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Baron Von Humongous
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Start planning to vote in person if you live in a swing state.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Start planning to vote in person if you live in a swing state. |
And don't worry about the gun toting neanderthals "standing guard" the polls. They are all bark and no bite.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Start planning to vote in person if you live in a swing state. |
Or early in-person voting, or drop box for absentee ballot if available. Check with your local precinct. |
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| ribeye wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | Impeachable offense number . . . what . . . 2,967ish?
Trump Declares USPS Can’t Handle Mail-In Voting Because He’s Blocking Funding
President Donald Trump proclaimed Wednesday that the U.S. Postal Service doesn’t have the capacity to handle an unprecedented increase in mail-in ballots because it lacks funds that his administration is blocking, remarks that were immediately viewed as an open admission of election sabotage by a president who has previously called USPS “a joke.”
During his daily Covid-19 briefing Wednesday evening, Trump dismissed Democratic congressional leaders’ demands for $3.5 billion in election assistance for states and $25 billion for USPS as “ridiculous” and vowed to continue blocking the funds. While USPS leadership insists it has “ample capacity” to meet election needs, postal workers have warned that without emergency funding, the agency could struggle to deliver mail-in ballots on time in November.
“Therefore, they don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting. So therefore, they can’t do it,” said the president, who repeated his false claim that mail-in voting is highly susceptible to fraud. “How are they going to do it if they don’t have the money to do it?” |
Trump continues to expose the flaws in our system of government that our framers could never dream would come to be. How do you remedy such a situation that involves ballots, but the administration of distributing and the policies for counting many of the ballots, (as well as the policing of such actions by the Barr's Justice Department) are controlled by one person whose only desire is to win at all costs? Democrats writing letters to the Postmaster General certainly won't change anything. |
The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. Checks and balances break down when one party no longer believes in democracy and prefers authoritarian rule.
The next Congress can expand voting rights and try to correct current abuses. But as we've come to learn, our system is largely based on the honor system. And when one party abandons honor, the entire system breaks down. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Start planning to vote in person if you live in a swing state. |
Or early in-person voting, or drop box for absentee ballot if available. Check with your local precinct. |
Great points.
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I read somewhere that the Ohio Secretary of State (a Republican, of course) plans to have one ballot drop box per county. So Cleveland would have one, as would some county with 12 people.
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| Wilt wrote: | | I read somewhere that the Ohio Secretary of State (a Republican, of course) plans to have one ballot drop box per county. So Cleveland would have one, as would some county with 12 people. |
We have to write this kind of stuff into the next expanded voting rights act. Specify x-number of polling locations (drop boxes) per x-number of population. |
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| I mailed in for the primary we just had but I will be dropping my ballot off at my polling station on the first day I can for the general. |
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If we on LG are wise to Trump trying to stop vote by mail I'm sure Dems do. They have to come up with something to counter Trump trying to stack the deck.
SIDE NOTE: I love how Trump played it cool when secret service got him out of the presser because of a threat. I bet he had to change his diaper when he left. 
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| Quote: | Worried About Mail Delays? Here are Four Ways to Safely Cast Your Ballot Without USPS
By Marc Elias on August 6, 2020
Events of the past few weeks have left many voters asking about alternatives to the US Postal Service to ensure their vote counts this November. “Cost-saving” changes made to the USPS by Trump donor-turned-Postmaster General, Louis Dejoy, led to days-long mail delays across the country. Meanwhile, the coronavirus pandemic shows no sign of slowing before November, leading millions of Americans to register to vote by mail to avoid voting in-person and risking their health.
The combination of these unprecedented challenges has led to widespread fear over what David Wasserman called “a perfect catastrophe of administrative overload, postal delays and voter error that could lead to millions of absentee ballots not counting.”
Voters concerned about the current crisis facing the USPS and what it could mean for their ballot arriving by Election Day have several options:
1. Vote early in person. Early voting allows voters to vote in person without waiting in crowded or long lines. Forty-one states have some form of early voting in place and may start as early as 45 days before Election Day. Many states also have weekend early voting options. Make sure to check with your local election office to see if they extended early voting due to the pandemic.
