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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:26 pm    Post subject:

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Marist College poll on the north Carolina senate race:

Democrat Cal Cunningham 50%

Sen. Thom Tillis 41%
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:06 pm    Post subject:

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He also leads by 9 in the latest YouGov poll.

North Carolina seems like the most likely tipping point seat for the Dems to take the Senate. Montana is also a good candidate, but Bullock hasn't had big leads there and there aren't many polls there.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:44 pm    Post subject:

Waiting for Trump to take credit for SpaceX.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:55 pm    Post subject:

Anthony Tata. Remember the name. He'll try to hijack the military on Trump's behalf after the election.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:51 pm    Post subject:

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Anthony Tata. Remember the name. He'll try to hijack the military on Trump's behalf after the election.


How dare you besmirch the good name of a man who had no chance of being confirmed by the Senate but was appointed to the same position anyway!
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 8:50 am    Post subject:

Didn't want to start a thread. I think this question has political implications. Why does Trump want to ban TikTok? Microsoft wanted to buy the app. Has anyone done TikTok?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:12 am    Post subject:

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Didn't want to start a thread. I think this question has political implications. Why does Trump want to ban TikTok? Microsoft wanted to buy the app. Has anyone done TikTok?


A good reason to ban it is the data mining the app does on any device where it is installed, which is why it has been banned in other countries.

His reason is that people use it to be mean to him.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:02 am    Post subject:

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Didn't want to start a thread. I think this question has political implications. Why does Trump want to ban TikTok? Microsoft wanted to buy the app. Has anyone done TikTok?


A good reason to ban it is the data mining the app does on any device where it is installed, which is why it has been banned in other countries.

His reason is that people use it to be mean to him.


That could be the reason. I've seen some TikTok. He could be clowned. Here are a few already there. LINK LINK LINK
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:29 am    Post subject:

Happy Monday!

NYT: D.A. Is Investigating Trump and His Company Over Fraud, Filing Suggests

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The Manhattan district attorney’s office suggested on Monday that it has been investigating President Trump and his company for possible bank and insurance fraud, a significantly broader inquiry than the prosecutors have acknowledged in the past.

The office of the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., made the disclosure in a new federal court filing arguing Mr. Trump’s accountants should have to comply with its subpoena seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns. Mr. Trump has asked a judge to declare the subpoena invalid.

The prosecutors did not directly identify the focus of their inquiry but said that “undisputed” news reports last year about Mr. Trump’s business practices make it clear that the office had a legal basis for the subpoena.

The reports, including investigations into the president’s wealth and an article on the congressional testimony of his former lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, said that the president may have illegally inflated his net worth and the value of his properties to lenders and insurers. Lawyers for Mr. Trump have said he did nothing wrong.

The clash over the subpoena comes less than a month after the Supreme Court, in a major ruling on the limits of presidential power, cleared the way for Mr. Vance’s prosecutors to seek Mr. Trump’s financial records.


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If Mr. Vance succeeds in eventually obtaining Mr. Trump’s records, they are unlikely to become public anytime soon because they will be shielded by grand jury secrecy rules. The records might only emerge later if criminal charges are brought and the records are introduced in a trial.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:34 am    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Hector the Pup wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Didn't want to start a thread. I think this question has political implications. Why does Trump want to ban TikTok? Microsoft wanted to buy the app. Has anyone done TikTok?


A good reason to ban it is the data mining the app does on any device where it is installed, which is why it has been banned in other countries.

His reason is that people use it to be mean to him.


That could be the reason. I've seen some TikTok. He could be clowned. Here are a few already there. LINK LINK LINK


Tik Tok is popular with young people, who among other things messed with Trump's campaign rally free tickets and possibly depressed attendance at his rally in Oklahoma. And then there is Sarah Cooper who uses Tik Tok (with links to her twitter account) to do hilarious lip sync videos mocking Trump using his own words.

