Klobuchar making the interesting decision to stake out the center left, let’s work together territory. In a year where getting as far left on a few issues as you can while keeping touch with the mainstream left seems the prime territory, she’s going to get to the right of most of the field. Can’t say whether she’s right or not, but she is certainly trying to get the Biden position.
Center left, that's probably why I like her. Although she might be a mean boss!
I’m solid mainstream left with some pretty far left idealism mixed in. I want the party to find that sweet spot where they move some of that left agenda forward, not just nibble at it. I think a move toward single payer is getting ripe and there’s going to have to be some way to offset automation with a basic income. But it’s got to be people who know how to get it done. I so want the mainstream Dems and the far left to come to agreement, not try to walk each other off.
There's a few specific reasons the mainstream dems can't come together with the lefty Lucys.
#1. whether or not dem voters want to admit this. these mainstream aka corporate dems have their hands in the pot with these corporations via lobbyist and/or campaign financing. It doesnt' mean they are as morally empty as the republicans are. But it means a lot of the things they actually do and actually vote for has a lot to do with their big donors who are connected to these large corporations. You have to pay off your debts as a politician. You will not get put into office after being heavily financed by big Corps/Wall street and the likes without having to pay them their due. They spent millions on you. You owe them. It's really that simple. It doesnt mean you wont do anything for your voters and small donation people too. It means you will run into a mind field of conflict of interests because of this.
#2 one of the reason they dont feel #1 is that bad is because they also dont want to scare off the rich people. They literally believe that can happen because we've all grown up trying to say the word socialism is bad and capitalism is good. without looking at the nuances of both words and or the context when they are or have been used throughout history.
#3 some people are more afraid of losing their current seat than they are of trying to enact actual change in the right direction.
So what may happen is the lefty lucys may end up having to take over the party in order for these drastic things to take course. similar to how the Rush limbaugh/hannity/Tea party of crazees Run the republican party now.
Now dont worry about who's channel this is. just watch the video
Doctor Tells Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez He Agrees With Trump's Plan
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez STUNS Congress
Trump EXPOSED By Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Tomi Lahren Gets Dunked On
ep. Ocasio-Cortez On The Democratic Party, Green New Deal, 2020 Candidates
Then I want you to listen to this
MIT Professor Destroys Entire DAVOS Panel, Silences Confused Panel Host
I probably will never again post this many video links anywhere. There's a reason for me doing this. Try to just listen to what is being said in all of these videos. Really simple, straight forward stuff that we US citizens can pretty much all agree with. But after you listen to that last Davos video. You should realize whats going on here. That davos video pretty much sums up the corporate dem/mainstream dem side of things. If we keep going with the status quo with small incremental change, we are so far gone the way of corporations are more important than citizens that it wont matter who's in office in 10 to 20 years from now. we will be so messed up it wont even matter at that point. When a very very very tiny percent of people have as much wealth as the rest of us. You have to make DRASTIC changes to turn the dial back. And thats the thing, people act like the dial was never back there before when it clearly was, Read your history books. Google it. The 70% tax thing is not new. Medicare for all aint new when you look at other developed 1st world countries that we are friends with. Investing heavily in infrastructure and changing from this type of energy source to that type of energy source, is not new. Free college tuition are darn near free, IS NOT NEW.
You will here some corporate/mainstream dems trying to act like some of those things are brand new ideas and far left and they are neither to be honest. they are far left from the right yes. but not far left from where we've been before and we have never said america was a socialist country. You will obviously hear dumb republican talking heads hating on those ideas even though we've done them(most of them) right here in the US of A in years past.
If that lady was old enough to run right now. She would've already had my vote. Why? simple logic. this aint rocket science. Read your history books. Ask around. ask some professionals in these fields. watch the patterns, follow the money. And lasty, ask relevant simple questions to industries we know we have issues with. and legislate from there. She should not be some star person. she should be the norm. All of our politicians should be just like that. even if they have different ideas and sit on the other side of the aisle.
I can already tell you what will come of this from Trump. “Look at how crazy the liberals are in California! They are willing to spend tens of billions of dollars on a bullet train that goes nowhere, but are unwilling to spend five billion dollars on a wall to help secure Americas borders.”