2. Use a ballot drop box. Many states and counties provide ballot drop boxes as a secure and convenient option for voters to return their sealed and signed mail ballot. Drop boxes skip the mail process entirely, allowing voters to drop off their mail ballots and have them be taken directly to county offices. Boxes are placed in many convenient locations such as outside community centers, near public transit routes or on college campuses. Check with your local election office to see if there are ballot drop boxes in your community.
3. Drop off your ballot at an election office or polling location. Almost all states permit voters to return a delivered ballot in person at their local election office, but not everyone lives close to their election office. That is why many states allow voters to drop off their signed and sealed ballots at any in-person voting location in the county. Check with your local election office to see if you can drop off your ballot at a polling location closer to your home.
4. Organize community ballot collection. Many states allow designated organizations, election officials or family members to collect a voter’s signed and sealed ballot and submit the ballot on behalf of the voter. This option is vital for high-risk voters who are unable to leave their home to cast a ballot. Check who can collect your ballot in your state.
We can’t let the current crisis facing USPS lock millions of Americans out of our voting process. With the current absentee ballot rejection rate reaching as high as 8-10%, how we cast our ballots this year matters. To beat Donald Trump and the Republicans in November, especially in battleground states, we must make a plan to vote and look to other available methods of voting—like the ones listed above—to ensure every ballot counts.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | Impeachable offense number . . . what . . . 2,967ish?
Trump Declares USPS Can’t Handle Mail-In Voting Because He’s Blocking Funding
President Donald Trump proclaimed Wednesday that the U.S. Postal Service doesn’t have the capacity to handle an unprecedented increase in mail-in ballots because it lacks funds that his administration is blocking, remarks that were immediately viewed as an open admission of election sabotage by a president who has previously called USPS “a joke.”
During his daily Covid-19 briefing Wednesday evening, Trump dismissed Democratic congressional leaders’ demands for $3.5 billion in election assistance for states and $25 billion for USPS as “ridiculous” and vowed to continue blocking the funds. While USPS leadership insists it has “ample capacity” to meet election needs, postal workers have warned that without emergency funding, the agency could struggle to deliver mail-in ballots on time in November.
“Therefore, they don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting. So therefore, they can’t do it,” said the president, who repeated his false claim that mail-in voting is highly susceptible to fraud. “How are they going to do it if they don’t have the money to do it?” |
Trump continues to expose the flaws in our system of government that our framers could never dream would come to be. How do you remedy such a situation that involves ballots, but the administration of distributing and the policies for counting many of the ballots, (as well as the policing of such actions by the Barr's Justice Department) are controlled by one person whose only desire is to win at all costs? Democrats writing letters to the Postmaster General certainly won't change anything. |
The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. Checks and balances break down when one party no longer believes in democracy and prefers authoritarian rule.
The next Congress can expand voting rights and try to correct current abuses. But as we've come to learn, our system is largely based on the honor system. And when one party abandons honor, the entire system breaks down. |
Exactly. The framers never envisioned a government takeover by people who do everything they can to break the system to show it doesn't work. |
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After Trump tweeted AOC was a poor student ...
Let's Make a Deal, Mr. President
You release your college transcript, I’ll release mine, and we’ll see who was the better student.
Loser has to fund the Post Office.
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The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. |
Oh but they did. They were vehemently opposed to political parties, or factions, for, at least in part, that very reason.
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| ribeye wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: |
The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. |
Oh but they did. They were vehemently opposed to political parties, or factions, for, at least in part, that very reason. |
Not like this. This is people blatantly trying to break the system from the inside simply to prove it could be broken. It's undeniable and it lacks anything that would pass for sanity, much less logic. |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: |
The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. |
Oh but they did. They were vehemently opposed to political parties, or factions, for, at least in part, that very reason. |
Not like this. This is people blatantly trying to break the system from the inside simply to prove it could be broken. It's undeniable and it lacks anything that would pass for sanity, much less logic. |
Of course the framers could not imagine this . . . isn't that what I effectively stated originally? But they could see the problems with political parties. They were dead set against political parties, even though many realized their inevitability. They understood how factions worked in England, including the corruption, the extreme partisanship, the vicious fights for power, and all the problems that follow, and did not want this country to follow suit. They did not know what those problems were, exactly, but they knew that with factions, “[t]he common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it,” and that Washington "was afraid of what he called ‘disunion.’ That if the parties flourished, and they kept fighting each other, that the Union would break up.”
