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OH yeah, for those (adkindo?) (ringfinger?) who so strongly believe that CNN is a liberal leaning network, do explain CNN's use of right wing operatives while acting like these are just run of the mill Republicans.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | I'll ask again:
So, noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism? |
No.
It’s a push and pull dynamic. It’s not a cliff.
Think of it like a stock price. Stock prices that rise or fall do not typically occur in cliff form. It is lots of change in one direction, accompanied by a few changes in the other with a general trendline in one direction.
Focus on the trendline, not the little dips. |
I'll skip the gobblety gook (though I am impressed that you think of trendlines rather than a stationary point in time), why is this a push and pull dynamic and racism is not? |
Progress in racial attitudes is also push pull. That’s what I’m saying.
It’s not a straight line upwards. It goes up a bunch and comes down a little (backlash). Then it goes up a bunch and comes down a little. But you’re ahead of where you were. |
So why yes to one (racism ) and no to the other (progressivism)?
And I have not moved a half a hair from where I was.
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| Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Trump is the logical progression of 21st Century American conservatism.
He's 1980s Reagan without the window dressing. It's been a long time since Dems portrayed Republicans further right then they really are. I look forward to the day that happens again. In actuallity we keep giving "Conservatives", "moderates' and "independents" the benefit of the doubt. To our detriment.
If now isn't the best time for bold progressive policy, there will never be a good time. |
Disagree. He is the manifestation of overly rapid progressivism IMO.
Newton’s third law, essentially.
Progressivism is good. It just has to be natural, and it must allow for a learning curve or it will be abandoned. |
If by overly rapid progressivism you mean we elected a black president and there are growing numbers of brown people in this country. |
Growth of people of color (not just brown) was occurring well before and when Obama was elected.
And no, that’s not what I mean.
What I mean is understanding how to effectively drive social change. |
Let's be honest. You don't want to drive social change. You feel like you're economically and socially insulated to a degree that the benefits of joining them outweigh the costs of justice. Your entire narrative on this issue, like many others, is a completely and transparently disingenuous attempt to hide that under fake support wrapped in a proposal to do nothing effective. And then to spin forever as a way of never "losing" the argument while bogging it down by sheer force of shameless will. You overestimate your capacities and underestimate ours. |
I actually do want to drive social change. Just not how you want to drive it. I told you this would happen YEARS ago on here.
Of course I underestimate the leftist agenda. It’s been an utter failure given the current climate. Or was it designed for what we have today? Some suggest that, but I think what we have is more an unintended consequence. |
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| ribeye wrote: | | OH yeah, for those (adkindo?) (ringfinger?) who so strongly believe that CNN is a liberal leaning network, do explain CNN's use of right wing operatives while acting like these are just run of the mill Republicans. |
I guess Fox News is objective and/or left leaning now too? |
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| ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | I'll ask again:
So, noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism? |
No.
It’s a push and pull dynamic. It’s not a cliff.
Think of it like a stock price. Stock prices that rise or fall do not typically occur in cliff form. It is lots of change in one direction, accompanied by a few changes in the other with a general trendline in one direction.
Focus on the trendline, not the little dips. |
I'll skip the gobblety gook (though I am impressed that you think of trendlines rather than a stationary point in time), why is this a push and pull dynamic and racism is not? |
Progress in racial attitudes is also push pull. That’s what I’m saying.
It’s not a straight line upwards. It goes up a bunch and comes down a little (backlash). Then it goes up a bunch and comes down a little. But you’re ahead of where you were. |
So why yes to one (racism ) and no to the other (progressivism)?
And I have not moved a half a hair from where I was. |
All social change is push/pull. But you can’t push too hard, and you can’t push too soft.
It’s a delicate balance. If you do push too hard, you dial it back a little and give a little pull.
Do you just water the (bleep) out of your plants? Delicate balance man. Blasting it with a firehose will kill it, not grow it! |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | OH yeah, for those (adkindo?) (ringfinger?) who so strongly believe that CNN is a liberal leaning network, do explain CNN's use of right wing operatives while acting like these are just run of the mill Republicans. |
I guess Fox News is objective and/or left leaning now too? |
As is common, you deflected and did not explain.
