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LongBeachPoly
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| Wino wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | where24happens wrote: | | The free agent plan was and is literally our only chance. Do you really think our core + DLo + Randle would've made the playoffs this year? That is an insane take. Our young core lost to the Knicks and Cavs this year, they are demonstrably one of the worst teams in the NBA without Lebron. Getting superstars is the only way. We don't have the homegrown talent to do a full rebuild organically, the young guys just aren't good enough. |
| LongBeachPoly wrote: | This is why it's so hard to have a conversation. Everything has to be an exact quote or the conversation goes no where.
I mean, you are against the max FA plan. Ok, seems like you'd rather have stayed the course?
Nope, you say that's not it either. Yeah, I have no idea then. |
I'll include you both in this response. I've explained how I would have preferred to approach things many, many times over the past eight months, and I'm not going to give you the full blown explanation. The disconnect is that both of you are seeing things in binary terms: the two max FA strategy or stick with the kids. There is a third option: function like a competent NBA front office. If you don't want to keep a player, trade the player for value. If you see a good opportunity to make a trade or sign a free agent, go for it. Accumulate assets and use them.
Chasing superstars in free agency is not the only way to play the game. That's a quick fix strategy, and it is actually high risk. The free agents can blow you off. The free agents can take your money, then underachieve for whatever reason. The free agents can take your money, play just fine, but not be good enough to overcome the lack of a roster, because you've stripped it bare to clear cap space.
Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? I guess you could make an argument about Durant, but really the answer is None. Collectively, our biggest problem is that Laker Nation lives in the past and is encumbered by memories of picking up Wilt, Kareem, and Shaq. We did sign Lebron, but a lot of people are finally realizing that this is a different kettle of fish.
If Magic pulls off the quick fix this summer, I'll tip my cap to him. If he doesn't, then we could easily wind up kicking the can down the street for five years. In fact, even if he signs one of the lesser free agents, we could wind up kicking the can down the street for five years. Magic needs to get everything right this summer. |
Yeah, if it's the quick fix, it's not just the Lakers strategy. It's also the Clippers strategy, the Knick's strategy. That was the Heat strategy when they built up that Heat team.
I mean, Jerry West is clearing the deck to attract Kawhi and whoever else.
You say - things aren't binary - there's a 3rd option. Ok, but you really have to pick a path. In order to have cap space, you have to have some kind of plan. Cap space doesn't just happen. You've got to target who you want to go after, and you have to figure out how to create enough cap space to go after that FA. It doesn't just happen.
And your question - "Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent?"
Let's take a look at the top teams:
1) GS -
2) Milwaukee -
3) Toronto -
4) Denver -
5) Sixers -
How many years do you want to go back on these teams?
Milwaukee hasn't been relevant in forever until they drafted a Greek kid as the no. 15 pick and he blossomed into the best player in the game. Meanwhile, all their other lottery picks pretty much fizzled out (Jabari Parker, Thon Maker, etc.)
Toronto - they took a huge gamble trading for Kawhi w/ one year left on his contract. How's this any different than creating cap space to try and sign Kawhi?
Denver - they haven't been relevant since the Carmelo days. How'd they get this good? Well, it took a 2nd rd pick blossoming into a superstar center.
GS - how many rebuilds did they go through before they hit it with Draymond, Curry and Thompson? Chris Webber, Billy Owens, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis? Andres Biedrins?
Sixers - yeah, they tanked pretty hard and came up with 2 franchise players.
See, you can't cherry pick the top teams in the league and say SEE? All these teams have had years and years of failure before they stumbled upon some formula that worked.
Magic's had 2 years? And you're judging him against all these other teams that have had 20+ years of trial and error?
Bottom line, you need a superstar to win in this league. However way you manage to acquire one - you need one. Of the 5 teams above, 4 of them drafted their superstars. One of them traded for their superstar. Unless you want to wait for the Lakers to draft and develop a superstar, what other ways are there to acquire one?
They've tried drafting one (Lonzo) - that isn't likely to pan out
They've tried signing one (LeBron) - that worked
They've tried trading for one (AD) - that didn't work out |
Also, doesn't take too much historical reference to point out that the whole Lakers history of winning was in go after superstar players, either through trade or as a FA. First we got Wilt, then we got Jabbar, then we got Shaq, and finally we got Pau. Not to mention all the guys like McAdoo, Thompson, Fox, etc.
