pick, and assets to make another big trade.

But it's been a fear of mine that Magic is clueless when it comes to building a team.

He wants to buy a team and then assumes 2 max FAs are enough to win the day when you see that the best teams have multiple all stars AND a strong supporting cast.


I am not as critical of Magic to call him "clueless". Just that he has made his brag and painted himself into a corner with this path he has chosen. Now he likely feels has to back it up.

How desperate or clouded his judgement is will be seen this summer. I may have little confidence in the current path but it is frustratingly entertaining if nothing else. I'm interested to see just how far he and the organization will go to make the "2 max plan" actually work. Will the team have any chemistry or just a bunch of individuals?

Biggest question remains just kind of team we actually end up with? Contender or cluster**** to be mocked.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 12, 2019 6:59 am    Post subject:

I'm very concerned b/c he got the big fish in LBJ.

Then he proceeded to believe that KCP/Rondo/Lance/Beez was the best way to surround a top 3 talented player.

It's not just about getting the max players, it's about how you build around them.

This will be a notch against LBJ in the GOAT debate, but Magic also should bear the brunt of being the architect of an LBJ team that failed to make the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 5:35 am    Post subject:

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I'm very concerned b/c he got the big fish in LBJ.

Then he proceeded to believe that KCP/Rondo/Lance/Beez was the best way to surround a top 3 talented player.

It's not just about getting the max players, it's about how you build around them.

This will be a notch against LBJ in the GOAT debate, but Magic also should bear the brunt of being the architect of an LBJ team that failed to make the playoffs.
Lebron missing 18 games with an injury changed the whole season. Not fair to trash Magic Johnson he has rebuilt the franchise this season.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
I'm very concerned b/c he got the big fish in LBJ.

Then he proceeded to believe that KCP/Rondo/Lance/Beez was the best way to surround a top 3 talented player.

It's not just about getting the max players, it's about how you build around them.

This will be a notch against LBJ in the GOAT debate, but Magic also should bear the brunt of being the architect of an LBJ team that failed to make the playoffs.
Lebron missing 18 games with an injury changed the whole season. Not fair to trash Magic Johnson he has rebuilt the franchise this season.


It is absolutely fair. You don't get LBJ and then proceed to surround him with trash FAs.

I'm giving Magic a shot until this summer, but to be blind to this season's failure, even with injuries, is not reasonable. We made mistakes after making a triumphant signing. Calling it objectively here.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:00 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Jellojigglin wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I'm very concerned b/c he got the big fish in LBJ.

Then he proceeded to believe that KCP/Rondo/Lance/Beez was the best way to surround a top 3 talented player.

It's not just about getting the max players, it's about how you build around them.

This will be a notch against LBJ in the GOAT debate, but Magic also should bear the brunt of being the architect of an LBJ team that failed to make the playoffs.
Lebron missing 18 games with an injury changed the whole season. Not fair to trash Magic Johnson he has rebuilt the franchise this season.
I disagree I think if healthy Magics team would have made the playoffs. He also dumped horrible contracts and landed the best player in the league.

It is absolutely fair. You don't get LBJ and then proceed to surround him with trash FAs.

I'm giving Magic a shot until this summer, but to be blind to this season's failure, even with injuries, is not reasonable. We made mistakes after making a triumphant signing. Calling it objectively here.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 6:58 am    Post subject:

If there had been more of a tilt towards shooters instead of playmakers when assembling the roster, there would always be the chance that the shooters could get hot in some games and overcome LeBron being out.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:03 am    Post subject:

It's very simple. We need to surround LeBron with defense and shooters.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 8:59 am    Post subject:

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how the F does the clips keep winning?


Very simple: they obviously didn't get obsessed with "names", used analytics, and found quality players. They built a team, not one guy surrounded by ill fitting pieces. Add in good coaching and a good team culture and this is what happens. And, of course, they now have the cap space to get a star player and still surround him with quality guys at the other four positions.


They also had Chris Paul and Blake Griffin to trade. That's the reason they got most of those quality players, you know. And they still aren't as good as they were before they traded those guys.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 9:07 am    Post subject:

Didn't the Clippers dump Blake Griffin after he signed a max with them and told him he was going to be "the future" of the squad. Nobody cares about that anymore?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject:

Jellojigglin wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I'm very concerned b/c he got the big fish in LBJ.

Then he proceeded to believe that KCP/Rondo/Lance/Beez was the best way to surround a top 3 talented player.

It's not just about getting the max players, it's about how you build around them.

This will be a notch against LBJ in the GOAT debate, but Magic also should bear the brunt of being the architect of an LBJ team that failed to make the playoffs.
Lebron missing 18 games with an injury changed the whole season. Not fair to trash Magic Johnson he has rebuilt the franchise this season.


If this is rebuilt then we are in big trouble.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 13, 2019 10:46 am    Post subject:

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Didn't the Clippers dump Blake Griffin after he signed a max with them and told him he was going to be "the future" of the squad. Nobody cares about that anymore?


Why would we care?
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