Overall, Americans say, 50 percent to 33 percent, that President Donald Trump is too extreme. They say the same of the Democratic Party, 42 percent to 34 percent, and of the Republican Party, 40 percent to 36 percent. (emphasis mine)
As I read this, the fact that Republicans are seen to be less extreme than the Democrats (albeit very slightly) is scary, or at least, with all the crap that Republicans pull, this has to be bad news for Democrats and their messaging.
So, once again, does the party satisfy the more extreme to get more enthusiasm, while alienating moderates, or do they appeal to the middle where the population is more rural or blue collar, while offering more progressive ideas on the coasts or in large urban centers?
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:41 pm Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
Quote:
Overall, Americans say, 50 percent to 33 percent, that President Donald Trump is too extreme. They say the same of the Democratic Party, 42 percent to 34 percent, and of the Republican Party, 40 percent to 36 percent. (emphasis mine)
As I read this, the fact that Republicans are seen to be less extreme than the Democrats (albeit very slightly) is scary, or at least, with all the crap that Republicans pull, this has to be bad news for Democrats and their messaging.
So, once again, does the party satisfy the more extreme to get more enthusiasm, while alienating moderates, or do they appeal to the middle where the population is more rural or blue collar, while offering more progressive ideas on the coasts or in large urban centers?
Extremism is generally not healthy in life or in politics. However, Americans are far more liberal than the mainstream media would have you believe. Here is what the polls say:
The Economy
82 percent of Americans think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington.
69 percent think large businesses have too much power and influence in Washington.
59 percent—and 72 percent of likely voters—think Wall Street has too much power and influence in Washington.
78 percent of likely voters support stronger rules and enforcement on the financial industry.
65 percent of Americans think our economic system “unfairly favors powerful interests.”
59 percent of Americans—and 43 percent of Republicans—think corporations make “too much profit.”
Inequality
82 percent of Americans think economic inequality is a “very big” (48 percent) or “moderately big” (34 percent) problem. Even 69 percent of Republicans share this view.
66 percent of Americans think money and wealth should be distributed more evenly.
72 percent of Americans say it is “extremely” or “very” important, and 23 percent say it is “somewhat important,” to reduce poverty.
59 percent of registered voters—and 51 percent of Republicans—favor raising the maximum amount that low-wage workers can make and still be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, from $14,820 to $18,000.
Money in Politics
96 percent of Americans—including 96 percent of Republicans—believe money in politics is to blame for the dysfunction of the U.S. political system.
84 percent of Americans—including 80 percent of Republicans—believe money has too much influence in politics.
78 percent of Americans say we need sweeping new laws to reduce the influence of money in politics.
73 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision.
Taxes
80 percent of Americans think some corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes.
78 percent think some wealthy people don’t pay their fair share of taxes.
76 percent believe the wealthiest Americans should pay higher taxes.
60 percent of registered voters believe corporations pay too little in taxes.
87 percent of Americans say it is critical to preserve Social Security, even if it means increasing Social Security taxes paid by wealthy Americans.
67 percent of Americans support lifting the cap to require higher-income workers to pay Social Security taxes on all of their wages.
Workers’ Rights
61 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—approve of labor unions.
74 percent of registered voters—including 71 percent of Republicans—support requiring employers to offer paid parental and medical leave.
78 percent of likely voters favor establishing a national fund that offers all workers 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.
Health Care
60 percent of Americans believe “it is the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage.”
60 percent of registered voters favor “expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American.”
58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.”
64 percent of registered voters favor their state accepting the Obamacare plan for expanding Medicaid in their state.
Education
63 percent of registered voters—including 47 percent of Republicans—of Americans favor making four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free.
Criminal Justice
57 percent of Americans believe police officers generally treat blacks and other minorities differently than they treat whites.
60 percent of Americans believe the recent killings of black men by police are part of a broader pattern of how police treat black Americans (compared with 39 percent who believe they are isolated incidents).
Immigration
68 percent of Americans—including 48 percent of Republicans—believe the country’s openness to people from around the world “is essential to who we are as a nation.” Just 29 percent say that “if America is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation.”
65 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—say immigrants strengthen the country “because of their hard work and talents.” Just 26 percent say immigrants are a burden “because they take our jobs, housing and health care.”
64 percent of Americans think an increasing number of people from different races, ethnic groups, and nationalities makes the country a better place to live. Only 5 percent say it makes the United States a worse place to live, and 29 percent say it makes no difference.
