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Interesting the last two teams Brandin Cooks played for was NO and NE. One down and one to go...
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Most of the money in Vegas is being bet on the Patriots. The line has been pushed to Patriots -3 at some casinos but most are still at -2.5.
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| loslakersss wrote: | The thing is, people can live with a bad call if it's in their favor and they can't let it go if it goes the other way. I don't want to add another 30-60 minutes to each game for all these reviews. It's slow enough as it is. The NBA has gotten so bad at the end of games with all of these reviews.
At the end of the day it's entertainment. A game that moves at snails pace is not entertaining. |
They used to have more bad calls that affected the outcomes of games before replay. I still remember Jerry Rice fumbling in the 49ers-Packers game in 1998. It should have been Packers ball and they would have taken a knee and ran out the clock. Instead it wasn’t ruled a fumble, the 49ers kept the ball and marched down the field for the victory, with Terrell Owens becoming a hero in “The Catch II.”
Another one that stands out in my mind is the Steelers-Oilers AFC Championship Game in 1980 when the officials incorrectly ruled that a pass in the end zone was incomplete when it was late in the game and that halted the Oilers attempt at a comeback.
And even when there was replay I remember the Bert Emanuel catch being ruled incomplete and the Tuck Rule game off the top of my head. And the Seahawks should have ran the ball! Oh wait, that one wasn’t on the refs. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | The thing is, people can live with a bad call if it's in their favor and they can't let it go if it goes the other way. I don't want to add another 30-60 minutes to each game for all these reviews. It's slow enough as it is. The NBA has gotten so bad at the end of games with all of these reviews.
At the end of the day it's entertainment. A game that moves at snails pace is not entertaining. |
They used to have more bad calls that affected the outcomes of games before replay. I still remember Jerry Rice fumbling in the 49ers-Packers game in 1998. It should have been Packers ball and they would have taken a knee and ran out the clock. Instead it wasn’t ruled a fumble, the 49ers kept the ball and marched down the field for the victory, with Terrell Owens becoming a hero in “The Catch II.”
Another one that stands out in my mind is the Steelers-Oilers AFC Championship Game in 1980 when the officials incorrectly ruled that a pass in the end zone was incomplete when it was late in the game and that halted the Oilers attempt at a comeback.
And even when there was replay I remember the Bert Emanuel catch being ruled incomplete and the Tuck Rule game off the top of my head. And the Seahawks should have ran the ball! Oh wait, that one wasn’t on the refs. |
Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
This is an unpopular opinion but it wasn't a guarantee that Beast Mode was gonna run it in for a TD. Although I think it would have been a higher % than any pass IMO. |
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| chickenjoy24 wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
This is an unpopular opinion but it wasn't a guarantee that Beast Mode was gonna run it in for a TD. Although I think it would have been a higher % than any pass IMO. |
As I remember it was 3rd and goal. If I remember it right they had two shots with Beast Mode. I think it was the wrong call. Put it in the pits “Mono e mono” your 11 against their 11.
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | The thing is, people can live with a bad call if it's in their favor and they can't let it go if it goes the other way. I don't want to add another 30-60 minutes to each game for all these reviews. It's slow enough as it is. The NBA has gotten so bad at the end of games with all of these reviews.
At the end of the day it's entertainment. A game that moves at snails pace is not entertaining. |
They used to have more bad calls that affected the outcomes of games before replay. I still remember Jerry Rice fumbling in the 49ers-Packers game in 1998. It should have been Packers ball and they would have taken a knee and ran out the clock. Instead it wasn’t ruled a fumble, the 49ers kept the ball and marched down the field for the victory, with Terrell Owens becoming a hero in “The Catch II.”
Another one that stands out in my mind is the Steelers-Oilers AFC Championship Game in 1980 when the officials incorrectly ruled that a pass in the end zone was incomplete when it was late in the game and that halted the Oilers attempt at a comeback.
And even when there was replay I remember the Bert Emanuel catch being ruled incomplete and the Tuck Rule game off the top of my head. And the Seahawks should have ran the ball! Oh wait, that one wasn’t on the refs. |
Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought it was more of a great play than a bad call. We must remember, it took what some call the greatest interception of all time, to make that play--with Butler crashing into Kearse's right shoulder/arm, pinning it down, while reaching in to take the ball away at the same time. Also, we have all watched as some great running back gets the ball in that same situation and gets stuffed. There is no automatic in that situation.
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| ribeye wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: | | Steve007 wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | The thing is, people can live with a bad call if it's in their favor and they can't let it go if it goes the other way. I don't want to add another 30-60 minutes to each game for all these reviews. It's slow enough as it is. The NBA has gotten so bad at the end of games with all of these reviews.
At the end of the day it's entertainment. A game that moves at snails pace is not entertaining. |
They used to have more bad calls that affected the outcomes of games before replay. I still remember Jerry Rice fumbling in the 49ers-Packers game in 1998. It should have been Packers ball and they would have taken a knee and ran out the clock. Instead it wasn’t ruled a fumble, the 49ers kept the ball and marched down the field for the victory, with Terrell Owens becoming a hero in “The Catch II.”