The whole Laker franchise has been about pursuing guys we didn't draft to win championships. No offense but this whole argument is simply one of the weakest arguments I have ever heard. |
Yup. And it's not just the Lakers, it's the history of the NBA. You can't win in the NBA w/o elite talent.
It doesn't matter how you go about trying to acquire elite talent, you need them to win in the NBA.
I don't think we've drafted any elite superstars recently. Only way we can acquire one is through free agency or trades. |
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Bol
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| Last offseason there was really only one marquee FA who changed teams and the Lakers got him. We'll see what happens this offseason. I like Magic's chances. |
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| Bol wrote: | | Last offseason there was really only one marquee FA who changed teams and the Lakers got him. We'll see what happens this offseason. I like Magic's chances. |
Agreed.
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lakersfan8
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | | Beir32 wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Quote: | | Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? |
Hou-Harden, CP3
OKC-PG13
SAS-Aldridge
GS-Iggy, KD, Boogie
Celtics-Horford, Hayward |
Well yeah sure but other than those five…none.  |
How many of those teams traded all of their cost controlled assets and picks for those players?... None
No one has a problem with a reasonable trade... but only an unreasonable trade will get this done. |
Well they didn't have Mozgov and Dengs contracts to begin with.
I think those contracts were significant  |
I'm not talking about clearing Clarkson/Randle/Nance/DLo/Zubac/Svi
I'm talking about adding to the list... Zo/BI/Kuz/Hart... and probably Mo/Bonga and picks, one which will likely be a lotto pick.
Signing AD in 2020 is a good move. Not for LBJ... but it is for the Lakers.
We add him... keep the good parts of the core... and trade the rest for the second up and coming star.
Trading everyone else this summer... isn't wise unless we have Kyrie or another elite agent secured first.
I would laugh if we traded our lotto pick and by some miracle it turned into Zion.
Then people might finally understand the magnitude of our potential overpay. |
Harden and PG13 were traded and then signed an extension. That shouldn't count I guess. |
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BI looking like (bleep) on that one  |
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lakersfan8
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | where24happens wrote: | | The free agent plan was and is literally our only chance. Do you really think our core + DLo + Randle would've made the playoffs this year? That is an insane take. Our young core lost to the Knicks and Cavs this year, they are demonstrably one of the worst teams in the NBA without Lebron. Getting superstars is the only way. We don't have the homegrown talent to do a full rebuild organically, the young guys just aren't good enough. |
| LongBeachPoly wrote: | This is why it's so hard to have a conversation. Everything has to be an exact quote or the conversation goes no where.
I mean, you are against the max FA plan. Ok, seems like you'd rather have stayed the course?
Nope, you say that's not it either. Yeah, I have no idea then. |
I'll include you both in this response. I've explained how I would have preferred to approach things many, many times over the past eight months, and I'm not going to give you the full blown explanation. The disconnect is that both of you are seeing things in binary terms: the two max FA strategy or stick with the kids. There is a third option: function like a competent NBA front office. If you don't want to keep a player, trade the player for value. If you see a good opportunity to make a trade or sign a free agent, go for it. Accumulate assets and use them.
Chasing superstars in free agency is not the only way to play the game. That's a quick fix strategy, and it is actually high risk. The free agents can blow you off. The free agents can take your money, then underachieve for whatever reason. The free agents can take your money, play just fine, but not be good enough to overcome the lack of a roster, because you've stripped it bare to clear cap space.
Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? I guess you could make an argument about Durant, but really the answer is None. Collectively, our biggest problem is that Laker Nation lives in the past and is encumbered by memories of picking up Wilt, Kareem, and Shaq. We did sign Lebron, but a lot of people are finally realizing that this is a different kettle of fish.
If Magic pulls off the quick fix this summer, I'll tip my cap to him. If he doesn't, then we could easily wind up kicking the can down the street for five years. In fact, even if he signs one of the lesser free agents, we could wind up kicking the can down the street for five years. Magic needs to get everything right this summer. |
Yeah, if it's the quick fix, it's not just the Lakers strategy. It's also the Clippers strategy, the Knick's strategy. That was the Heat strategy when they built up that Heat team.
