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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 3:47 pm    Post subject:

I love when people have signs that make no sense. Some desperate righty around here had a bunch of lawn signs made they’ve been sticking everywhere with a horrible picture of Biden that says “No Biden. Higher taxes. Less Social Security”. What.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 7:22 pm    Post subject:

Cunningham up by 6 over Tillis in the latest YouGov poll.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2020 8:32 pm    Post subject:

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On the rare occasions I headed outside recently have seen a pick up truck driving around waving the Trump flags loud and proud...never see any fanfare for Biden/Harris. Still though more a sign of desperation knowing their side is losing and trying to swing any last minute undecideds?


Well, if you found a redneck in a pickup with a trump flag, obviously we are all (bleep).
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:13 am    Post subject:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/26/politics/senate-confirmation-vote-supreme-court-amy-coney-barrett/index.html

All the BS they spewed in 2016 and they pull this stunt. (bleep) em and I hope they are ruined come Election Day.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:19 am    Post subject:

USA Today: Trump’s campaign made stops nationwide. Coronavirus cases surged in his wake in at least five places.

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As President Donald Trump jetted across the country holding campaign rallies during the past two months, he didn’t just defy state orders and federal health guidelines. He left a trail of coronavirus outbreaks in his wake.

The president has participated in nearly three dozen rallies since mid-August, all but two at airport hangars. A USA TODAY analysis shows COVID-19 cases grew at a faster rate than before after at least five of those rallies in the following counties: Blue Earth, Minnesota; Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; Marathon, Wisconsin; Dauphin, Pennsylvania; and Beltrami, Minnesota.


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Together, those counties saw 1,500 more new cases in the two weeks following Trump’s rallies than the two weeks before – 9,647 cases, up from 8,069.

Public health officials additionally have linked 16 cases, including two hospitalizations, with the rally in Beltrami County, Minnesota, and one case with the rally in Marathon County, Wisconsin. Outside of the counties identified by USA TODAY with a greater case increase after rallies, officials identified four cases linked to Trump rallies.


Yesterday Trump's chief of staff admitted they have no plan to prevent spread of COVID. And this is what Trump tweeted this morning:

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7:36 AM · Oct 26, 2020

We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election. COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers.Should be an election law violation!


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Three BIG Rallies today. Heading to Pennsylvania. I have plenty to say about the dishonesty of the Media and Sleepy Joe. A terrible coverup is happening in our Country!!!


He is killing people and he doesn't care.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 4:48 am    Post subject:

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Political Polls @PpollingNumbers

#NEW @YouGovAmerica/@ElectionsCenter Poll:

Wisconsin:
Biden 52% (+10)
Trump 42%

Michigan:
Biden 53% (+9)
Trump 44%

Pennsylvania:
Biden 52% (+8)
Trump 44%


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:04 am    Post subject:

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He is killing people and he doesn't care.


And he's putting such strain on our poor health care workers.

He is stimulating the economy though--that would be the funeral homes, the mortuary business, and casket making.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:23 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
He is killing people and he doesn't care.


More importantly, neither does the GOP and 43% of the citizens.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:35 am    Post subject:

8 days to go: Biden's lead over Trump is holding, while Clinton's was collapsing at this point

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(CNN)The clock is running out on President Donald Trump's chances for a comeback. He continues to trail former Vice President Joe Biden nationally and in the key swing states with just eight days to go.

But perhaps most worrisome for the President: Trump's clearly behind his 2016 pace. By this point four years ago, he was rapidly closing the gap with Hillary Clinton. No such advancements can be seen in the 2020 polling against Biden.

Right now, Biden is up by about 9 to 10 points nationally, depending on the average you examine. He is, importantly, over 50%. Biden's edge may be down a point or so from early October, though it is well within the historical average from the beginning of the year.

The 2016 campaign, on the other hand, was in great flux at this time. Among a bunch of factors, the James Comey letter "investigating emails on Anthony Weiner's laptop that were potentially related to a probe of Hillary Clinton's use of a private server" had just been published by this point in the 2016 campaign. No such bombshells of that magnitude have come out this year.

Clinton's advantage was down to only about 4 points in the national average 9 days from Election Day 2016. Her advantage had been as high as 7 points with about 21 days to go. Clinton's 45% vote share was low enough that it left Trump with a lot of room in the final week of the campaign to corral voters who favored neither candidate at this point.

All Biden really needs to do right now to win is hold onto the voters that he has.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:41 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
USA Today: Trump’s campaign made stops nationwide. Coronavirus cases surged in his wake in at least five places.

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As President Donald Trump jetted across the country holding campaign rallies during the past two months, he didn’t just defy state orders and federal health guidelines. He left a trail of coronavirus outbreaks in his wake.

The president has participated in nearly three dozen rallies since mid-August, all but two at airport hangars. A USA TODAY analysis shows COVID-19 cases grew at a faster rate than before after at least five of those rallies in the following counties: Blue Earth, Minnesota; Lackawanna, Pennsylvania; Marathon, Wisconsin; Dauphin, Pennsylvania; and Beltrami, Minnesota.


