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| GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison.
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GameCock-MD
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
As far as the skillset, it matches.
2017-2018, want to know who was #7 in assists/game? Draymond.
Want to know who was #8? Lonzo...as a ROOKIE.
Lonzo's defensive potential, glue mentality and ability to play a LOT of positions on both ends matches Draymond's skillset and impact on GSW.
If we trade him, there are a lot of teams hoping to get him for that reason.
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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| Lonzo needs to shoot 42-44%FG and 70%+ FT and we in bizness |
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The God Particle
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| GameCock-MD wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
I highly doubt that. |
Picks are always valued at premium. |
Wrong. Lonzo would go top 3 in this draft, easily. People know that Lonzo's best assets are growing. They have no idea what a pick will become. |
Stop!
Not even the Lakers would trade the #4 pick for Lonzo! |
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| Posted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Kobesystem wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
I highly doubt that. |
Picks are always valued at premium. |
Compared to what? Take an unknown, unproven prospect over a player who at the very least, has proved he can be a very good role player and plays with excellent iq and defense? |
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| He’ll be very valuable if we get into a playoff series with the Warriors next year. His length on defense will likely be the best shot we have at slowing down the splash brothers. They might be better without KD and you don’t stand a chance defending them with the small guards like the Blazers have. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
If he can stay healthy.
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 7:30 am Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
If he can stay healthy. |
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| Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
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| tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
If you're looking for logic, you've come to the wrong place. |
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| Day wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
I dont want to trade ball for the 7th pick but come on, trading dlo is still one of the best decisions this team made. Without that trade we dont have enough capspcae for a max player right now and we dont have Kuz/Hart (whomever you think we would of picked). Dlo is so overrated |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 8:34 am Post subject: |
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| I think there are plenty of indications that, unlike some fans, people in the NBA understand and appreciate what Lonzo brings to a team. Vogel expressed his excitement about the young players, and I'm sure Lonzo is a big part of that, particularly because Vogel spoke about the importance of passing. Kidd's probably coming on board mostly to work with Lonzo (and lurk in the shadows awaiting his chance to take over), he must believe in Lonzo's talent. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:30 am Post subject: |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Day wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
I dont want to trade ball for the 7th pick but come on, trading dlo is still one of the best decisions this team made. Without that trade we dont have enough capspcae for a max player right now and we dont have Kuz/Hart (whomever you think we would of picked). Dlo is so overrated |
Do people actually still believe that nonsense? Look what happened to Mozgov, it would’ve been much cheaper to get rid of him more recently. Deng as well which is why we shouldn’t have stretched him. No DLO>Hart and it’s not even close. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:45 am Post subject: |
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| BigGameHames wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Day wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
I dont want to trade ball for the 7th pick but come on, trading dlo is still one of the best decisions this team made. Without that trade we dont have enough capspcae for a max player right now and we dont have Kuz/Hart (whomever you think we would of picked). Dlo is so overrated |
Do people actually still believe that nonsense? Look what happened to Mozgov, it would’ve been much cheaper to get rid of him more recently. Deng as well which is why we shouldn’t have stretched him. No DLO>Hart and it’s not even close. |
The DLO is the worst trade in Lakers history. Getting Kuzma as part of the deal was pure luck and saved the Lakers from any further embarrassment.
Trading Ball would be more catastrophic than the DLO trade. Ball is a potential Hall of Famer. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 9:51 am Post subject: |
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| AFireInside619 wrote: | | BigGameHames wrote: | | Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Day wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
I dont want to trade ball for the 7th pick but come on, trading dlo is still one of the best decisions this team made. Without that trade we dont have enough capspcae for a max player right now and we dont have Kuz/Hart (whomever you think we would of picked). Dlo is so overrated |
Do people actually still believe that nonsense? Look what happened to Mozgov, it would’ve been much cheaper to get rid of him more recently. Deng as well which is why we shouldn’t have stretched him. No DLO>Hart and it’s not even close. |
The DLO is the worst trade in Lakers history. Getting Kuzma as part of the deal was pure luck and saved the Lakers from any further embarrassment.
Trading Ball would be more catastrophic than the DLO trade. Ball is a potential Hall of Famer. |
Magic touched on it in his interview yesterday saying “ball is a great all-around point guard”.
We haven’t really seen a player like Lonzo at the Point guard position. So it’s difficult for fans to imagine what he could be when he puts it all together. It’s easier to fantasize about small ball dominant guards who shoot well because they have seen it successful.
I predict that the narrative on Lonzo changes after next season.
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| No trading Lonzo pls ty |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:20 am Post subject: |
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| I'm OK with the DLO trade unless we strike out in FA. Dont hate me. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:24 am Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | I'm OK with the DLO trade unless we strike out in FA. Dont hate me. |
DLO DIED FOR YOUR SINS!!!! |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| danzag wrote: | | epak wrote: | | I'm OK with the DLO trade unless we strike out in FA. Dont hate me. |
DLO DIED FOR YOUR SINS!!!! |
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| Lucky_Shot wrote: | | Day wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | Kobesystem wrote: | | tkLAKERS wrote: | | mhan00 wrote: | | Lakerchaq wrote: | Bulls want Lonzo for the 7th pick!
That would be a fantastic trade. |
For the Bulls, yes. The Lakers are far better off keeping Lonzo, unless we know for sure that BI, 4, and 7 will be enough to get AD to team up with Lebron and Kawhi. Otherwise, hard pass. |
It’s like we didn’t learn anything from the D’Angelo trade. |
#4 + #7 is worth more than #4 and lonzo in any trade deal |
If that’s the case, why would the Bulls give us #7 for Lonzo? |
https://media.giphy.com/media/xT0xeJpnrWC4XWblEk/giphy.gif |
I dont want to trade ball for the 7th pick but come on, trading dlo is still one of the best decisions this team made. Without that trade we dont have enough capspcae for a max player right now and we dont have Kuz/Hart (whomever you think we would of picked). Dlo is so overrated |
Rather have DLO than Kuzma or Hart. They are vastly overrated.
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
Except Draymond is a tough, very vocal, durable player. |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
Except Draymond is a tough, very vocal, durable player. |
Draymond wasn't even in the NBA at this age and he didn't play much his 1st 2 years
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:10 pm Post subject: |
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| LBJ23 wrote: | | OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
Except Draymond is a tough, very vocal, durable player. |
Draymond wasn't even in the NBA at this age and he didn't play much his 1st 2 years |
Fair but I'm not the one who cast the comparison. You can't pick and choose like that. |
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| Posted: Tue May 21, 2019 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| OC Lakerfan wrote: | | LBJ23 wrote: | | OC Lakerfan wrote: | | Vancouver Fan wrote: | | GameCock-MD wrote: | | Lonzo is the Draymond Green type impact player for a Championship team. |
I really like the Draymond comparison. |
Except Draymond is a tough, very vocal, durable player. |
Draymond wasn't even in the NBA at this age and he didn't play much his 1st 2 years |
Fair but I'm not the one who cast the comparison. You can't pick and choose like that. |
We won't know until he is on a playoff team. It is a very fair comparison. They both do the same things well. Lonzo might not be a vocal leader like dray but when he is playing well you can tell the team feeds off it and plays better
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