I mean, Jerry West is clearing the deck to attract Kawhi and whoever else.
You say - things aren't binary - there's a 3rd option. Ok, but you really have to pick a path. In order to have cap space, you have to have some kind of plan. Cap space doesn't just happen. You've got to target who you want to go after, and you have to figure out how to create enough cap space to go after that FA. It doesn't just happen.
And your question - "Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent?"
Let's take a look at the top teams:
1) GS -
2) Milwaukee -
3) Toronto -
4) Denver -
5) Sixers -
How many years do you want to go back on these teams?
Milwaukee hasn't been relevant in forever until they drafted a Greek kid as the no. 15 pick and he blossomed into the best player in the game. Meanwhile, all their other lottery picks pretty much fizzled out (Jabari Parker, Thon Maker, etc.)
Toronto - they took a huge gamble trading for Kawhi w/ one year left on his contract. How's this any different than creating cap space to try and sign Kawhi?
Denver - they haven't been relevant since the Carmelo days. How'd they get this good? Well, it took a 2nd rd pick blossoming into a superstar center.
GS - how many rebuilds did they go through before they hit it with Draymond, Curry and Thompson? Chris Webber, Billy Owens, Baron Davis, Monta Ellis? Andres Biedrins?
Sixers - yeah, they tanked pretty hard and came up with 2 franchise players.
See, you can't cherry pick the top teams in the league and say SEE? All these teams have had years and years of failure before they stumbled upon some formula that worked.
Magic's had 2 years? And you're judging him against all these other teams that have had 20+ years of trial and error?
Bottom line, you need a superstar to win in this league. However way you manage to acquire one - you need one. Of the 5 teams above, 4 of them drafted their superstars. One of them traded for their superstar. Unless you want to wait for the Lakers to draft and develop a superstar, what other ways are there to acquire one?
They've tried drafting one (Lonzo) - that isn't likely to pan out
They've tried signing one (LeBron) - that worked
They've tried trading for one (AD) - that didn't work out |
I could argue although Clippers and Knicks also made trades to create cap space, they did get good value in return. If they sign max free agents, that's home run. If they don't, they have many picks for rebuild so they are still in a good position.
Many of us didn't want a quick fix. We were willing to wait for few years and enjoy riding with the young players. If you don't want to extend the young players, wait for 1 or 2 years then trade them like what Knicks did to get some draft picks in return. |
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Heyvoon24
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| After the all star break the new Lakers coach will be Rich Paul |
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MickMgl
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Threatt_Level wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Quote: | | Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? |
Hou-Harden, CP3
OKC-PG13
SAS-Aldridge
GS-Iggy, KD, Boogie
Celtics-Horford, Hayward |
Houston traded for Harden and CP3.
OKC traded for PG13.
Golden State traded for Iggy.
Horford and Hayward aren't superstars |
What is the actual point? That it's ok to sign non-superstars to max deals but don't chase the actual susperstars in free agency? |
The point seems to be that none of today's contending teams got there by signing a superstar in free agency.
Above is a list of good teams who have good players. 
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laker4life
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Magic and Pelinka need to look in the mirror.
This is their team and other teams are doing better.
There is no excuse.
They should have anticipated for Lebron getting hurt.
Ridiculous. |
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KindCrippler2000
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| Most disappointing season since 2012-2013. They have work to do. |
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I'm not sure if Magic and Rob have done a good job or poor job. 7 weeks ago, we looked great. Then Lebron went out for a month.
But we can all look at the roster before the deadline and see we were missing some shooting.
And of course we started off the season with just 1 big (plus whatever was going on with Zu)
Is this still remnants of the trade rumors? I honestly don't know if it's that, roster construction, or coaching. I'm sure it's all of the above, not sure about the allocation. |
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Why is this happening?
Because our FO prioritizes sending out one year deals praying to hit home runs in free agency every year and neglects to actually keep the talent around that does great because they're afraid of committing to talent long term that isn't a max free agent, not understanding that keeping that talent on the team makes following seasons easier and those players can become assets if it doesn't look like it's working out.
But their strategy is "save every penny and punt in free agency, and if it fails, keep saving every penny."