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The GOP motto: always shoot the hostage
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| is U.S. the only country in the world that the ideologies of the two main political parties and their respective supporters are so far apart? i don't see any middle ground there whatsoever, it's either or, fire and water. |
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| ribeye wrote: | After Trump tweeted AOC was a poor student ...
Let's Make a Deal, Mr. President
You release your college transcript, I’ll release mine, and we’ll see who was the better student.
Loser has to fund the Post Office. |
Trump puts his foot in his mouth more than I do and that's saying something. 
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| Most people who make it a point to delineate who they are, well, they're probably not that way, i.e. Trump and his great business acumen and/or intellect. |
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | Impeachable offense number . . . what . . . 2,967ish?
Trump Declares USPS Can’t Handle Mail-In Voting Because He’s Blocking Funding
President Donald Trump proclaimed Wednesday that the U.S. Postal Service doesn’t have the capacity to handle an unprecedented increase in mail-in ballots because it lacks funds that his administration is blocking, remarks that were immediately viewed as an open admission of election sabotage by a president who has previously called USPS “a joke.”
During his daily Covid-19 briefing Wednesday evening, Trump dismissed Democratic congressional leaders’ demands for $3.5 billion in election assistance for states and $25 billion for USPS as “ridiculous” and vowed to continue blocking the funds. While USPS leadership insists it has “ample capacity” to meet election needs, postal workers have warned that without emergency funding, the agency could struggle to deliver mail-in ballots on time in November.
“Therefore, they don’t have the money to do the universal mail-in voting. So therefore, they can’t do it,” said the president, who repeated his false claim that mail-in voting is highly susceptible to fraud. “How are they going to do it if they don’t have the money to do it?” |
Trump continues to expose the flaws in our system of government that our framers could never dream would come to be. How do you remedy such a situation that involves ballots, but the administration of distributing and the policies for counting many of the ballots, (as well as the policing of such actions by the Barr's Justice Department) are controlled by one person whose only desire is to win at all costs? Democrats writing letters to the Postmaster General certainly won't change anything. |
The framers foresaw one corrupt individual, they did not foresee an entire party becoming completely corrupt and complicit to protect the corrupt individual. Checks and balances break down when one party no longer believes in democracy and prefers authoritarian rule.
The next Congress can expand voting rights and try to correct current abuses. But as we've come to learn, our system is largely based on the honor system. And when one party abandons honor, the entire system breaks down. |
Exactly. The framers never envisioned a government takeover by people who do everything they can to break the system to show it doesn't work. |
The (fatal?) flaw in the rule of law is that it is always only as good as those tasked with enforcing it. It takes a surprisingly small amount of properly placed people (President, AG, DHS, Supreme Court, for example) to subvert the rule of law, because it is not a physical thing that can defend itself.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Start planning to vote in person if you live in a swing state. |
And don't worry about the gun toting neanderthals "standing guard" the polls. They are all bark and no bight. |
But a whole lot of blight for sure. |
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Wish AOC would have real time to talk at the DNC convention, as well as Sanders.
Why exactly are we shunning those two? |
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| tlim wrote: | Wish AOC would have real time to talk at the DNC convention, as well as Sanders.
Why exactly are we shunning those two? |
Hey, but we get to hear Chuck Schumer live. . . . (Whoppee!)
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The GOP motto: always shoot the hostage |
Speaking of hostages: another federal government shutdown is looming on October 1st.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | The GOP motto: always shoot the hostage |
Speaking of hostages: another federal government shutdown is looming on October 1st. |
Not looming, happening. Of course, that will be right about the time the HEROES act will be passed as is and retroactive. Millions will already be homeless and thousands more will be dead by then.
And by the way, that's my optimistic view. |
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