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trmiv Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | After giving up on Michigan, there is talk that Trump is giving up on Wisconsin as well.
Pennsylvania might be where the election is decided.
But there is a way for Trump to win Pennsylvania and still lose the election, providing Biden wins Arizona and both congressional districts in Maine or one congressional district in Nebraska. |
That 270-268 map is nightmare fuel. That’s the exact kind of map Trump would use to steal the election via the Supreme Court. |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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For those who think an attempt is unlikely, remember that Roberts, Kavanaugh, and coney Barret worked for Bush to stop the Florida recount, and the first two worked for Ken Starr (Kavanaugh was actually tasked with finding inflammatory questions to ask. Ironic isn’t it?). _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
Joined: 10 Dec 2006 Posts: 52656 Location: Making a safety stop at 15 feet.
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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trmiv wrote: | Wilt wrote: | After giving up on Michigan, there is talk that Trump is giving up on Wisconsin as well.
Pennsylvania might be where the election is decided.
But there is a way for Trump to win Pennsylvania and still lose the election, providing Biden wins Arizona and both congressional districts in Maine or one congressional district in Nebraska. |
That 270-268 map is nightmare fuel. That’s the exact kind of map Trump would use to steal the election via the Supreme Court. |
Whatever the electoral map looks like, he's going to do that anyway. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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ChefLinda Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 24166 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:27 pm Post subject: |
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Omar Little wrote: | For those who think an attempt is unlikely, remember that Roberts, Kavanaugh, and coney Barret worked for Bush to stop the Florida recount, and the first two worked for Ken Starr (Kavanaugh was actually tasked with finding inflammatory questions to ask. Ironic isn’t it?). |
I was just coming here to post that:
Quote: | Ari Berman @AriBerman
Amy Coney Barrett, John Roberts & Brett Kavanaugh all worked on George W. Bush‘s legal team during 2000 recount in Florida & worked to stop votes from being counted |
link to article |
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FernieBee Star Player
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Kavanaugh is a liar and a hypocrite...or a hypocrite and a liar, depending on when you start to assess his "legal" career. _________________ Garvey, Lopes, Cey, Russell |
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SweetP Star Player
Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 6054 Location: My own little piece of reality
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | John Regier @jrregier
With the exception of Thurgood Marshall, no Supreme Court justice did more to realize the Constitution’s promise of “equal protection of the law” than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. |
And as people are responding, in retaliation, the GOP replaced them with Clarence Thomas and Amy Coney Barrett. _________________ “There is always light if only we're brave enough to see it, if only we're brave enough to be it.” --Amanda Gorman |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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SweetP wrote: | Quote: | John Regier @jrregier
With the exception of Thurgood Marshall, no Supreme Court justice did more to realize the Constitution’s promise of “equal protection of the law” than Ruth Bader Ginsburg. |
And as people are responding, in retaliation, the GOP replaced them with Clarence Thomas and Amy Coney Barrett. |
It's so unfair. The majority of justices would have been appointed by Republican presidents who lost the popular vote. I hate the electoral college. We end up with tyranny of the minority. For all the screaming about how the liberals and media aren't fair to rural America, the fact is they are the minority and they are hurting the majority of us who live in cities. Roe v Wade and the ACA are approved of by over 70% of America -- but the 30% right wing extremists are going to inflict their racist, religious, misogynistic, homophobic dogma on the rest of us.
Win in a blue wave.
Win back the Senate.
Pack the courts.
Make DC and PR states.
Find a way to rescind the electoral college and institute popular vote.
Make universal healthcare a reality and enshrine it including access to birth control and abortion pills and privacy rights to prevent the government from interfering in private medical decisions.
Make automatic universal voter registration a reality and write law to prevent the individual state legislatures from depriving voters of their rights.
Basically, if the courts destroy the Affordable Care Act they are making it easier for Democrats to go full socialized medicine in response.
That's a start.
Oh yeah, she also hates gay people and gay marriage and routinely protects cops and corporations over individuals. What a peach. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Or as Elizabeth Warren summed it up:
Quote: | Elizabeth Warren @ewarren
This sleazy Supreme Court double-dealing is the last gasp of a corrupt Republican leadership, numb to its own hypocrisy. The last gasp of a billionaire-fueled party that's undemocratically over-represented and desperately clinging to power in order to impose its extremist agenda. |
That's my Senator. |
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DaMuleRules Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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ChefLinda wrote: | Or as Elizabeth Warren summed it up:
Quote: | Elizabeth Warren @ewarren
This sleazy Supreme Court double-dealing is the last gasp of a corrupt Republican leadership, numb to its own hypocrisy. The last gasp of a billionaire-fueled party that's undemocratically over-represented and desperately clinging to power in order to impose its extremist agenda. |
That's my Senator. |
Unfortunately it’s not a last gasp yet. Unless we successfully vote them all out and thwart Trump’s soft coup, it’s just an inhale for them. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
Jason Isbell
Man, do those lyrics resonate right now |
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trmiv Franchise Player
Joined: 19 Nov 2001 Posts: 17659 Location: Orlando
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | trmiv wrote: | Wilt wrote: | After giving up on Michigan, there is talk that Trump is giving up on Wisconsin as well.