Another one that stands out in my mind is the Steelers-Oilers AFC Championship Game in 1980 when the officials incorrectly ruled that a pass in the end zone was incomplete when it was late in the game and that halted the Oilers attempt at a comeback.
And even when there was replay I remember the Bert Emanuel catch being ruled incomplete and the Tuck Rule game off the top of my head. And the Seahawks should have ran the ball! Oh wait, that one wasn’t on the refs. |
Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought it was more of a great play than a bad call. We must remember, it took what some call the greatest interception of all time, to make that play--with Butler crashing into Kearse's right shoulder/arm, pinning it down, while reaching in to take the ball away at the same time. Also, we have all watched as some great running back gets the ball in that same situation and gets stuffed. There is no automatic in that situation. |
Again, it's not the call to pass that I have huge issue with. It's the specific design of the play. There's a reason that you never see that play called at the goal line. There are too many bodies around the ball, and you increase the odds that a ball can be tipped, or that one person can diagnose the play because he doesn't have much field to defend behind him and can break on the ball...and that's exactly what happened. If you're going to throw there, you want to have a potential pass-catcher have a lot of space around him. It's similar to how I hate when offenses bunch up into a goal-line set around the 1-yard-line on 4th down and then just run the ball up the middle. You're better off keeping wide receivers on the field and having less defenders around the ball, if you're going to run it. The concept is that you want more space, not less.
Oh, and I believe the play Seattle ran was on 2nd and goal, not 3rd and goal. |
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| ribeye wrote: | | ChickenStu wrote: |
Given the circumstances, that may have been the worst play call in sports history by any coach at any time. (Way to go, Darrell Bevell!) And I don't only mean because they didn't run the ball. If you are going to throw, OK, go off play action, or roll the QB out, or throw a pass where you aren't throwing a ball into an area where lots of people and lots of bodies are going to be around the ball. |
I know I'm in the minority here, but I thought it was more of a great play than a bad call. We must remember, it took what some call the greatest interception of all time, to make that play--with Butler crashing into Kearse's right shoulder/arm, pinning it down, while reaching in to take the ball away at the same time. Also, we have all watched as some great running back gets the ball in that same situation and gets stuffed. There is no automatic in that situation. |
I'm with CStu. Even if it was a great play, that play doesn't happen without the stupid decision to throw the ball in that area of the field - a part of the field where bad things happening for the offense increases.
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I just realized TG went to University of Georgia. Superbowl is in Atlanta GA. This could be the big game we have been waiting for out of him. He's at his best when he is a double threat of running and receiving.
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The Los Angeles Rams will host a send-off rally for fans Sunday morning in Inglewood before the team heads to Atlanta to take on the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LIII.
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Super Bowl 53 Betting Update
| Quote: | Every Las Vegas sports book has their Super Bowl props posted and are ready for the stretch run of massive business next week hoping to set a state record in handle for the fourth straight year. It's still too early to tell if $158 million in handle like last season is within reach because they haven't even written 10 percent of what they're expected to overall.
The main concern after the first week of wagering is where in the heck is the Rams money? The South Point had a Patriots -3 flat that lasted only 17 minutes on Tuesday. Rams money came fast showing it's out there. They've been at -2.5 ever since.
Since then, three other books have moved to some variation of Patriots -3 and they're still there. Boyd Gaming went to -3 EVEN on Thursday, Station Casinos went to -3 EVEN Friday afternoon and William Hill went to -3 flat Friday night. I can understand why sharps may not want to lay -120 at +3 with the Rams, but why isn't Rams +3 flat at William Hill seen as attractive?
Station Casinos sports book director Jason McCormick said their move was just a large culmination of Patriots money that forced the move. I told him I thought he'd be down to -1.5 next weekend and he said: "I hope you're right."
I've been correct the last few years about the public flip in the Super Bowl from the first week of action to the second week. It happened last year with early Patriots money then flipping to the Eagles. It was all Carolina against the Broncos early and then Denver money flooded in forcing the books to root for Carolina.
I still feel the number is going to drop when all the Los Angeles money drives in next week, but all those 3's staying up for over a day is kind of alarming.
What usually happens is the first week is about what the public saw last. The Patriots and Tom Brady were amazing at Kansas City and the Rams made it due to a bad call. The following week is when they take the dog, and they've had so much success with them covering nine of the last 11 Super Bowls and winning eight outright.
Caesars Palace appears comfortable at -2.5 -115, a number they've been at since Tuesday. They dropped down to a city-low 56.5 on the total Saturday while most other books are 57. The Golden Nugget has been at -2.5 -120 since Thursday. |
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The team had a send off rally in Inglewood next to the new stadium. They are off to Atlanta.
