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DaggerInTheHeart Star Player
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 1459 Location: Sunshine State
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:36 pm Post subject: Mitch Kupchak speaks |
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Sounds like a trade is a possiblity!
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Quote: | And as for the salary cap, and its impact on a deal, "it's difficult [trading] a young player for an old player," Mitch said, and OK, so if that means Devean George has to go, I'll get over it.
IT HAS BEEN easy, of course, to criticize Mitch. He's not Jerry West, for a start, doesn't have the number of trophies that Buss and Jackson have, and for frustrated Laker fans, that leaves Mitch. On occasion Kobe takes the heat, and most every day it could be Brown, but then who brought Brown to L.A.?
are a work in progress, and while I wonder if Jackson's heart is in this for the long haul, the future really does hang on Mitch's ability to make the right moves.
"You have to see the future, but can't go so far out that the fans can't see what you want to do," Mitch said. "We want to do something, but you don't want to take unnecessary risks just to get to the second or third rounds of the playoffs — like giving away two or three young players."
"Does that make Andrew Bynum untouchable in a trade?"
"I don't want to get into specific names, but we think Andrew is a little bit ahead of the curve and we're very pleased with where he is in his development."
Tell that to Jackson ...
"I don't think he's a project that's going to take four or five years down the road," Mitch said. "We're going to get something out of him earlier than that. You don't find centers very often in this game, and he's a true center."
Sounds to me as if he's untouchable, but then it was time to let Mitch go, "not much time here for fun," he said. Oh yeah, try sitting through a Laker game these days. |
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Bergamotichek Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Keep the stupid moron comments to yourself. I'm tired of reading commentary from the stupid patrol.
You got something intelligent to add, whether pro or con, please feel free to. You want to dumb down the board, find another board. |
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Dennis_D LG Contributor
Joined: 12 Apr 2001 Posts: 2017 Location: North Dallas
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Mitch Kupchak speaks |
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DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | Sounds like a trade is a possiblity! |
If you listen to Mitch, everything is possible and nothing is probable. Here is a guide to Mitchspeak. _________________ <-- My avatar is Margaret Nolan from one of the Carry On films. She was the girl who got painted gold in "Goldfinger". Thanks to CaliRyderX for identifying her. |
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Sage_10 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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Sounds like Mitch is trying to justify not pulling the trigger on some potential trades. Can't blame him for finally speaking out. |
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MrLaker83 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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JD wrote: | Keep the stupid moron comments to yourself. I'm tired of reading commentary from the stupid patrol.
You got something intelligent to add, whether pro or con, please feel free to. You want to dumb down the board, find another board. |
I dont get it, what did he say? or are u refering to simers? |
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Lionel The Laker Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Mitch will make a trade or trades. |
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Bergamotichek Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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Sage_10 wrote: | Sounds like Mitch is trying to justify not pulling the trigger on some potential trades. Can't blame him for finally speaking out. |
I don't think any GM knows for sure what they're doing right now. Lot of talk around the league about potential deals and sounds like everyone is baiting everyone else, trying to drive up the price of whomever they're trying to get rid of.
More posturing that any actual deal making going on. |
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DaggerInTheHeart Star Player
Joined: 06 Feb 2006 Posts: 1459 Location: Sunshine State
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Lionel The Laker wrote: | Mitch will make a trade or trades. |
Well let's hope he makes a trade and it's a good one! |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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JD wrote: | Keep the stupid moron comments to yourself. I'm tired of reading commentary from the stupid patrol.
You got something intelligent to add, whether pro or con, please feel free to. You want to dumb down the board, find another board. |
Yes Faather!
He makes these types of comments every year around this time...can't really fault the man in the middle...
Buss comes up with a plan.
Phil narrows the trade bait.
Buss FURTHER narrows the trade bait.
Mitch is left with beans at the market place trying to buy cows...
At least he hasn't made a BUNCH of BAD trades like Isiah Thomas!!! _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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Bystander Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Lionel The Laker wrote: | Mitch will make a trade or trades. |
It's almost rumour in the making...100 pages KG thread to follow.
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Luke Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | "Due to our age, probably a veteran player, who could help us in terms of taking some of the scoring load, making defensive plays — big defensive plays," Mitch said. "I would think a backcourt player."