Pennsylvania might be where the election is decided.
But there is a way for Trump to win Pennsylvania and still lose the election, providing Biden wins Arizona and both congressional districts in Maine or one congressional district in Nebraska. |
That 270-268 map is nightmare fuel. That’s the exact kind of map Trump would use to steal the election via the Supreme Court. |
Whatever the electoral map looks like, he's going to do that anyway. |
Of course he is, but there’s a big difference though if the map is 352 to 186 vs 270 to 268. With a super close election he’s challenging the results in one state or one of the districts in Maine or Nebraska vs him attempting to invalidate multiple states at once. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Posts: 24166 Location: Boston
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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DaMuleRules wrote: | ChefLinda wrote: | Or as Elizabeth Warren summed it up:
Quote: | Elizabeth Warren @ewarren
This sleazy Supreme Court double-dealing is the last gasp of a corrupt Republican leadership, numb to its own hypocrisy. The last gasp of a billionaire-fueled party that's undemocratically over-represented and desperately clinging to power in order to impose its extremist agenda. |
That's my Senator. |
Unfortunately it’s not a last gasp yet. Unless we successfully vote them all out and thwart Trump’s soft coup, it’s just an inhale for them. |
That was just snippet from a longer speech where she makes it clear Americans must overwhelmingly vote for Biden, vote out all Republicans and use every tool available to restore fairness in light of Trump and GOP corruption and perversion of Democracy and the courts.
Link to video |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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There are millions of working class and middle class Republicans in both blue and red states who are about to lose their healthcare plans and pre-existing condition coverage. It won't come until after the election. I wonder if they will feel betrayed? Who will they blame? I guess they'll figure out a way to blame it on Obama. Or Hillary. ::shakes head:: |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | Julie Gunnigle (former prosecutor running for Maricopa Country Attorney)
I was a student at the University of Notre Dame Law School while Amy Coney Barrett was a professor.
While she had a reputation for collegiality and excellence in the classroom, the biggest lesson she taught me was that a person could be kind and civil while embracing an ideology that regards some individuals worthy of fewer rights and less freedom.
Make no mistake about it: Judge Amy Coney Barrett is an extremist pick. Her record on reproductive rights, coverage for preexisting conditions, LGBTQ+ rights, and the dignity of work is abysmal.
In Amy Coney Barrett’s America, women will be prosecuted for abortions, Americans will be stripped of healthcare coverage, we cannot marry who we love, and unions will be gutted.
While I respect her record on teaching, she is unfit to fill the seat of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
With her nomination to the United States Supreme Court, the overturning of established precedent like Roe v. Wade is all but guaranteed.
That means the Maricopa County Attorney will have the discretion to prosecute people for their own private healthcare decisions.
Our government does not belong in these intimate spaces.
Our next Supreme Court Justice should be appointed after the voters have their say in free and fair elections in 38 days. |
https://twitter.com/JulieGunnigle/status/1309970518229970944 |
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NMLaker Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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Modernize the court. 13 circuits, 13 justices. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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However bad you think they are, they are always worse.
Quote: | Leslie Proll @LeslieProll
Did you know Amy Coney Barrett is sitting in a stolen judicial seat right now? In May 2017, Trump nominated Barrett to IN seat on Seventh Circuit, which covers Indiana, Illinois & Wisconsin. This is same seat to which President Obama nominated Myra Selby, a Black woman, in 2016.
But Republican Senators blocked Selby’s confirmation and saved the seat for Donald Trump. After Trump was elected Seventh Circuit lost its only Black judge to retirement. The Shelby appointment would have retained diversity on this court. 2/
Instead, Trump appointed four white individuals to Seventh Circuit, including Amy Barrett. The Seventh Circuit is now the only all-white federal appellate court in the country. 3/ |
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C M B Franchise Player
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:34 am Post subject: |
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ABC/Washington Post Poll - Between the economy and coronavirus pandemic, Biden keeps his advantage nationally: 54%-44%
Quote: | In a race defined by economic views and pandemic fears, and riven by wide gender and education gaps, Joe Biden retains a 10-point lead nationally against Donald Trump in a new ABC News/Washington Post poll, contracting to six points with third-party candidates included.