Oh, and comparing Fox to CNN is like comparing the extreme temperature variations of Siberia to, say, Southern California.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | I'll ask again:
So, noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism? |
No.
It’s a push and pull dynamic. It’s not a cliff.
Think of it like a stock price. Stock prices that rise or fall do not typically occur in cliff form. It is lots of change in one direction, accompanied by a few changes in the other with a general trendline in one direction.
Focus on the trendline, not the little dips. |
I'll skip the gobblety gook (though I am impressed that you think of trendlines rather than a stationary point in time), why is this a push and pull dynamic and racism is not? |
Progress in racial attitudes is also push pull. That’s what I’m saying.
It’s not a straight line upwards. It goes up a bunch and comes down a little (backlash). Then it goes up a bunch and comes down a little. But you’re ahead of where you were. |
So why yes to one (racism ) and no to the other (progressivism)?
And I have not moved a half a hair from where I was. |
All social change is push/pull. But you can’t push too hard, and you can’t push too soft.
It’s a delicate balance. If you do push too hard, you dial it back a little and give a little pull.
Do you just water the (bleep) out of your plants? Delicate balance man. Blasting it with a firehose will kill it, not grow it! |
So the taming of racism in this country, some 150 years after the Civil War, some 6-8 generations, has come too fast?
Really?
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| ringfinger wrote: | | governator wrote: | | I think Ringfinger is saying that social progress should be at the pace of the majority's comfort and not at the minority/victim's need, yes? |
Nope. Not saying that.
Social change is a multi-step process. You can’t skip steps and you have to look beyond what is in front of you and take CERTAIN lumps along the way.
Rome wasn’t built in a day. |
Anyway to describe this multi-step process, what steps have been skip and what would be a better pace for social progress if it shouldn't be driven by the minority/victims? |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Trump is the logical progression of 21st Century American conservatism.
He's 1980s Reagan without the window dressing. It's been a long time since Dems portrayed Republicans further right then they really are. I look forward to the day that happens again. In actuallity we keep giving "Conservatives", "moderates' and "independents" the benefit of the doubt. To our detriment.
If now isn't the best time for bold progressive policy, there will never be a good time. |
Disagree. He is the manifestation of overly rapid progressivism IMO.
Newton’s third law, essentially.
Progressivism is good. It just has to be natural, and it must allow for a learning curve or it will be abandoned. |
If by overly rapid progressivism you mean we elected a black president and there are growing numbers of brown people in this country. |
Growth of people of color (not just brown) was occurring well before and when Obama was elected.
And no, that’s not what I mean.
What I mean is understanding how to effectively drive social change. |
Let's be honest. You don't want to drive social change. You feel like you're economically and socially insulated to a degree that the benefits of joining them outweigh the costs of justice. Your entire narrative on this issue, like many others, is a completely and transparently disingenuous attempt to hide that under fake support wrapped in a proposal to do nothing effective. And then to spin forever as a way of never "losing" the argument while bogging it down by sheer force of shameless will. You overestimate your capacities and underestimate ours. |
I actually do want to drive social change. Just not how you want to drive it. I told you this would happen YEARS ago on here.
Of course I underestimate the leftist agenda. It’s been an utter failure given the current climate. Or was it designed for what we have today? Some suggest that, but I think what we have is more an unintended consequence. |
Here is the agenda that, by their own answers, are driving the Trump voter:
Fear of being replaced by brown, female, gay, and people of non or other religious beliefs.
Fear of not dominating the rest of the world.
Fear of having to share resources with those groups.
It is 100% replacement anxiety. Every other reason they give is just a subset of or a disguise for those reasons.
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| ribeye wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: |
So putting on a panel of all pro-Trump women who 100% support his racist comments without mentioning their backgrounds is extremely bad journalism and dangerous. It's dangerous because they are helping spread unfiltered Trump propaganda to viewers without it being labeled as such.