76 percent of registered voters—including 69 percent of Republicans—support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children (Dreamers) to stay in the country. 58 percent think Dreamers should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements. Another 18 percent think they should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens. Only 15 percent think they should be removed or deported from the country.
Abortion and Women’s Health
58 percent of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
68 percent of Americans—including 54 percent of Republicans—support the requirement for private health insurance plans to cover the full cost of birth control.
Same-Sex Marriage
62 percent of Americans—including 70 percent of independents and 40 percent of Republicans—support same-sex marriage.
74 percent of millennials (born after 1981) support same-sex marriage.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:32 pm Post subject:
Surf, I agree with you on those polls, but when you start to dig into the how, people start to moderate a lot. And most people want some moderate tone with some progressive policy. Getting the middle left and the left together can get the left a big jump down the road, but if they are going to replicate Trump, who castigates his moderate right (not that there are many left due to the effective purge) by going after the majority of Democrats, it puts a lot of otherwise allies off. Theees an opportunity to get single payer, it it is probably a multiple chunk deal. Strengthen Obamacare. Deal with drug pricing, get a public option going. Maybe if you do real well in 2020, go further, faster. If it is going to be a tough system to unwind and replace. And if you give back all the goodwill between now and 2020, you’ll get nothing. Gotta have a plan. Pissingnoff 75% of the electorate probably isn’t a plan. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 7:36 pm Post subject:
governator wrote:
How’s Schultz sound so far?
Like a selfish prick _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:44 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
governator wrote:
How’s Schultz sound so far?
Like a selfish prick
I actually find him more detestable than Trump. Trump is just the douchebag that he is, and he makes no pretense otherwise. Schultz is pretending to be someone he's not, and he knows the consequences of his attempted ruse are grave. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:57 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
Surf, I agree with you on those polls, but when you start to dig into the how, people start to moderate a lot. And most people want some moderate tone with some progressive policy. Getting the middle left and the left together can get the left a big jump down the road, but if they are going to replicate Trump, who castigates his moderate right (not that there are many left due to the effective purge) by going after the majority of Democrats, it puts a lot of otherwise allies off. Theees an opportunity to get single payer, it it is probably a multiple chunk deal. Strengthen Obamacare. Deal with drug pricing, get a public option going. Maybe if you do real well in 2020, go further, faster. If it is going to be a tough system to unwind and replace. And if you give back all the goodwill between now and 2020, you’ll get nothing. Gotta have a plan. Pissingnoff 75% of the electorate probably isn’t a plan.
I agree with much of what you say. Just pointing out how much more liberal Americans are in principle than I think most realize. I worked for over a decade in the research space and know well how much responses can change based on the questions being asked and the answer choices being given.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject:
Andrew Yang for President! I just listened to an interview with him on Joe Rogan’s podcast...very compelling message. Another very strong candidate that has a chance to stand out from the pack.
Joe Rogan’s Podcast with Andrew Yang - just give him 15 mins. He is approaching the Presidency from a completely different perspective, and focused on perhaps the most pressing issue facing America in the next 10 years...he is focused on the massive impact automation is going to have (already having) on the US economy:
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:23 pm Post subject:
Surfitall wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
Surf, I agree with you on those polls, but when you start to dig into the how, people start to moderate a lot. And most people want some moderate tone with some progressive policy. Getting the middle left and the left together can get the left a big jump down the road, but if they are going to replicate Trump, who castigates his moderate right (not that there are many left due to the effective purge) by going after the majority of Democrats, it puts a lot of otherwise allies off. Theees an opportunity to get single payer, it it is probably a multiple chunk deal. Strengthen Obamacare. Deal with drug pricing, get a public option going. Maybe if you do real well in 2020, go further, faster. If it is going to be a tough system to unwind and replace. And if you give back all the goodwill between now and 2020, you’ll get nothing. Gotta have a plan. Pissingnoff 75% of the electorate probably isn’t a plan.
I agree with much of what you say. Just pointing out how much more liberal Americans are in principle than I think most realize. I worked for over a decade in the research space and know well how much responses can change based on the questions being asked and the answer choices being given.
