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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:43 pm    Post subject:

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If he doesn’t win a title here there is no statue or jersey retirement. He would just be another player who finished the tail end of his career here.


Agreed.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:33 pm    Post subject:

He needs to win a ring (or 2) to have his jersey retired here. That is the standard.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:43 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
He needs to win a ring (or 2) to have his jersey retired here. That is the standard.



Actually, we retired one player who hung it up before he won a ring (Elgin).

In any case, there isn't an official criteria for who we retire. There are only traditions. Jeanne can do whatever she wants.

Our strongest tradition is retired jerseys have to be in the Hall, and Lebron certainly will. So if Jeanne decides to retire his jersey, she (and the Lakers PR department) will have no trouble justifying it no matter how Lebron's career here plays out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:52 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:

If he doesn’t win a title here there is no statue or jersey retirement. He would just be another player who finished the tail end of his career here.


Agreed.


This.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 1:58 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
He needs to win a ring (or 2) to have his jersey retired here. That is the standard.



Actually, we retired one player who hung it up before he won a ring (Elgin).

In any case, there isn't an official criteria for who we retire. There are only traditions. Jeanne can do whatever she wants.

Our strongest tradition is retired jerseys have to be in the Hall, and Lebron certainly will. So if Jeanne decides to retire his jersey, she (and the Lakers PR department) will have no trouble justifying it no matter how Lebron's career here plays out.


Using that criteria would also open the conversation to players like Malone, Nash or McAdoo. They just don’t have as big a fan club.

Pretty sure the Wizards haven’t retired Jordan’s jersey or built a statue either.

But you are correct, Jeanne can do whatever she likes. Doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with it. Win a championship or two, then we can talk.

Honestly I’m hoping James can make it happen this year because I don’t think he can play at this level or more importantly Lakers can build a deep and talented enough team to carry him over the next couple years of his retirement tour. This year is the best and perhaps only chance IMO.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:02 pm    Post subject:

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Honestly I’m hoping James can make it happen this year because I don’t think he can play at this level or more importantly Lakers can build a deep and talented enough team to carry him over the next couple years of his retirement tour. This year is the best and perhaps only chance IMO.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:07 pm    Post subject:

LandsbergerRules wrote:
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Honestly I’m hoping James can make it happen this year because I don’t think he can play at this level or more importantly Lakers can build a deep and talented enough team to carry him over the next couple years of his retirement tour. This year is the best and perhaps only chance IMO.


Agreed.


x3. It’s not his fault either he’s 35.

Even with that spring in his step and having time off last playoffs, the younger athletic guys can still neutralize him.

Another reason to be patient with young guys and not trade them for name veterans who have lost more steps than 35 year old Lebron.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 2:59 pm    Post subject:

Four Decade Bandwagon wrote:
activeverb wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
He needs to win a ring (or 2) to have his jersey retired here. That is the standard.



Actually, we retired one player who hung it up before he won a ring (Elgin).

In any case, there isn't an official criteria for who we retire. There are only traditions. Jeanne can do whatever she wants.

Our strongest tradition is retired jerseys have to be in the Hall, and Lebron certainly will. So if Jeanne decides to retire his jersey, she (and the Lakers PR department) will have no trouble justifying it no matter how Lebron's career here plays out.


Using that criteria would also open the conversation to players like Malone, Nash or McAdoo. They just don’t have as big a fan club.

Pretty sure the Wizards haven’t retired Jordan’s jersey or built a statue either.

But you are correct, Jeanne can do whatever she likes. Doesn’t mean I’m going to agree with it. Win a championship or two, then we can talk.

Honestly I’m hoping James can make it happen this year because I don’t think he can play at this level or more importantly Lakers can build a deep and talented enough team to carry him over the next couple years of his retirement tour. This year is the best and perhaps only chance IMO.



I'd say the tradition is that we only retire Hall of Famers who made a significant contribution to the Lakers.

Some people think that means a ring. As far as James, personally I'll wait to see how his career here plays out. I could see an argument he deserves to be retired if, he, say, wins an MVP or breaks Kareem's scoring record amid a string of 4 or 5 strong seasons.

That said, I don't really have any specific criteria or benchmarks myself. I'll wait to see what happens and evaluate it then.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:12 pm    Post subject:

Good stuff LeBron!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:19 pm    Post subject:

Crickets.

I mean does he even have a work ethic and work on his game?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:20 pm    Post subject:

give me a little more on defense and we go on anther 10 game win streak
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:24 pm    Post subject:

The King does it again.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:48 pm    Post subject:

FT: Harden 18 - LeBron 5
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:53 pm    Post subject:

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FT: Harden 18 - LeBron 5

His entire game revolves around getting to the line, especially if his shot isn’t falling. I find his game to be tedious to watch. Talented to be sure…but tedious to watch.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:58 pm    Post subject:

He now needs 81 points to pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list. It looks like it will be on this road trip.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:25 pm    Post subject:

LeBron got asked if these wins without AD give the Lakers more confidence in themselves.

"No, because we can't beat teams with winning records. That's what they say, right?"


https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1218754154073477120

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:37 pm    Post subject:

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He now needs 81 points to pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list. It looks like it will be on this road trip.

Kobe woulda pass Kobe in one game
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:39 pm    Post subject:

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32 wrote:
He now needs 81 points to pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list. It looks like it will be on this road trip.

Kobe woulda pass Kobe in one game


Harden would threaten to pass Kobe in one game, then get completely benched at the end of the third so he can make the funniest faces imagining what could have been
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:09 pm    Post subject:

Probably at 76ers, unless he load manages a game, then it would look like home game vs. Clippers. I won't be surprised if he takes NYK game off.

Pretty fantastic to witness this!

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He now needs 81 points to pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list. It looks like it will be on this road trip.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:13 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Crickets.

I mean does he even have a work ethic and work on his game?


He hasn’t improved since his rookie season.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:29 pm    Post subject:

"MVP" chants tonight at Houston: https://www.nba.com/video/2020/01/18/0021900633-lal-hou-play-1


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 11:49 pm    Post subject:

Metro2Staples wrote:
Probably at 76ers, unless he load manages a game, then it would look like home game vs. Clippers. I won't be surprised if he takes NYK game off.

Pretty fantastic to witness this!

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He now needs 81 points to pass Kobe on the all-time scoring list. It looks like it will be on this road trip.

Not even Kawhi would load manage an MSG game. The Knicks stink, but it's still MSG.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:15 am    Post subject:

No (bleep) clue how the refs missed that obvious goal tend on Capela to end the first half. I was watching on my tiny IPhone screen and saw it, yet the refs somehow missed it. It wasn’t even close. Lebron should have had two more points.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:57 am    Post subject:

Beir32 wrote:
governator wrote:
FT: Harden 18 - LeBron 5

His entire game revolves around getting to the line, especially if his shot isn’t falling. I find his game to be tedious to watch. Talented to be sure…but tedious to watch.


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