And when young people got wind of Trump trying to "take away" their platform, they started asking their parents how to register to vote.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:58 am    Post subject:

This is disgraceful, but doubly so because Trump tries to accuse Biden of pro-China bias and the GOP Senate was content to dole out billions to big companies, both foreign and domestic, but can't bring themselves to extend unemployment benefits to regular Americans teetering on the edge of foreclosures, bankruptcies, evictions, losing their insurance and ability to feed their families. Capital D disgraceful.

NYT: U.S. Small Business Bailout Money Flowed to Chinese-Owned Companies

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Millions of dollars of American taxpayer money have flowed to China from the $660 billion Paycheck Protection Program that was created in March to be a lifeline for struggling small businesses in the United States. But because the economic relief legislation allowed American subsidiaries of foreign firms to receive the loans, a substantial chunk of the money went to America’s biggest economic rival, a new analysis shows.

According to a review of publicly available loan data by the strategy consulting firm Horizon Advisory, $192 million to $419 million has gone to more than 125 companies that Chinese entities own or invest in. Many of the loans were quite sizable; at least 32 Chinese companies received loans worth more than $1 million, with those totaling as much as $180 million.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:39 pm    Post subject:

Trump finally tweeted about Rasmussen after they inflated his approval all the way to 51%. That's what it's all about for Rasmussen.

Their internals: 50% approval among women, 48% among blacks.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:59 pm    Post subject:

48% approval among blacks? Did they poll 4 people, two of whom were Diamond & Silk? That's just laughable.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:08 pm    Post subject:

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48% approval among blacks? Did they poll 4 people, two of whom were Diamond & Silk? That's just laughable.

How many students does Rasmussen College have enrolled? I'd be leery to hire anyone who schooled there.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:17 pm    Post subject:

Mother Jones: The Republican Party Is Racist and Soulless. Just Ask This Veteran GOP Strategist.

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Stuart Stevens says he now realizes the hatred and bigotry of Trumpism were always at the heart of the GOP. - DAVID CORN, SEPTEMBER/OCTOBER 2020 ISSUE


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When Donald Trump decided to back-burner the coronavirus crisis and reboot his reelection campaign with superspreader events in June, he headed to an arena in Tulsa, Oklahoma, to present his case for four more years. In front of an audience of maskless fans standing side by side, Trump performed his usual routine.


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What was mostly missing from Trump’s speech: ideas.


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Trump had little to say about economic policy, national security, health care, education, housing, the environment, and other subjects. Moreover, he offered no agenda for a second term other than vague promises of making everything swell. Days later, during a friendly Fox News “town hall,” Sean Hannity asked Trump to spell out his plans for a second term. He replied by rambling on about his inauguration and attacking John Bolton.


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But in the Oklahoma crowd were many unmasked Republican senators and House members, who clapped along and looked delighted to be props for The Trump Show. Once upon a time, Republican legislators and party leaders claimed they cared deeply about certain foundational issues—the deficit, family values, free trade, hawkish foreign policy. Now they were cheering a twice-divorced adulterer who had run up the federal debt, sloppily imposed tariffs, and embraced the anti-American autocrats leading Russia and North Korea—a man devoid of serious thought and guiding policy principles, a self-fixated candidate who presented no intellectual framework for his presidency. Had the GOP become the party of no ideas?


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I thought I would check in with veteran Republicans who once were attracted to the party for its conservative ideals but who have become Trump critics. First on my list was Stuart Stevens, the chief strategist for Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential bid.


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Asked if the Republican Party in the Trump years has become an outfit free of governing ideas, Stevens went even further: “It was all a lie.” He noted that this was word-for-word the title of his forthcoming book, It Was All a Lie: How the Republican Party Became Donald Trump. The modern GOP, he said, never truly cared about the ideas it claimed to care about.

This was a stunning indictment coming from a longtime political consul­tant who had toiled on five Republican presidential campaigns and numerous Senate and gubernatorial races. “The Republican Party has been a cartel,” Stevens said excitedly. “And no one asks a cartel, ‘What’s your ideological purpose?’ You don’t ask OPEC, ‘What’s your ideology?’ You don’t ask a drug gang, ‘What’s your program?’ The Republicans exist for the pursuit of power for no purpose.”