And then the one year deals they do send out they prioritize the wrong types of player.
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Magic and Pelinka's boss: The CEO of a basketball company telling the world not to contact her on any topics around basketball. Let that sink in.
https://twitter.com/JeanieBuss?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
"CEO, co-owner LA Lakers - I don't write about bball just the things that go on around Lakers world. Do Not contact me for free tickets or questions re. 🏀"
that's like asking larry page about search engines and getting a response to not contact him about anything related to search engines
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King Kleazy
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So tired of the excuses for maginka.....because they aren’t supposed to be leading the FO ANYWAY. Sooooo much trash nepotism as well as nepotism by association with this team. Not to mention the only qualified front office individual connected to this team, we send down the hall.
For who we are as a franchise, once Mitch and Jim were canned, we could’ve had a plethora of legitimate presidents and GM’s lining up for those jobs. Yet we decided Magic and Kobe’s agent were worth not even taking the time to do a thorough search?
Luke and his run as a fill in was what justified his hire and we allowed him to bring in hack assistants that anyone could see wouldn’t fill in the gaps of his weaknesses.
Continually putting half assed rosters compiled of 1yr holdovers while not having the finest of developmental staff that aren’t limited by a salary cap? Injuries piling up over the last few years, yet we don’t truly do all we can to find adequate staffs that measure up to whomever the league considers tops?
WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING???
We are one of if not THE worst free throw AND shooting teams in the league, yet we have no shooting coach? Cmon man how is it that the common fan can see these things yet the “professionals” are blind?
Then instead of picking a path we decided we could rebuild AND compete. We’re always the most profitable organization, so why bring in a OLDER Lebron without the environment to truly contend? I understand turning him down looks bad but without a plan.....we look even worse.
All the talk of us being 4th seed means nothing because chemistry is shot and trust is gone. We won’t recapture that again this season, and god forbid we strike out on a max.
Fire, Magic, Rob, Luke AND his trash staff NOW. Take the remainder of the year to THOROUGHLY INTERVIEW a group NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE LAKERS to point us in a thought out direction. Hell move Lebron if need be, because we’re a boat headed for an iceberg, whether that’s labeled with ego, incompetence, injury or disfunction sign on it. |
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These fools forgot about regular season and were worrying about playoffs
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| Heyvoon24 wrote: | | After the all star break the new Lakers coach will be Rich Paul |
Will he continue to also run the FO or will he focus solely on coaching? |
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I guess Magic's hugs didn't work.
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| Bol wrote: | | Last offseason there was really only one marquee FA who changed teams and the Lakers got him. We'll see what happens this offseason. I like Magic's chances. |
Just like Cleveland, you hope to acquire overwhelming talent to compensate for an incompetent management and ownership under the mercy of Klutch. This "meme" team they assembled proved to be completely unsustainable without LeBron and now they've all but checked out from the trade rumors. The band-aid provided by Rondo's leadership was ripped off by an unnecessary team meeting by Magic. |
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| lakersfan8 wrote: | I could argue although Clippers and Knicks also made trades to create cap space, they did get good value in return. If they sign max free agents, that's home run. If they don't, they have many picks for rebuild so they are still in a good position.
Many of us didn't want a quick fix. We were willing to wait for few years and enjoy riding with the young players. If you don't want to extend the young players, wait for 1 or 2 years then trade them like what Knicks did to get some draft picks in return. |
The Knicks have gone for the home run strategy in the past, and struck out. Maybe this year they'll win the lottery and score in the free agent market. Objectively speaking, it would be good for the league, though Dolan would probably find a way to mess it up. |
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| paymonM wrote: | Magic and Pelinka's boss: The CEO of a basketball company telling the world not to contact her on any topics around basketball. Let that sink in.
https://twitter.com/JeanieBuss?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
"CEO, co-owner LA Lakers - I don't write about bball just the things that go on around Lakers world. Do Not contact me for free tickets or questions re. 🏀"
that's like asking larry page about search engines and getting a response to not contact him about anything related to search engines |
Not to mention her twitter profile picture. Any other CEO posting that would be fired by the board of directors. Crazy! |
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LongBeachPoly
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| lakersfan8 wrote: |
I could argue although Clippers and Knicks also made trades to create cap space, they did get good value in return. If they sign max free agents, that's home run. If they don't, they have many picks for rebuild so they are still in a good position.