The results underscore Trump's precarious position as the first president in 81 years of modern polling never to achieve majority approval for his work in office. He's at 44% approval among all Americans, ranging from 52% for handling the economy to 40% on the coronavirus outbreak. Fifty-eight percent disapprove of his performance on the pandemic, a key to Biden's support. |
Quote: | 2016 comparisons
Comparisons to 2016, based on ABC News exit poll results, are telling. Among the most striking differences:
Clinton won political moderates by 12 points. Biden leads among them by 47 points, 72%-25%.
Clinton won independent women by four points. As noted, Biden leads among them by a remarkable 57 points.
Trump won whites by 20 points in 2016; he's up six points among whites now. One reason: White women have switched from plus-9 points for Trump in 2016 to plus-15 points for Biden now, 57%-42%. That includes a vast shift among college-educated white women, from up 7 points for Clinton to up 41 points for Biden now.
Clinton won college-educated voters overall by 10 points; as noted, Biden now leads in this group by 30 points. In addition to college-educated white women, the change is sharp among people with postgraduate degrees, from up 21 points for Clinton four years ago to up 47 points for Biden now.
Non-evangelical white Protestants, as mentioned, support Biden by a 17-point margin; that compares to essentially an even split in 2016, 48%-45%, Trump-Clinton. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Seung Min Kim @seungminkim
Biden will deliver a speech today at 12:15 p.m. on the Supreme Court, per campaign. |
Assuming that's EST |
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Wilt LG Contributor
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:17 am Post subject: |
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NYT Siena poll just came out:
Biden 49
Trump 41
538 average:
September 27, 2016:
Clinton 42.5%
Trump 41.0%
Johnson 7.0%
September 27, 2020:
Biden 50.4%
Trump 43.1% _________________ ¡Hala Madrid! |
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:36 am Post subject: |
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ELELECTION COUNTDOWN
GET OUT AND VOTE!!! _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:44 am Post subject: |
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Wilt wrote: | NYT Siena poll just came out:
Biden 49 (+8 pts)
Trump 41
538 average:
September 27, 2016:
Clinton 42.5%
Trump 41.0%
Johnson 7.0%
September 27, 2020:
Biden 50.4% (+7.3 pts)
Trump 43.1% |
For reference:
Quote: | FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver crunched the numbers and determined Biden's chances of winning the electoral college vote based on the size of his popular-vote victory.
0-1 points: just 6%!
1-2 points: 22%
2-3 points: 46%
3-4 points: 74%
4-5 points: 89%
5-6 points: 98%
6-7 points: 99% |
I wonder if 8 pts is 100%? |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:49 am Post subject: |
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Trump is blathering on about Biden taking drugs in order to do well at the debates and he's demanding that both of them do drug tests before or after the debate.
First of all, he's (bleep) crazy.
Second of all, he knows it won't happen so he's just projecting and throwing (bleep) at the wall hoping something sticks.
Third, is he looking for a way out of the debate?
Four, is he trying to distract from 200,000+ dead Americans?
Five, all of the above. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 7:58 am Post subject: |
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Young women are rushing to register to vote following Justice Ginsburg's death (Sept. 24, 2020)
Quote: | More than 62% of new voters who registered over the weekend were female.
As the nation mourned Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s death last Friday, a surge of women and young people registered to vote over the weekend, according to voting groups.
More than 62% of voters who registered were female, according to a spokesman for the nonpartisan platform Vote.org.
By age group, young adults between 25 to 34 made up the largest bloc of new registrations with close to 31%, the nonprofit voting group said. Meanwhile, nearly 25% of the voter registrations came from the 18-to-24 age group.
"The number of young people and women registering and making a plan to vote through Vote.org is a positive sign for increased turnout this fall. In 2016, 100 million Americans sat out the election, and too many of them were young people. Their participation matters," said Andrea Hailey, the CEO of Vote.org. |
Quote: | Vote.org processed more than 40,000 new voter registrations on Saturday and Sunday, a 68% increase from the previous weekend. The nonprofit’s website also saw over 35,000 mail ballot requests over the weekend, a 42% increase from the prior week.
The nonprofit had more than 139,000 registration verifications, an 118% increase from the weekend before. |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:33 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | John Harwood @JohnJHarwood
new CBS News Senate polls:
NC
Cunningham (D challenger) 48%
Tillis (R incumbent) 38%
SC
Graham (R incumbent) 45%
Harrison (D challenger) 44% |
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ChefLinda Moderator
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Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 8:42 am Post subject: |
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See, they are all the same in the end. Power hungry hypocrites:
Quote: | Manu Raju @mkraju
Murkowski: “For weeks I have stated that I do not support taking up a potential Supreme Court vacancy this close to an election. But today the President exercised his constitutional authority..I welcome the opportunity to meet with the Supreme Court nominee, just as I did in” ‘16 |
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