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| mad55557777 wrote: | rondo Can take a lot of pressure of Lebron, how can people not want him on this team?
He can make plays for others |
We are in a win now mode. Can’t find guys like him who can make and create plays for a minimum. Some people just need to put that for perspectiv instead of looking for that supposedly his lack of D at meaningless game at the end last season. |
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He should be getting 24 minutes a game once healthy. Rondo Kuz Howard are a great trio coming of the bench.
He's the playmaker this team has been missing, and Kuzma benefits the most with Rondo back. |
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Joe Pesci
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I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| I just hope he can stay healthy. Once he develop his game with Kuz and Dwight it will be unstoppable bench. |
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danzag
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:16 am Post subject: |
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| He actually had a good game in limited minutes. |
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King Randle
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | He actually had a good game in limited minutes. |
Sure did...there's no doubt we need him. |
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Zubolo
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 at all you arm chair coaches who seem to know the game better than Rondo, Vogel, Lebron and others just because of the garbage games you saw towards the end of last season.
Relax! Vogel knows what he's doing and playing Rondo at times with Lebron will relieve Bron of the burden of always having to make plays for others.. sometimes I'm sure Lebron will prefer to be spoon-fed some easy baskets. |
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drae
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Rondo made some passes last night that the other guards on the team just don't make. Some off of the PnR and being able to throw over to top when teams front LeBron/AD. Guards aren't as aggressive with him as a ball handler either due to his lack of a scoring threat.
https://twitter.com/UnwrittenRul3s/status/1194641692567060480 |
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Rondo won't play tonight from what Frank said yesterday.
Two of our top 7 guys will be out in AD and Rondo, and in the case of AD, our #1 guy in value (if you account D impact). Coming of a b2b .... against a weak Warriors team led by a former Laker.
Trap game. |
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drae
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rondo won't play tonight from what Frank said yesterday.
Two of our top 7 guys will be out in AD and Rondo, and in the case of AD, our #1 guy in value (if you account D impact). Coming of a b2b .... against a weak Warriors team led by a former Laker.
Trap game. |
Yeah, I'm nervous as hell  |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:12 pm Post subject: |
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| drae wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rondo won't play tonight from what Frank said yesterday.
Two of our top 7 guys will be out in AD and Rondo, and in the case of AD, our #1 guy in value (if you account D impact). Coming of a b2b .... against a weak Warriors team led by a former Laker.
Trap game. |
Yeah, I'm nervous as hell |
Dang. Rondo is in our top 7...
Well, I guess top 8 if you consider him more valuable than McGee. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Zubolo wrote: | at all you arm chair coaches who seem to know the game better than Rondo, Vogel, Lebron and others just because of the garbage games you saw towards the end of last season.
Relax! Vogel knows what he's doing and playing Rondo at times with Lebron will relieve Bron of the burden of always having to make plays for others.. sometimes I'm sure Lebron will prefer to be spoon-fed some easy baskets. |
Veteran guys like him don’t really get up on those garbage games. KCP is one of those guys licking their chops when theres little pressure. |
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drae
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| epak wrote: | | drae wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rondo won't play tonight from what Frank said yesterday.
Two of our top 7 guys will be out in AD and Rondo, and in the case of AD, our #1 guy in value (if you account D impact). Coming of a b2b .... against a weak Warriors team led by a former Laker.
Trap game. |
Yeah, I'm nervous as hell |
Dang. Rondo is in our top 7...
Well, I guess top 8 if you consider him more valuable than McGee. |
I think he gets into the top 7 automatically just by being the only guard on our team who can dribble the ball  |
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| drae wrote: | | epak wrote: | | drae wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Rondo won't play tonight from what Frank said yesterday.
Two of our top 7 guys will be out in AD and Rondo, and in the case of AD, our #1 guy in value (if you account D impact). Coming of a b2b .... against a weak Warriors team led by a former Laker.
Trap game. |
Yeah, I'm nervous as hell |
Dang. Rondo is in our top 7...