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“Fair trade, balanced budgets, character, family values, standing up to foreign adversaries like Russia—we’re all against that now. You have to ask, ‘Does someone abandon deeply held beliefs in three or four years?’ No. It means you didn’t ever hold them.” He added: “I feel like a guy who was working for Bernie Madoff.”


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Stevens now argues that Trump’s rise was not a fluke that the party can sidestep or survive. “This is the complete moral collapse of a governing party of a major superpower,” he remarked. He wonders how he could have been blind to the GOP’s racism and turpitude for so long. “It is hard to see this when you’re in the middle of it,” he said. “The only analogy I can find is the collapse of the Communist Party in the Soviet Union, when the difference between reality and what is believed became so disjointed. I should’ve seen this. I did see this, but I wanted to believe the crazies were a minority.


Many of us have been saying this stuff for the last several years but it's nice to have confirmation from the Republican point of view.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:33 pm    Post subject:

Which, once again, delegitimizes the whole "economic anxiety" argument about closed factories and lost job that we discussed here a few weeks ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:16 pm    Post subject:

Republican Voters Against Trump - simple but effective ad:

https://twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1290373568635842561
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:35 pm    Post subject:

I have a sneaking suspicion on where Trump is heading on his eviction moratorium. If you halt evictions, the landlords hardest hit will be the de facto slumlords who rent to the lower middle class, as that demographic will likely get hit hard by layoffs and not have enough liquid assets to pay rent. This will lead to the federal government sending relief funds to slum lords.

Federal relief will certainly save slum lords, particularly ones who are leveraged to their teeth with commercial mortgages and debt. You don't suppose there's a member of Trump's family and cabinet who is in that position, do you?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 5:55 pm    Post subject:

Ed Yong was just on the Rachel (Nicole Wallace subbing) Maddow Show, speaking about his article in The Atlantic:

How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.


I have not read the article yet but the title provides a real clue as to the contents. He spoke of how the institutions of our county, especially health care, worked against people of color, to make things worse for them. Another area that was mentioned was why the travel restriction against China actually made the pandemic worse.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 9:40 pm    Post subject:

ribeye wrote:
Ed Yong was just on the Rachel (Nicole Wallace subbing) Maddow Show, speaking about his article in The Atlantic:

How the Pandemic Defeated America

A virus has brought the world’s most powerful country to its knees.


No one should be shocked that a liar who has made almost 20,000 false or misleading claims during his presidency would lie about whether the U.S. had the pandemic under control; that a racist who gave birth to birtherism would do little to stop a virus that was disproportionately killing Black people; that a xenophobe who presided over the creation of new immigrant-detention centers would order meatpacking plants with a substantial immigrant workforce to remain open...

MAGA = Make Americans Gullible A$$h@le$
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2020 11:38 pm    Post subject:

The full Axios interview aired tonight.

It's as batsh*t crazy as you expect.

https://youtu.be/zaaTZkqsaxY
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:05 am    Post subject:

Trump's latest Coronavirus plan:

Jonathan Swan: "A thousand people are dying a day."

Trump: "People are dying. It is what it is."


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 9:26 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
Trump's latest Coronavirus plan:

"People are dying. It is what it is."

¯\_(ツ)_/¯


He's a piece of (bleep). I hope they drag his ass out of the White House and straight to prison.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:01 am    Post subject:

On the passing of John Lewis:

Jonathan Swan: "How do you think history will remember John Lewis?"

Trump: "I don't know...I don't know John Lewis. He chose not to come to my inauguration."
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:03 am    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
On the passing of John Lewis:

Jonathan Swan: "How do you think history will remember John Lewis?"

Trump: "I don't know...I don't know John Lewis. He chose not to come to my inauguration."


He's done more for black people than John Lewis has, didn't you know that?!?!
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