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Harlemlakerfan
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| danzag wrote: | | JC/Hart should be our 2nd unit backcourt |
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Fracture
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| People really blaming Zo? When he came back in he set up Randle beautifully. They went cold, they gassed out. |
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mookielala
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If nothing else, i think we learned something with that lineup that came back. that was a completely different look for us, and it can work in the right situations.
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venturalakersfan
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I never thought I would ever post this but I think that Cousins would fit in here really well |
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Treble Clef
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| VujacicForThree wrote: | | Treble Clef wrote: | | VujacicForThree wrote: | | Why didn't Luke stay with the group that got them there. I don't understand why ball came back in. |
Because he's their point guard and the one they should be counting on for those situations. |
Always roll with the hot hand. JC at point is not ideal, but tonight it was working. |
Hindsight is 20/20. If Clarkson cools off which he probably would have, everyone would be wondering why Lonzo was on the bench.
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PhiberOptik
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Well, Lonzo is a rookie and that showed when he came in for BI.
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| Josh Hart's D and stability keyed things. When he came out it fell apart. Should have kept Hart in instead of bringing back KCP |
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Practice
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
I would definitely say the main reason we lost the game is because is because the Lakers let the Pelicans get a 20+ point lead on them and then went cold after they fought back. |
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adkindo
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| Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | I never thought I would ever post this but I think that Cousins would fit in here really well |
nah, I dont like his disgruntled face |
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kobeandgary
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| Fracture wrote: | | People really blaming Zo? When he came back in he set up Randle beautifully. They went cold, they gassed out. |
So did Clarkson. The problem is he also forced a drive and got blocked, tossed up an ugly wide open brick, gave up a three and killed our dribble penetration. |
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crazylakerfan001
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| Lonzo Ball is a special player, but sometimes you need let the hot lineup close it out. Luke needs to learn to roll with hot hand and make it an opportunity for Lonzo to observe from the bench and learn from it. |
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lakersfever714
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| Fracture wrote: | | People really blaming Zo? When he came back in he set up Randle beautifully. They went cold, they gassed out. |
And then he let Moore score on him with ease. JC was on fire. Should have went with him entire game. We could have stole that game from the Pelicans. |
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
He's the playmaker, he played decent D down the stretch, didn't have turnovers except for that block, and put the ball into places where the players should have made their shots. His poor shooting did hurt us, but you have to have faith in your franchise player. |
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yuurin98
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Loss is on Lonzo, but like what Byron Scott once said, we need to live and die by Lonzo. Getting on the court for the late game experience is going to be important for him. Lonzo's not stupid okay?
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kobeandgary
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| Practice wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
I would definitely say the main reason we lost the game is because is because the Lakers let the Pelicans get a 20+ point lead on them and then went cold after they fought back. |
For most of that duration Clarkson wasn't at the point guard either. |
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OCWA
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| Give Pelicans credit. They hit 3 to 4 tough contested shots to stay close and then pulled it out. |
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LakerLanny
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| OCWA wrote: | | Josh Hart's D and stability keyed things. When he came out it fell apart. Should have kept Hart in instead of bringing back KCP |
He is scrappy.
I thought Randle laid it on the line also in the second half. That second half he needs to bottle and repeat.
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lakersfever714
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| JC+Hart > KCP+Lonzo |
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mad55557777
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| Luke was pretty smart using JC as backup PG instead of Caruso and Ernis |
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kobeandgary
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| Sentient Meat wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
He's the playmaker, he played decent D down the stretch, didn't have turnovers except for that block, and put the ball into places where the players should have made their shots. His poor shooting did hurt us, but you have to have faith in your franchise player. |
Faith is fine, but he is also the reason we lost the game. |
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lakerfan2012
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Fracture wrote: | | People really blaming Zo? When he came back in he set up Randle beautifully. They went cold, they gassed out. |
So did Clarkson. The problem is he also forced a drive and got blocked, tossed up an ugly wide open brick, gave up a three and killed our dribble penetration. |
Everyone bricked some open shots, including JC and Kuzma, and JC also lost his dribble and turned it over down the stretch. EVERYONE went cold and made mistakes, not just Lonzo. This loss isn't on him. He could have played better for sure, but to pin this entire loss on him is just not right. |
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mookielala
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
I would definitely say the main reason we lost the game is because is because the Lakers let the Pelicans get a 20+ point lead on them and then went cold after they fought back. |
no one was really playing point. it was different each play. that worked really well.
For most of that duration Clarkson wasn't at the point guard either. |
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818fan
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| Candle has been upgraded to Randle in the 2nd half. |
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | Practice wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | Ball didn't cause them to lose this game, they just went cold.
Look at this way, our rookie with three games under his belt had a bad game and he still had more assists than any of our guards have had in years, and he should have way more if our players could shoot. |
He definitely lost us the game. If he wants to be our leader he sure better accept when a loss is on him. Getting blocked on a forced drive, giving up a three, shooting terrible bricks, slowing our offense, stopping our dribble penetration etc... |
I would definitely say the main reason we lost the game is because is because the Lakers let the Pelicans get a 20+ point lead on them and then went cold after they fought back. |
For most of that duration Clarkson wasn't at the point guard either. |
You're trying to pin the loss on Lonzo when the team as a whole was terrible and/or struggled. |
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