Things are already bad enough without the media making it worse a la 2016. |
Very fair point. But it's not like these women are a false representation of the group they were presented as. Nor did they go unchallenged by the host. It's important that we all see what those people are all about, and that's my point. |
Kos has picked up on this story, but it was here first thanks to CL.
CNN presented a group of pro-Trump political activists as average Republican voters—again
| Quote: | | In fact, what CNN identified only as a panel of Republican voters were eight Trump-supporting party activists from the rather humiliatingly self-named group Trumpettes of America. It is a group literally devoted to selling itself as American jus' folk who happen to, when asked, Still Support Trump regardless of what he does. But CNN did not mention this; again, the only identification the audience received was that they were Republicans. |
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It's a pro-wrestling move. The viewer is not seeing what they think they are seeing: The segment was orchestrated, in advance, with the parts of Republicans being played by actors who have professionally dedicated themselves to the roles. |
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It's crooked. CNN is lying to its viewers about what they are seeing. |
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I didn't dispute CL's point, as you can see above.
My point is that while the message was delivered in disingenuous fashion, the essence of the message isn't erased or invalidated. I mean is it your belief that there aren't millions of Republicans who think and speak exactly as those women did?
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| ringfinger wrote: | | the leftist agenda. |
Oh the irony.
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I didn't dispute CL's point, as you can see above.
My point is that while the message was delivered in disingenuous fashion, the essence of the message isn't erased or invalidated. I mean is it your belief that there aren't millions of Republicans who think and speak exactly as those women did? |
This was purely informational and not addressed to or about you. I just picked the most recent posting on this subject for ease to quote.
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| ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | OH yeah, for those (adkindo?) (ringfinger?) who so strongly believe that CNN is a liberal leaning network, do explain CNN's use of right wing operatives while acting like these are just run of the mill Republicans. |
I guess Fox News is objective and/or left leaning now too? |
As is common, you deflected and did not explain.
Oh, and comparing Fox to CNN is like comparing the extreme temperature variations of Siberia to, say, Southern California. |
Well Fox News has hired left wing operatives.
I mean cmon. Are we seriously at a point where people honestly dont think CNN is left leaning?
Do you think it is neutral? |
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No, I’m saying Trump is a manifestation of, essentially, political correctness run amok (among other things).
We used to say, “this thing/policy you think is bad, is actually good” and over time, more and more people agreed it was good and that’s how progress was made.
Now, we say, “this thing/policy you think is bad, makes you a bad person and even if you change your mind, you thought it once and so you are permanently a bad person”. In most cases, that is not going to cause someone to say “youre right i am a bad person” it’s going to cause them to say “(bleep) you”
And that is basically what people are saying to each other now. It isn’t rocket science and yet, it shocks me how few people (on both sides) gets that. Trump is the (bleep) you, essentially. Akin to the concept of mutually assured destruction. |
If you don't watch Bill Maher. You should when he comes back on the air after his break. The argument you're making, Bill takes time to make every week. It's why I stopped watching him. It's horse (bleep) IMO. But you aren't the only person who thinks that way.
The reason why I hate the argument you and Bill are making is because of Trump's recent comments. He said VERY racist things. And then claimed they weren't racist. And his defenders blamed Dems for using "political correctness".
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/16/socialists-are-the-enemy-and-thats-not-racist-to-s/
This isn't a chicken vs egg situation. Political correctness isn't the problem. Acknowledging racism isn't the problem. Racism is the problem.
The argument you are making is like saying, "before modern medicine was developed, there were far less illnesses." No, people always got sick. We just started identifying and classifying all the illnesses. There is greater awareness as medicine progresses. But the awareness isn't making the problem worse. It isn't making people sick.
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CNN has a very simple model. They want to present everything as a fulcrum with an equally valid left and right lever off of it, fighting for control.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | I'll ask again:
So, noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism? |
No.
It’s a push and pull dynamic. It’s not a cliff.
Think of it like a stock price. Stock prices that rise or fall do not typically occur in cliff form. It is lots of change in one direction, accompanied by a few changes in the other with a general trendline in one direction.
