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MIMLaker Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:35 pm Post subject: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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Don't know what this means for our chances with LeBron, but here you go. Get in before the merge/ shift. |
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Annihilator Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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MIMLaker wrote: | Shams Bomb
Don't know what this means for our chances with LeBron, but here you go. Get in before the merge/ shift. | Good trade for the Celtics. They would have had a hard time keeping IT anyways (he is a free agent in summer 2018). This is a step up for the Celtics. _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
--Anonymous
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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MIMLaker wrote: | Shams Bomb
Don't know what this means for our chances with LeBron, but here you go. Get in before the merge/ shift. |
Holy crap. Boston looking legit. They were going nowhere with IT. Boston vs Cleveland just got really interesting. |
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Gatekeeper Star Player
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Vancouver Fan Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Wow.
Even though this should be in the general discussion imo. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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splashmtn Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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Ziggy wrote: | MIMLaker wrote: | Shams Bomb
Don't know what this means for our chances with LeBron, but here you go. Get in before the merge/ shift. |
Holy crap. Boston looking legit. They were going nowhere with IT. Boston vs Cleveland just got really interesting. | You do realize Kyrie has about as much defense as IT right? So if we all agree, they can both score like crazy. why will it matter? It wont. The cavs actually just got better.
The biggest issue with the cavs was a lack of depth. now Bron has an athletic young SF who can play defense and score a little bit. a legit player. IT is just a replacement for Kyrie. Gotta give Dan G some credit on this one. way to wait on the right deal. Bron is still out but hey. not bad. |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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I am not sure this trade makes either team that much better, but it makes a lot of sense for the cavs, especially they got that nets pick |
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shortodom Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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Ziggy wrote: | MIMLaker wrote: | Shams Bomb
Don't know what this means for our chances with LeBron, but here you go. Get in before the merge/ shift. |
Holy crap. Boston looking legit. They were going nowhere with IT. Boston vs Cleveland just got really interesting. |
Then if we get Lebron next year. Lakers Vs Celtics is back |
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audioaxes Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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thats a pretty decent haul for the Cavs considering the negotiating disadvantage Irving's trade demand put on them. However Cavs are now an even weaker team and may not even get to the finals this coming season. I would have tried to get a third team involved to take on IT for more picks/young talent and then if/when Lebron leaves next year try to get another pick for him in some kind of sign+trade deal. _________________ (bleep) Kawhi
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numero-ocho Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I think Cleveland has finally accepted LBJ is leaving. This is a trade for future more than a final playoff run.
I hope IT smokes the Celtics in the playoffs. _________________ "Suck it up. Don't be a baby. Do your job." - Kobe Bryant |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Cavs needed that pick. I think they compete this year and when LBJ leaves they decline to re sign IT. keep Crowder and a high draft pick. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Why? They want to compete. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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Wonder who would IT guard vs GS? kyrie is taller at least. Klay and curry can both shoot over him |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Huh? Say what? |
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LAkers 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Why? They want to compete. |
That's why they need to trade that Nets pick for Deng, a good locker room guy. |
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JamezAmp Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Interesting move for both teams |
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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numero-ocho wrote: | I think Cleveland has finally accepted LBJ is leaving. This is a trade for future more than a final playoff run.
I hope IT smokes the Celtics in the playoffs. |
They are basically starting to clear the books if they don't win a championship. Move gives them a lot more flexibility. Kind of funny, Cavs were gifted Lebron and have only won one championship. |
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:52 pm Post subject: |
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PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Which Butler on the Celtics is a legit star? I'm lost _________________ “Life is too short. You have to keep it moving.” - Kobe |
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Annihilator Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:57 pm Post subject: Re: BREAKING OT: Kyrie traded to Celtics for Isaiah, Crowder, Zizic, and Nets' unprotected 2018 pick. |
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splashmtn wrote: | You do realize Kyrie has about as much defense as IT right? So if we all agree, they can both score like crazy. why will it matter? It wont. The cavs actually just got better.
| Defensively, Kyrie is horrible but IT is much worse. ESPN's Real Plus Minus puts Kyrie at a -2.3 and IT at -3.89 (http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/DRPM/position/1). _________________ “When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
--Anonymous
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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1ngr4m wrote: | PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Which Butler on the Celtics is a legit star? I'm lost |
The "who says we didn't tamper" Butler duo of Hayward and coach Brad Stevens. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Celtics have Kyrie, Hayward and Horford while keeping all of their top assets from the last few drafts. They made a bold move while still holding on to pieces/assets that can be used for future moves to improve the team or said pieces will transition nicely in a few years. (bleep) Ainge. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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The Celtics will be a much better squad next year. (bleep) me. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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yinoma2001 wrote: | 1ngr4m wrote: | PICKnPOP wrote: | celtics now have two legit stars in kyrie and butler. Hey also have two young uo and coming players on the wings...maybe they should try and trade one for okafor? |
Which Butler on the Celtics is a legit star? I'm lost |
The "who says we didn't tamper" Butler duo of Hayward and coach Brad Stevens. |
My bad Hayward. |
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PICKnPOP Star Player
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:04 pm Post subject: |
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Okafor isn't as bad as the media makes him out to be...I wasn't an okafor guy during the draft but he seems to be seriously underrated now |
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