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Together, those counties saw 1,500 more new cases in the two weeks following Trump’s rallies than the two weeks before – 9,647 cases, up from 8,069.

Public health officials additionally have linked 16 cases, including two hospitalizations, with the rally in Beltrami County, Minnesota, and one case with the rally in Marathon County, Wisconsin. Outside of the counties identified by USA TODAY with a greater case increase after rallies, officials identified four cases linked to Trump rallies.


Yesterday Trump's chief of staff admitted they have no plan to prevent spread of COVID. And this is what Trump tweeted this morning:

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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump 7:36 AM · Oct 26, 2020

We have made tremendous progress with the China Virus, but the Fake News refuses to talk about it this close to the Election. COVID, COVID, COVID is being used by them, in total coordination, in order to change our great early election numbers.Should be an election law violation!


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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Three BIG Rallies today. Heading to Pennsylvania. I have plenty to say about the dishonesty of the Media and Sleepy Joe. A terrible coverup is happening in our Country!!!


He is killing people and he doesn't care.



He's the Orange Plague.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 6:44 am    Post subject:

Macho Trump and his toxic male supporters are a bunch of circle jerks.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:14 am    Post subject:

I know everyone is worried about a 2016 repeat of polls being off some in swing states

Here’s an article that takes the 2016 state level polling errors and moves them to 2020

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A repeat of the 2016 polling error would see Biden win with a 342 electoral vote landslide


https://fortune.com/2020/10/26/trump-biden-polls-who-will-win-2020-election-2016-polling-error-pennsylvania-florida-michigan-wisconsin-arizona-ohio-north-carolina-iowa-clinton/

And that’s using RCP, which is much friendlier to Trump than 538.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 7:30 am    Post subject:

I have zero trust in polls. I truly believe people are under estimate closet Trump voters. they would tell their friends and family the other way, but vote for Trump ultimately. There are a ton of these people out there.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:10 am    Post subject:

Trump supporters... I mean cult members really are something else.

https://twitter.com/waltermasterson/status/1320425271464439808?s=21
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:13 am    Post subject:

Freddie Buckets wrote:
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So there’s nothing to stop The SC confirmation?


correct


How will Amy Barrett Cohen help Trump’s wishful re-election? What’s Trump’s game here?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 8:59 am    Post subject:

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I have zero trust in polls. I truly believe people are under estimate closet Trump voters. they would tell their friends and family the other way, but vote for Trump ultimately. There are a ton of these people out there.


I trust the polls to an extent. They measure a moment in time. The danger comes in projecting that measure of the moment to predicting actual future results without weighing in everything else. Not a really big problem, expect when it comes with added probabilities like "Biden has an 86%" chance of winning. I just think it gives a false sense of surety that can be problematic.

It's not that polls are wrong, they just aren't exactly right either.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:07 am    Post subject:

Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Freddie Buckets wrote:
governator wrote:
So there’s nothing to stop The SC confirmation?


correct


How will Amy Barrett Cohen help Trump’s wishful re-election? What’s Trump’s game here?


She can rule in his favor in a court fight.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:11 am    Post subject:

Omar Little wrote:
Lonzo-Lite wrote:
Freddie Buckets wrote:
governator wrote:
So there’s nothing to stop The SC confirmation?


correct


How will Amy Barrett Cohen help Trump’s wishful re-election? What’s Trump’s game here?


She will rule in his favor in a court fight.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:29 am    Post subject:

That 60 minutes clip with Trump is something else. It amazes me how anyone can be proud to have a man that weak as our President.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:42 am    Post subject:

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That 60 minutes clip with Trump is something else. It amazes me how anyone can be proud to have a man that weak as our President.


The "tough bravado" he tries to project has always been a very thin veil for the immaturity and obvious insecurities he has within.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 9:59 am    Post subject:

The only change in dynamics that I am worried about now is not some last second scandal, it's the Q3 GDP that will be released on Thursday. Trump will promote the heck out of it, even though there is a projected weakening in Q4. It might persuade some traditional Republicans who are leaning Biden to reevaluate.

Fortunately, tens of millions of people will have voted by Thursday.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:07 am    Post subject:

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The only change in dynamics that I am worried about now is not some last second scandal, it's the Q3 GDP that will be released on Thursday. Trump will promote the heck out of it, even though there is a projected weakening in Q4. It might persuade some traditional Republicans who are leaning Biden to reevaluate.

Fortunately, tens of millions of people will have voted by Thursday.


It's the last part that is keeping me encouraged.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:17 am    Post subject:

Well if you want to worry a bit a B- rated pollster released a poll today showing Trump up 2% in Pennsylvania. Biden was +3 in this poll previously. This poll was done for a conservative organization, but it was done by a decently rated independent pollster. Meanwhile other polls showing a decent Biden lead. Not something to go crazy over, but certainly something to watch with how important Pennsylvania is going to be.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:18 am    Post subject:

The economy improved in the 3rd quarter, but overall, this year, it has contracted (shrunk) by about 5%.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 10:24 am    Post subject:

FernieBee wrote:
Macho Trump and his toxic male supporters are a bunch of circle jerks.


FB, You're so colorful. Which male wins.
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