Focus on the trendline, not the little dips. |
I'll skip the gobblety gook (though I am impressed that you think of trendlines rather than a stationary point in time), why is this a push and pull dynamic and racism is not? |
Progress in racial attitudes is also push pull. That’s what I’m saying.
It’s not a straight line upwards. It goes up a bunch and comes down a little (backlash). Then it goes up a bunch and comes down a little. But you’re ahead of where you were. |
I'm beginning to wonder if this is not pure trolling.
Could you please just answer a question in a straight forward manner.
You answer that noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism is a NO due to this push pull theory of yours, but noticing racism, fighting racism, and disapproving of racism is what creates racism is a YES even though it also follows this push-pull
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I didn't dispute CL's point, as you can see above.
My point is that while the message was delivered in disingenuous fashion, the essence of the message isn't erased or invalidated. I mean is it your belief that there aren't millions of Republicans who think and speak exactly as those women did? |
This was purely informational and not addressed to or about you. I just picked the most recent posting on this subject for ease to quote. |
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| Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Trump is the logical progression of 21st Century American conservatism.
He's 1980s Reagan without the window dressing. It's been a long time since Dems portrayed Republicans further right then they really are. I look forward to the day that happens again. In actuallity we keep giving "Conservatives", "moderates' and "independents" the benefit of the doubt. To our detriment.
If now isn't the best time for bold progressive policy, there will never be a good time. |
Disagree. He is the manifestation of overly rapid progressivism IMO.
Newton’s third law, essentially.
Progressivism is good. It just has to be natural, and it must allow for a learning curve or it will be abandoned. |
If by overly rapid progressivism you mean we elected a black president and there are growing numbers of brown people in this country. |
Growth of people of color (not just brown) was occurring well before and when Obama was elected.
And no, that’s not what I mean.
What I mean is understanding how to effectively drive social change. |
Let's be honest. You don't want to drive social change. You feel like you're economically and socially insulated to a degree that the benefits of joining them outweigh the costs of justice. Your entire narrative on this issue, like many others, is a completely and transparently disingenuous attempt to hide that under fake support wrapped in a proposal to do nothing effective. And then to spin forever as a way of never "losing" the argument while bogging it down by sheer force of shameless will. You overestimate your capacities and underestimate ours. |
I actually do want to drive social change. Just not how you want to drive it. I told you this would happen YEARS ago on here.
Of course I underestimate the leftist agenda. It’s been an utter failure given the current climate. Or was it designed for what we have today? Some suggest that, but I think what we have is more an unintended consequence. |
Here is the agenda that, by their own answers, are driving the Trump voter:
Fear of being replaced by brown, female, gay, and people of non or other religious beliefs.
Fear of not dominating the rest of the world.
Fear of having to share resources with those groups.
It is 100% replacement anxiety. Every other reason they give is just a subset of or a disguise for those reasons. |
LOL. This is the coastal elite theory. |
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Trump is a manifestation of white fear and resentment. There's some class resentment and misogyny mixed in, but he's basically an expression of American revanchist white nationalism.
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| kikanga wrote: | | Political correctness isn't the problem. Acknowledging racism isn't the problem. Racism is the problem. |
Exactly. This notion that racism is fueled by efforts to identify and condemn is patently false and willfully ignores what racism is derived from and fueled by.
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Omar Little wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | Trump is the logical progression of 21st Century American conservatism.
He's 1980s Reagan without the window dressing. It's been a long time since Dems portrayed Republicans further right then they really are. I look forward to the day that happens again. In actuallity we keep giving "Conservatives", "moderates' and "independents" the benefit of the doubt. To our detriment.
If now isn't the best time for bold progressive policy, there will never be a good time. |
Disagree. He is the manifestation of overly rapid progressivism IMO.
Newton’s third law, essentially.
Progressivism is good. It just has to be natural, and it must allow for a learning curve or it will be abandoned. |
If by overly rapid progressivism you mean we elected a black president and there are growing numbers of brown people in this country. |
Growth of people of color (not just brown) was occurring well before and when Obama was elected.