Many of us didn't want a quick fix. We were willing to wait for few years and enjoy riding with the young players. If you don't want to extend the young players, wait for 1 or 2 years then trade them like what Knicks did to get some draft picks in return. |
You could, but then they had more valuable assets than us as well. The Clippers had Chris Paul, DeAndre Jordan, and Blake Griffin which they parlayed into alot of valuable assets.
The Knicks used Porzingis to clear cap space and acquire draft picks. The most valuable asset we had to work with (aside from the youngsters) was Lou Williams. |
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| I think the trades we made affect the young core mentality too. Zubac was saved from a AD deal but still got traded for a lesser talent. The message this front office sending is: we are actively trying to trade every young prospect whether it is for a star player or not. Zubac was the only young core had a trending up value before the trade deadline. You think the players won’t get confused about what this front office is doing? |
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| MickMgl wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Threatt_Level wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Quote: | | Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? |
Hou-Harden, CP3
OKC-PG13
SAS-Aldridge
GS-Iggy, KD, Boogie
Celtics-Horford, Hayward |
Houston traded for Harden and CP3.
OKC traded for PG13.
Golden State traded for Iggy.
Horford and Hayward aren't superstars |
What is the actual point? That it's ok to sign non-superstars to max deals but don't chase the actual susperstars in free agency? |
The point seems to be that none of today's contending teams got their by signing a superstar in free agency.
Above is a list of good teams who have good players. |
Yeah, which is an odd point. If you're going to spend money on a FA, wouldn't you rather that FA be a superstar? What's the point of pointing out that Hayward and Horford were max FAs who WEREN'T a superstar.
As if that was a POSITIVE. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | lakersfan8 wrote: | I could argue although Clippers and Knicks also made trades to create cap space, they did get good value in return. If they sign max free agents, that's home run. If they don't, they have many picks for rebuild so they are still in a good position.
Many of us didn't want a quick fix. We were willing to wait for few years and enjoy riding with the young players. If you don't want to extend the young players, wait for 1 or 2 years then trade them like what Knicks did to get some draft picks in return. |
The Knicks have gone for the home run strategy in the past, and struck out. Maybe this year they'll win the lottery and score in the free agent market. Objectively speaking, it would be good for the league, though Dolan would probably find a way to mess it up. |
The Knicks have also gone with the drafting strategy and struck out (2 all stars selected in the last 30 years - David Lee and Porzingis).
They've also gone with the trading strategy (Melo) and struck out. |
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| MickMgl wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | Threatt_Level wrote: | | Hero Ball wrote: | | Quote: | | Look at the teams that are in contention this year. How many of them got to that point by signing a superstar free agent? |
Hou-Harden, CP3
OKC-PG13
SAS-Aldridge
GS-Iggy, KD, Boogie
Celtics-Horford, Hayward |
Houston traded for Harden and CP3.
OKC traded for PG13.
Golden State traded for Iggy.
Horford and Hayward aren't superstars |
What is the actual point? That it's ok to sign non-superstars to max deals but don't chase the actual susperstars in free agency? |
The point seems to be that none of today's contending teams got their by signing a superstar in free agency.
Above is a list of good teams who have good players. |
Yep. Other than the times when Lebron played Shadow GM, no one has built a title team by signing a superstar free agent since we signed Shaq back during the Clinton administration. This isn't a coincidence. In the 23 years since we signed Shaq, the CBA has set maximum salaries, imposed a draconian luxury tax, and in general made it difficult to build by just throwing money around. In addition, the proliferation of TV rights and social media has made it possible for a player to become a national icon playing in Oklahoma City, in Cleveland, or even for the Clippers.
Lebron was the exception because he figured out that he could orchestrate player moves. Even then, he went to teams that had a superstar (Wade) or a rising star (Irving). Now Lebron is 34. George didn't join him, and Lebron, Paul, and Magic struck out on Davis. Maybe the allure of playing with Lebron will be enough to get us over the line with Durant or Leonard, and maybe Magic can build a functional roster around them for the next year or two. Let's hope so. |
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