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Baron Von Humongous
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| Quote: | Akela Lacy
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Tired of being made to deal with my coworker
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continuing to push narratives about black on black crime after repeatedly being asked not to. This isn’t about me and him it’s about institutional racism and using free speech to couch anti-blackness. I am so (bleep) tired |
https://twitter.com/akela_lacy/status/1268393571121496066
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| SweetP wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | SweetP wrote: | General Mattis (finally!) unloads on Trump, after staying quiet since his resignation as Sec of Def in Dec 2018. From an article in The Atlantic.
| Quote: | | “When I joined the military, some 50 years ago,” he writes, “I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens—much less to provide a bizarre photo op for the elected commander-in-chief, with military leadership standing alongside.” |
| Quote: | | “We must reject any thinking of our cities as a ‘battlespace’ that our uniformed military is called upon to ‘dominate.’ At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors. Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict—a false conflict—between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part. Keeping public order rests with civilian state and local leaders who best understand their communities and are answerable to them. |
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Nobody dislikes Trump more than me.
Mattis is too little and too late. Should've spoken up when he was in the White House. Instead he enabled Trump to become the President he is today.
Whistleblowers have come out against Trump. Mattis wasn't one of them. And now he just looks like someone speaking up because he has nothing to lose in his professional career. |
I agree, I wish he had done it much earlier and said much more but I am guessing the use of the military in such a way really galls him. He's military, his wheelhouse. I'm not excusing it but I can see why he might speak out now. And it provides some extra cover for the current SOD (Esper) to find his spine and speak up. |
Agreed. Too many Repubs wait until they're personally offended by Trump because he demeans/attacks something they're personally dear to, involved with, or affected by. Like he didn't know all this sh about Trump before he even took the job.
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Mattis is retired. Now he can say what he wants about the CIC and not fear repercussions.
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I'm sure this brought out the best of Donald.
Tiffany Trump joins #BlackoutTuesday campaign on Instagram
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| Quote: | President Donald Trump’s youngest daughter captioned her post on Tuesday with a quote from the author and activist, Helen Keller: “Alone we can achieve so little; together we can achieve so much.”
She also shared the #blackoutTuesday and #justiceforgeorgefloyd hashtags. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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Black Lives Matter
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Black folks always fare worst under capitalist, socialist, and communist regimes. Prove me wrong.
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Trump's building a wall around the White House perimeter guarded by combination of US soldiers, national guard, prison riot police, secret service and DC park police.
Does this sound like a brave man? A sane man?
Or does this sound like a psychotic fascist dictator who doesn't intend to leave office?
This had better be a wave election that is not even close. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | Trump's building a wall around the White House perimeter guarded by combination of US soldiers, national guard, prison riot police, secret service and DC park police.
Does this sound like a brave man? A sane man?
Or does this sound like a psychotic fascist dictator who doesn't intend to leave office?
This had better be a wave election that is not even close. |
Brings to mind the number 25. LINK
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| Omar Little wrote: | | deleted |
I linked to that picture earlier before I found out it was photoshopped. But Trump uses a lot of Hitler's dictatorial tools so the comparison in general stands as far as I'm concerned. |
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Gestapo is on live
DOJ Bigwigs giving info speech etc
https://www.justice.gov/live
Started 930am PT
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Attorney General William P. Barr, FBI Director Christopher Wray, U.S. Marshals Director Donald W. Washington, BOP Director Michael Carvajal, ATF Acting Director Regina Lombardo, and DEA Acting Administrator Timothy Shea will hold a virtual press conference at the Department of Justice
Start time 12:30pm ET
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| ChefLinda wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | deleted |
I linked to that picture earlier before I found out it was photoshopped. But Trump uses a lot of Hitler's dictatorial tools so the comparison in general stands as far as I'm concerned. |
Yep.
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From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
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| ribeye wrote: | From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
This is something I broached in the George Floyd thread. I really don't expect any answers.
Drew Brees changed his position after being called out by media and some of his teammates.
I also queried if the Floyd happening would forge a path for Colin to return to the league. I hope he will at least get some tryouts.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | Trump's building a wall around the White House perimeter guarded by combination of US soldiers, national guard, prison riot police, secret service and DC park police.
Does this sound like a brave man? A sane man?
Or does this sound like a psychotic fascist dictator who doesn't intend to leave office?
This had better be a wave election that is not even close. |
He's scared, he's a classic coward, all bluster and no courage. And I hope he goes down in a historic loss come the election, show the world that most of us to do not support this nut job wanna be dictator.
I kind of like it tho' that he is surrounded by metal fences and prison guards. Reports he's going to golf at Bedminster this weekend, hope the streets are lined with people holding F Trump signs and Bunker B*tch banners.