And no, that’s not what I mean.
What I mean is understanding how to effectively drive social change. |
Let's be honest. You don't want to drive social change. You feel like you're economically and socially insulated to a degree that the benefits of joining them outweigh the costs of justice. Your entire narrative on this issue, like many others, is a completely and transparently disingenuous attempt to hide that under fake support wrapped in a proposal to do nothing effective. And then to spin forever as a way of never "losing" the argument while bogging it down by sheer force of shameless will. You overestimate your capacities and underestimate ours. |
I actually do want to drive social change. Just not how you want to drive it. I told you this would happen YEARS ago on here.
Of course I underestimate the leftist agenda. It’s been an utter failure given the current climate. Or was it designed for what we have today? Some suggest that, but I think what we have is more an unintended consequence. |
Here is the agenda that, by their own answers, are driving the Trump voter:
Fear of being replaced by brown, female, gay, and people of non or other religious beliefs.
Fear of not dominating the rest of the world.
Fear of having to share resources with those groups.
It is 100% replacement anxiety. Every other reason they give is just a subset of or a disguise for those reasons. |
LOL. This is the coastal elite theory. |
Just as a helpful hint, when you're out trying to pretend to be a Democrat, you want to avoid words like coastal elites, which are the terminology of your actual tribe. It's a tell. But frankly what good is it to explain tells to you when you've got your cards turned around and think we're the ones being fooled? With all the practice you get, you think you might get better at this.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | Political correctness isn't the problem. Acknowledging racism isn't the problem. Racism is the problem. |
Exactly. This notion that racism is fueled by efforts to identify and condemn is patently false and willfully ignores what racism is derived from and fueled by. |
It is also a gaslighting tool to keep people in their place. Same as they used to tell abused women to placate their abusers.
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| ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | ribeye wrote: | I'll ask again:
So, noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism? |
No.
It’s a push and pull dynamic. It’s not a cliff.
Think of it like a stock price. Stock prices that rise or fall do not typically occur in cliff form. It is lots of change in one direction, accompanied by a few changes in the other with a general trendline in one direction.
Focus on the trendline, not the little dips. |
I'll skip the gobblety gook (though I am impressed that you think of trendlines rather than a stationary point in time), why is this a push and pull dynamic and racism is not? |
Progress in racial attitudes is also push pull. That’s what I’m saying.
It’s not a straight line upwards. It goes up a bunch and comes down a little (backlash). Then it goes up a bunch and comes down a little. But you’re ahead of where you were. |
I'm beginning to wonder if this is not pure trolling.
Could you please just answer a question in a straight forward manner.
You answer that noticing progressivism, fighting progressivism, and disapproving of progressivism is what creates progressivism is a NO due to this push pull theory of yours, but noticing racism, fighting racism, and disapproving of racism is what creates racism is a YES even though it also follows this push-pull |
You are putting words into my mouth. Err, keyboard.
It doesn’t matter what your ism is. If you push too hard, you end up back where you were or even further behind. If you don’t push hard enough, you get nowhere.
Think of it like a plant. Too much water will kill it. Not enough will kill it. You seem to think blasting and flooding the plant with a firehose 24/7 is the same as daily use of a watering can. And when it does use TWO firehoses!!
Stop thinking about the binary. It’s not use water always or never use water. Think about how you’re using the water. How often and the water pressure and the quality of the water, etc. |
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I'm beginning to wonder if this is not pure trolling.
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Can they impeach the (bleep) demagogue yet? He's now a named unindicted co-conspirator - really, the mastermind of - felonious campaign finance fraud in a presidential election. Hell, we learn today that his former White House Communications Director lied to Congress under oath last year about her role in the whole criminal conspiracy - think she just came up with that little obstruction of justice tactic on her own?
Impeach this (bleep) stain on American history now. Please harangue your representatives' interns over the phone every damn day to begin an impeachment inquiry asa-damn-p. For the love of the whole American experiment and basic rule of law, impeach the (bleep).
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