Well, I guess top 8 if you consider him more valuable than McGee. |
I think he gets into the top 7 automatically just by being the only guard on our team who can dribble the ball |
High standards.  |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
He did pretty well with Bron this last game imo. Got Lebron a few easy chippies.
On a tangent, what's the deal with his calf? Is this going to be an ongoing thing?
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
He did pretty well with Bron this last game imo. Got Lebron a few easy chippies.
On a tangent, what's the deal with his calf? Is this going to be an ongoing thing? |
He wasn't cleared by medical staff to play back to backs yet. So he was scratched from this game days ago. I'm thinking they'd put the reason down as still recuperating from his calf. |
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
He did pretty well with Bron this last game imo. Got Lebron a few easy chippies.
On a tangent, what's the deal with his calf? Is this going to be an ongoing thing? |
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Lakers vs Suns
Rondo w/ LeBron (8 mins)
OffRtg: 89.5
DefRtg: 94.5
NetRtg: -5.0
Rondo w/out LeBron (6 mins)
OffRtg: 106.3
DefRtg: 86.7
NetRtg: +19.6 |
Hopefully this doesn't continue, in terms of the numbers being negative. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
I completely agree. Yes he looked solid tonight but as the season drags on and teams are coming ready to exploit Rondo lineups we can get exposed.
And I said it many times, even more valuable than a floor general is a high twitch slasher who doesnt even have to be a very good passer or shooter but can just take off from a screen and fly in hard to the hoop for the finish or foul with the occasional kick out or dump off to the rolling center.
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| Zubolo wrote: | at all you arm chair coaches who seem to know the game better than Rondo, Vogel, Lebron and others just because of the garbage games you saw towards the end of last season.
Relax! Vogel knows what he's doing and playing Rondo at times with Lebron will relieve Bron of the burden of always having to make plays for others.. sometimes I'm sure Lebron will prefer to be spoon-fed some easy baskets. |
How about the arm chair coaches who overreact to one game?
I think Rondo at no more than 15 mpg
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| audioaxes wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
I completely agree. Yes he looked solid tonight but as the season drags on and teams are coming ready to exploit Rondo lineups we can get exposed.
And I said it many times, even more valuable than a floor general is a high twitch slasher who doesnt even have to be a very good passer or shooter but can just take off from a screen and fly in hard to the hoop for the finish or foul with the occasional kick out or dump off to the rolling center. |
By the end of the year hopefully that guard will be THT |
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| audioaxes wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
I completely agree. Yes he looked solid tonight but as the season drags on and teams are coming ready to exploit Rondo lineups we can get exposed.
And I said it many times, even more valuable than a floor general is a high twitch slasher who doesnt even have to be a very good passer or shooter but can just take off from a screen and fly in hard to the hoop for the finish or foul with the occasional kick out or dump off to the rolling center. |
By the end of the year hopefully that guard will be THT |
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| epak wrote: | | jonnybravo wrote: | | Joe Pesci wrote: | I have always liked Rondo's game alot, but I still don't like him on the floor with James. It worked for a night, but over the long haul that bad fit will surely rear its' ugly head.
Rondo is not the penetrator/shot-creator this team needs. That hasn't changed one bit for me. |
He did pretty well with Bron this last game imo. Got Lebron a few easy chippies.
On a tangent, what's the deal with his calf? Is this going to be an ongoing thing? |
| Quote: | BJ Metta
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Lakers vs Suns
Rondo w/ LeBron (8 mins)
OffRtg: 89.5
DefRtg: 94.5
NetRtg: -5.0
Rondo w/out LeBron (6 mins)
OffRtg: 106.3
DefRtg: 86.7
NetRtg: +19.6 |
Hopefully this doesn't continue, in terms of the numbers being negative. |
The eye test correlates. They rather sag on Rondo then open the lanes for Lebron. It’s an awkward fit offensively plus both have fallen off defensively. |
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| Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Very poor game. Ooph |
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| epak wrote: | | Very poor game. Ooph |
you jinxed him with your alley-oop pregame post!
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Shot some much needed 3's
Still a liability on defense
15 points though is fantastic and 2 rebounds? I'll take it  |
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