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| ribeye wrote: | From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
Two powerful pics
Kapernick sitting behind Rosa Parks on the Bus
| Quote: | | "It wasn't about the bus then and it's not about the flag now" |
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/a1/68/6c/a1686c955eb99266ed4fc98aa4aafa23.jpg
Split screens
Left Chauvins Knee
Right Kapernicks
Over each is
| Quote: | | This... ..is Why... |
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| Quote: | | "It wasn't about the bus then and it's not about the flag now" |
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A great post, but what a perfect quote--as is the 2nd linked image--if only someone (say a mod) could give it life. |
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| ribeye wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
| Quote: | | "It wasn't about the bus then and it's not about the flag now" |
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A great post, but what a perfect quote--as is the 2nd linked image--if only someone (say a mod) could give it life. |
Its quite scary in many ways |
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| jodeke wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
This is something I broached in the George Floyd thread. I really don't expect any answers.
Drew Brees changed his position after being called out by media and some of his teammates.
I also queried if the Floyd happening would forge a path for Colin to return to the league. I hope he will at least get some tryouts. |
I think that the recent botched workout was his last. As an NFL player he isn’t good enough. And Brees’ comments showed how poorly Kap got his message out. People thought that it was about the flag, then about the military. The action was fine but the message wasn’t conveyed effectively.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
This is something I broached in the George Floyd thread. I really don't expect any answers.
Drew Brees changed his position after being called out by media and some of his teammates.
I also queried if the Floyd happening would forge a path for Colin to return to the league. I hope he will at least get some tryouts. |
I think that the recent botched workout was his last. As an NFL player he isn’t good enough. And Brees’ comments showed how poorly Kap got his message out. People thought that it was about the flag, then about the military. The action was fine but the message wasn’t conveyed effectively. |
It was conveyed fine to those who were willing to hear it.
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Yes, let's blame a black guy for a white guy's privilege of living comfortably for 40 years on this earth not understanding the history of his own country and the plight of tens of millions of Americans.
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| ribeye wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: |
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A great post, but what a perfect quote--as is the 2nd linked image--if only someone (say a mod) could give it life. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | From Sept 2016
| Quote: | | In one poll, which was conducted by Reuters, 72 percent of Americans said that they thought Kaepernick's behavior was unpatriotic. Another 61 percent said that they do not "support the stance Colin Kaepernick is taking and his decision not to stand during the national anthem." |
Now, just how much has this changed? A lot I suspect.
He was most certainly (and very unfairly) ostracized and punished when he first took a knee. Being correct, and ahead of your time, is often very painful.
When the dust clears years from now, most will have forgotten who replaced him, and most who played QB during his era. Colin Kaepernick, on the other hand, will be remembered years from now, and I suspect, when he dies, there will be a tremendous outpouring of love and support. |
This is something I broached in the George Floyd thread. I really don't expect any answers.
Drew Brees changed his position after being called out by media and some of his teammates.
I also queried if the Floyd happening would forge a path for Colin to return to the league. I hope he will at least get some tryouts. |
I think that the recent botched workout was his last. As an NFL player he isn’t good enough. And Brees’ comments showed how poorly Kap got his message out. People thought that it was about the flag, then about the military. The action was fine but the message wasn’t conveyed effectively. |
It was conveyed fine to those who were willing to hear it. |
| Wilt wrote: | Yes, let's blame a black guy for a white guy's privilege of living comfortably for 40 years on this earth not understanding the history of his own country and the plight of tens of millions of Americans.
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Yeah, you can't blame someone preaching the truth for the fact that ignorant people refuse to acknowledge it.
Kaepernick's message was clearly delivered. Some racist/false patriots intentionally misrepresented it.
That has nothing to with Kaepernick.
If the Saints were smart, they'd sign Kaep, not for his skills on the field, but for his abilities to send a message in a teachable moment.
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What most people won't hear is the rest of the statement where he says that two of his grandfathers fought in WWII to make the world a better place and therefore he won't tolerate any disrespect to the flag. Which, again, shows an incomplete understanding of just basic history of this country. Many black people fought and died so that the French people would be free from Nazi occupation, and then returned to this country where they couldn't enjoy the same rights they just gave to French people. In Drew Brees' understanding of history, that second part about black people coming to their own country and being regarded as second class citizens just doesn't enter into the equation. Just another instance of white privilege. He can live a comfortable live for 40 years not being interested in what the flag means to black people and other historically oppressed minorities, even though most of his teammates are black. It doesn't take much to read a book. Heck, you can read a few wikipedia articles and that would be enough to know this stuff. Or he can just talk to his teammates. But he probably has thousands of football plays memorized in his head, but doesn't know (bleep) about the history of his own country. In this case, I'm assuming it's just ignorance and not something worse.
Or we can just blame Kapernick, I guess, for not being a great messenger.
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