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Who could be this player ? |
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Kobina returns Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Mitch is doing his best. It's not like he's sitting around and doing nothing. Hopefully he comes up with something that will help the Lakers soon. _________________ To win the title, Lakers will have to overcome the world. |
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mitch&kwame Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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Lionel The Laker wrote: | Mitch will make a trade or trades. |
How sure are you? Is that a "trade MUST be made" or is it "they really would like to move some players"...? _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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Lionel The Laker Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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A trade will happen. Its that simple. Just sit back. |
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ShadyG Star Player
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abc Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Luke wrote: | Quote: | "Due to our age, probably a veteran player, who could help us in terms of taking some of the scoring load, making defensive plays — big defensive plays," Mitch said. "I would think a backcourt player."
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How about Trenton Hassell? He's the best veteran backcourt defender who might be available (if Minny gives up on the season and wants to give PT to McCants), plus he's developed a damn good outside jumper.
I don't know what Minny would want from us (or if apeman would even agree to a trade with his hated Lakers) -- maybe last year's and draft picks if we also take on Jaric's or Hudson's contract?
If not Hassell, I guess Minny still has Spree's rights for S&T purposes. I'm not sure if he can still play defense, but a couple of years ago he fit Mitch's description of what we need. Of course, so did McKie.... _________________ KB81: "The offense is like the Matrix to me. I'm like Neo; I can move it around however I want it to be."
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:16 pm Post subject: |
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Lionel The Laker wrote: | A trade will happen. Its that simple. Just sit back. |
Yes SIR! _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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abc wrote: | Luke wrote: | Quote: | "Due to our age, probably a veteran player, who could help us in terms of taking some of the scoring load, making defensive plays — big defensive plays," Mitch said. "I would think a backcourt player."
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How about Trenton Hassell? He's the best veteran backcourt defender who might be available (if Minny gives up on the season and wants to give PT to McCants), plus he's developed a damn good outside jumper.
I don't know what Minny would want from us (or if apeman would even agree to a trade with his hated Lakers) -- maybe last year's and draft picks if we also take on Jaric's or Hudson's contract? |
With about half of the team in the backcourt currently, wouldn't it be smart to move some of these guys INSTEAD of DG? Say, Luke/Devin Green or Sasha with Slava's contract? _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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FloppyDiskz Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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my guess on the veteran backcourt speculation - Grant Hill....Yeah yeah, he's a small forward, but he'd look mighty fine with a Ron Harper type of role. |
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Luke Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Slava and Walton would be enough for Hassel, if they want to dump salary, but at this point, give us KG
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Ziggy Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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The Lakers are a franchise like no other. While most of us Lakers fans sit here and wish for quick-fixes to improve this team, the management is only looking for pieces to make them title contenders. So I can understand why fans get frustrated when they see all these other teams wheelin' and dealin', making moves to help them in the short term.
It takes a bold GM and a bold owner to show the kind of patience Dr. Buss and Mitch are showing. I'm not saying I agree with what they're doing or disagree, but all I can do is hope that their patience pays off in the end. |
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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KMart is looking pretty good right now... _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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GameCock-MD Star Player
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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KMart has the SPRING back in his step!!!!!!! _________________ Build around team players, not ISO players. |
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abc Starting Rotation
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Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:28 pm Post subject: |
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Luke wrote: | Quote: | "Due to our age, probably a veteran player, who could help us in terms of taking some of the scoring load, making defensive plays — big defensive plays," Mitch said. "I would think a backcourt player."
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Mitch's requirements:
- veteran
- backcourt player
- can make big defensive plays
- help with scoring
Possibilities who might actually be available:
- Trenton Hassell
- Earl Watson
- Spree
- Ron Artest (supposedly he and Bibby already don't like each other)
- Jaric (compared to Smush and Sasha, Jaric is a decent defender)
- D. Anderson (can he still play D?)
- Ty Lue (he can guard small PGs and knows the triangle)
- Steve Francis (I put him at the bottom of the list because it seems that Mitch's emphasis is D rather than scoring) _________________ KB81: "The offense is like the Matrix to me. I'm like Neo; I can move it around however I want it to be."
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