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| Amazing last sequence. Real tense. Imo Lalo didn't buy that story even after Kim lashed out on him. He admired that those two protected each other because they are family. Like how Lola said to Hector Salamanca "Family is everything". |
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| jodeke wrote: | | A thing that's puzzled me. Fring got his face blown off in BB. Where do he and Hector fit in the timeline in BCS? |
Based on some other things that were said I think we're still before the events of BB. Lalo told Hector his nephew, Tuco, would be getting out of prison soon. Tuco was Walt and Jesse's first real contact with the cartel when they approached him to be a distributor for they're blue meth because they couldn't sell it fast enough on their own. That was halfway into S1 of BB.
Fring doesn't appear in BB until near the end of S2. By then, his lab is finished and ready to go into production. Perhaps at some point in S6 of BCS, events will run parallel to S1 of BB.
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Another thing I noticed. Jimmy’s Esteem (the car) dies and then he’s basically the most broken he’s ever been. That car was the last of Jimmy’s belief in Jimmy and it’s when he has to go all in on Saul.
We also saw Jesse and Walt get new cars when they went through a transitional period. |
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| Palin wrote: | | Amazing last sequence. Real tense. Imo Lalo didn't buy that story even after Kim lashed out on him. He admired that those two protected each other because they are family. Like how Lola said to Hector Salamanca "Family is everything". |
I think she has him second guessing his own people now, which means Nacho is probably in his crosshairs.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| loslakersss wrote: | Another thing I noticed. Jimmy’s Esteem (the car) dies and then he’s basically the most broken he’s ever been. That car was the last of Jimmy’s belief in Jimmy and it’s when he has to go all in on Saul.
We also saw Jesse and Walt get new cars when they went through a transitional period. |
Enter Saul's Cadillac. Jimmy's Esteem >>> Saul's Cadillac
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| Wilt wrote: | The scene with Saul, Lalo, and Kim. Perfection. Television doesn't get better than that.
I now hope she somehow survives this and reunites with him in the present. |
Did Kim impress Lalo so much that he begins to turn to her over Jimmy for legal help? |
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Just saw the last episode. Those last 5 minutes...jaysis!
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| AD23 wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | loslakersss wrote: | | I thought it was Juan Bolsa that sent the guys so Lalo would stay in prison. |
That's what Fring said to Mike after getting off the phone with Bolsa. I think you're right. |
There is no "I think", Gus confirmed it was Bolsa that sent the men. Bolsa probably got tipped off by the guy that handed the money to the twin assassins. Right after they left he called someone and said you might be interested in .... |
Yeah, the question is who was a he calling. And Bolsa is the only thing that makes sense.
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| jonnybravo wrote: | | Just saw the last episode. Those last 5 minutes...jaysis! |
Yep. The dynamic in the Lalo/Jimmy/Kim relationship just did cartwheels. Lalo has gone from a dismissive yet respectful view of Kim for her stupid move to try and find Jimmy and making herself known (and what she knows) to one of admiration for her bravery, intelligence and cunning. Lalo knows where the real smarts in that relationship are, and who is up the task when the (bleep) goes down.
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| Lalo reminds me of Hans Landa from Inglourious Basterds. So charming but also so unpredictable and menacing. |
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What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him?
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Pssssssst! We already know how this ends...
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| Buck32 wrote: | What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him? |
probably the same reason Gus stopped Mike from sniping Hector in the desert.
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| Buck32 wrote: | What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him? |
I don't think Mike was there specifically to protect Jimmy and Kim. I think his job was more to make sure that Lalo didn't find out any damaging info from Jimmy, which is why he wanted to listen in.
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| C M B wrote: | | Buck32 wrote: | What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him? |
probably the same reason Gus stopped Mike from sniping Hector in the desert. |
Gus was at that moment not stopping Mike from killing Lalo if Lalo tried something with Jimmy and Kim. Or was it Mike going rogue because he likes Jimmy?
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| Omar Little wrote: | | Pssssssst! We already know how this ends... |
We know . . . we know . . . The Wire is "better". But we are enjoying this show.
  
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Buck32 wrote: | What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him? |
I don't think Mike was there specifically to protect Jimmy and Kim. I think his job was more to make sure that Lalo didn't find out any damaging info from Jimmy, which is why he wanted to listen in. |
So he was going to kill Jimmy and Kim, why was he aiming at Lalo then?? If Jimmy or Kim revealed Gus involvement, would Mike have killed them? Then Lalo would've been suspicious and he may also have to kill him.