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| 32 wrote: | | I just realized TG went to University of Georgia. Superbowl is in Atlanta GA. This could be the big game we have been waiting for out of him. He's at his best when he is a double threat of running and receiving. |
Sony Michel is also from UGA. A rookie that has played really well this year. Dawg vs Dawg. |
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Opening night in Atlanta.
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I guess you kind of knew this would happen...
| Quote: | | "Age has definitely taken a toll. For him to still be doing it, that's a great compliment for him. But I think that he's definitely not the same quarterback he was," Robey-Coleman told Bleacher Report. "Movement. Speed. Velocity. Arm strength. He still can sling it, but he's not slinging it as much. Whatever he was doing -- because of his age and all that -- he's not doing as much of that anymore. He's still doing the same things; he's just not doing as much of it. And sometimes, it's not the sharpest. But it still gets done." |
Robey-Coleman trash talking, adding fuel to the Pats fire. As boring as Belichick and Pats players' press conferences are, they know what they're doing not giving extra motivation to the other team. |
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Eff the Pats. They were gifted the Super Bowl after 9/11... how could you NOT have a team named the PATRIOTS win it that year? Sick of these guys and their fans are the absolute worst. Classless dbags.
Can never win OR lose without talking shtt about the other team. A win against them would be oh so sweet. But with all this garbage with this non-PI call, I can guarantee a few calls go the Pats way this game. (more than the usual).
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I see media and fans saying Brady and the Pats are going to make him pay for that. Really? Plaxico Burress predicted a 23-17 victory over the undefeated Pats team that scored 589 points. Instead of making him pay, the Pats lost 17-14. And that was a much younger Brady after his best season when he played with Randy Moss.
There are so many other factors that will affect the outcome of the game. And shouldn’t New England have plenty of motivation already because it’s the Super Bowl? I think trying to make up for the loss last year should give them more motivation than this. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | I see media and fans saying Brady and the Pats are going to make him pay for that. Really? Plaxico Burress predicted a 23-17 victory over the undefeated Pats team that scored 589 points. Instead of making him pay, the Pats lost 17-14. And that was a much younger Brady after his best season when he played with Randy Moss.
There are so many other factors that will affect the outcome of the game. And shouldn’t New England have plenty of motivation already because it’s the Super Bowl? I think trying to make up for the loss last year should give them more motivation than this. |
While I mostly agree, guys shouldn't need any extra motivation for the biggest game of the year - for some it will be the biggest game of their life - there is a thing about great players finding not more motivation but a laser focus from playing mad. I don't think this will have any effect though. Maybe Brady will try to pick on him if the opportunity presents itself but he's a smart guy, I don't think he will challenge him just for the sake of having the last laugh. |
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I don't care about the comments by Nickell Robey-Coleman's on Brady. I like that he is getting in his head. You know Brady is going to test him for those comments. I just hope the refs don't single NRC out for the no call against NO.
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| 32 wrote: | | I don't care about the comments by Nickell Robey-Coleman's on Brady. I like that he is getting in his head. You know Brady is going to test him for those comments. I just hope the refs don't single NRC out for the no call against NO. |
I highly doubt that would happen. With as much backlash as they got for the last game, they're going to have even more eyes on them this game; and not just from fans, from league officials. |
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| Steve007 wrote: | I see media and fans saying Brady and the Pats are going to make him pay for that. Really? Plaxico Burress predicted a 23-17 victory over the undefeated Pats team that scored 589 points. Instead of making him pay, the Pats lost 17-14. And that was a much younger Brady after his best season when he played with Randy Moss.
There are so many other factors that will affect the outcome of the game. And shouldn’t New England have plenty of motivation already because it’s the Super Bowl? I think trying to make up for the loss last year should give them more motivation than this. |
Yeah, much ado about nothing. The Pats have done this whole Super Bowl thing enough times that they aren't going to get more psyched because of that comment. In fact, if it did have any effect on Brady, it might be to lead Brady to try and prove it incorrect, which could go badly for Brady if he forces things. I doubt that, but I doubt that the comment pumps the Pats up anymore than they are even more.
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I heard the comments and thought nothing of them. What he said was true, Tom is not the Tom of 10 years ago. Media selling drama is what I glean. The Pats have all the motivation they need, Super Bowl LIII.
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Wade Phillips is the only person I care about for interviews, dude has been hilarious.
| Quote: | Asked Phillips if he’d agree with Belichick’s comments from last week that the Phillips defensive system really hasn’t changed in 30 years.
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| loslakersss wrote: | Wade Phillips is the only person I care about for interviews, dude has been hilarious.
| Quote: | Asked Phillips if he’d agree with Belichick’s comments from last week that the Phillips defensive system really hasn’t changed in 30 years.
“Well...it’s been 40 years.” |
-Phil A Perry
| Quote: | | I asked Wade Phillips about planning for Tom Brady in the postseason and what’s the plan this time around. He told me his plan is to get an earpiece with Tony Romo in it to tell him what’s going to happen before each play. |
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Honestly, I think Romo would make a good defensive coordinator. He's been spot on calling what the next play was going to be.
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