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| Buck32 wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | Buck32 wrote: | What I don't get is this. Gus didn't want to touch Lalo because the cartel will trace it back to him. Also the reason why Mike followed Jimmy to Mexico to make sure the bail money safely gets through.
SO why was Mike ready to shoot Lalo at Jimmy's house if Lalo did anything to Jimmy and Kim? Wouldn't that be the same as killing Lalo before? So Gus would be willing to risk deviating from his plan for Lalo just to save Jimmy and Kim, who really don't mean anything to him? |
I don't think Mike was there specifically to protect Jimmy and Kim. I think his job was more to make sure that Lalo didn't find out any damaging info from Jimmy, which is why he wanted to listen in. |
So he was going to kill Jimmy and Kim, why was he aiming at Lalo then?? If Jimmy or Kim revealed Gus involvement, would Mike have killed them? Then Lalo would've been suspicious and he may also have to kill him. |
No, he was going to kill Lalo if he started to find anything out . . . he didn't, so he didn't pull the trigger.
If he was just there to protect Jimmy, there'd be no reason to call Jimmy and tell him he wanted to hear what was going on and risk detection having Lalo seeing the open phone line. He'd just watch through the window and act if Lalo started to get violent. Hearing what was going on was the goal.
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| In a way he was protecting Jimmy. Now he has proof for Gus that Jimmy can keep his mouth shut and doesn’t need to be “dealt with” if that’s something that Gus brings up down the road. This was more of an inadvertent side effect rather than part of Mike’s plan though (most likely). |
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| Mike clearly has a small soft spot for Jimmy. I agree that he was not there to solely protect Jimmy, but I think he would prefer Jimmy was not harmed. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Mike clearly has a small soft spot for Jimmy. I agree that he was not there to solely protect Jimmy, but I think he would prefer Jimmy was not harmed. |
I think so too. Mike had Lalo locked in. I think between Lalo and Bolsa, Lalo will bite the dust.
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That episode was maybe the best of the series. Do Lalo and Nacho both survive to the BB timeline? I think Lalo goes after Nacho’s dad now and then Nacho tries to kill Fring as revenge.
Also it’s almost all but guaranteed that Jimmy pushes Kim away because he knows he will bring her down. Her telling him Howard was concerned is a factor. Jimmy hates him but he’s gonna know he has a point. Or Kim ends up ruining Howard and then gets caught and goes to prison. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Mike clearly has a small soft spot for Jimmy. I agree that he was not there to solely protect Jimmy, but I think he would prefer Jimmy was not harmed. |
I think so too. Mike had Lalo locked in. I think between Lalo and Bolsa, Lalo will bite the dust. |
I've already mentioned earlier that Bolsa survives well into season 3 of BB.
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| loslakersss wrote: | That episode was maybe the best of the series. Do Lalo and Nacho both survive to the BB timeline? I think Lalo goes after Nacho’s dad now and then Nacho tries to kill Fring as revenge.
Also it’s almost all but guaranteed that Jimmy pushes Kim away because he knows he will bring her down. Her telling him Howard was concerned is a factor. Jimmy hates him but he’s gonna know he has a point. Or Kim ends up ruining Howard and then gets caught and goes to prison. |
It was pretty tense when Nacho snuck out of the house and finds Lalo chilling in the yard. The whole time, I was thinking Lalo was one step ahead of him.
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| loslakersss wrote: | That episode was maybe the best of the series. Do Lalo and Nacho both survive to the BB timeline? I think Lalo goes after Nacho’s dad now and then Nacho tries to kill Fring as revenge.
Also it’s almost all but guaranteed that Jimmy pushes Kim away because he knows he will bring her down. Her telling him Howard was concerned is a factor. Jimmy hates him but he’s gonna know he has a point. Or Kim ends up ruining Howard and then gets caught and goes to prison. |
It was certainly one of the better ones. I was a little put off because once Mike said to Jimmy that Lalo was going to be killed, I knew it was going to fail, but the way they made it work even though you knew what was going to happen was excellent. It certainly sets up an interesting dynamic for the final season. The Lalo/Nacho/Gus triangle is going to get ugly for sure. I expect a few episodes of cat and mouse there. And it will be fun to see what happens with Howard. I definitely think they ruin him. It makes sense that every aspect of Jimmy's past goes up in flames, so we shall see what that means for Kim.
Now comes that interminable wait until next year.
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