I don’t disagree with you, although Americans tend to be more for concepts than reality (check the difference in single payer polls when you add the element of cost). Either way though, I think there’s certainly a better middle ground between these constituencies than there is value in scorching it. We have to find that. The most moderate Democrat is a much closer friend to the most progressive democrat than either is to the real opposition. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:51 pm Post subject:
Quote:
America’s 1% hasn’t had this much wealth since just before the Great Depression
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/its-been-almost-a-100-years-since-the-americas-1-had-so-much-wealth-2019-02-11
For the primaries, I'm voting for whichever candidate has the best plan of action to combat wealth and income inequality in America. It's really that simple. Acknowledging the problem is only step 1. Make me believe YOU are the person to "fix" it. And I put fix in quotes because I know the best 1 President could probably do is reverse trends. And make policy that can be built upon into the future. Past their tenure. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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There's having high expectations for your staff and there's this:
Quote:
In a potentially embarrassing AP report for the newest 2020 presidential nominee Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), more than a dozen current and former staffers describe her as an abusive boss who often tried to have job offers rescinded when they tried to jump ship.
Interviews with some of Klobuchar’s Capitol Hill staffers portray a hostile work environment that was run on fear, abuse, and humiliation. According to staffers, the overly critical senator will sometimes turn a single mistake into a “multi-day affair” of shaming and demeaning, followed by post-work angry late-night phone calls and all-caps emails.
“The way she treats staff is disqualifying,” said a former female staffer, who made it clear that Klobuchar “has fully earned reputation” as a horrible boss “independent of her gender.”
The former staffer added that she would not vote for Klobuchar in the Democratic primary despite her progressive political views.
Three former Klobuchar staffers told the Huffington Post their boss made them or their coworkers run personal errands for her, such as picking up her dry cleaning, packing her suitcases for travel, and even cleaning and washing her dishes at her house. Four former Hill staffers said she had a reputation for calling prospective employers any time she felt her staffers may betray her and work elsewhere, with intent of sabotaging their chances of being hired.
“There’s definitely something there,” a former male staffer said, adding her behavior “crosses the line.”
According to congressional research, Klobuchar has one of the highest rates of staff turnover in Congress. A Politico report from last year names Klobuchar as one of the “Worst Bosses” in Congress.
If any of you listen to podcasts, "Pod Save America" is one with Obama ex-staffers talking about various political topics. It's probably the most blatantly partisan thing I pay attention to, but I find the insider knowledge interesting.
Anyway, apparently it's been well-known within political circles that Klobuchar is like that. In particular, they made sure to distinguish the "hardass/ high expectations but ultimately a good boss" with Klobuchar's brand of being legitimately a nightmare boss.
So yeah, that's a no for me. Anyway I don't really like the idea of running on the premise of electability which seems to be the main thing distinguishing her from the field. Whereas with Warren it's really clear why she's running and what she seeks to do, Klobuchar seems to be pretty average Democrat whose main plus point is electability.. Not a big fan of that.
Surf, I agree with you on those polls, but when you start to dig into the how, people start to moderate a lot. And most people want some moderate tone with some progressive policy. Getting the middle left and the left together can get the left a big jump down the road, but if they are going to replicate Trump, who castigates his moderate right (not that there are many left due to the effective purge) by going after the majority of Democrats, it puts a lot of otherwise allies off. Theees an opportunity to get single payer, it it is probably a multiple chunk deal. Strengthen Obamacare. Deal with drug pricing, get a public option going. Maybe if you do real well in 2020, go further, faster. If it is going to be a tough system to unwind and replace. And if you give back all the goodwill between now and 2020, you’ll get nothing. Gotta have a plan. Pissingnoff 75% of the electorate probably isn’t a plan.
I agree with much of what you say. Just pointing out how much more liberal Americans are in principle than I think most realize. I worked for over a decade in the research space and know well how much responses can change based on the questions being asked and the answer choices being given.
I don’t disagree with you, although Americans tend to be more for concepts than reality (check the difference in single payer polls when you add the element of cost). Either way though, I think there’s certainly a better middle ground between these constituencies than there is value in scorching it. We have to find that. The most moderate Democrat is a much closer friend to the most progressive democrat than either is to the real opposition.
Goes back to what surf posted. They are closer than they actually even know. they being the less so called progressive side. People dont want to admit it but the media has done a helluva job on most of us. If the media pushes a narrative long enough it starts to sway our thinking. That is what's going on with those less progressive dems. I'm not talking coal country dems. thats a different discussion..that has to be had as well.
There's having high expectations for your staff and there's this:
Quote:
In a potentially embarrassing AP report for the newest 2020 presidential nominee Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), more than a dozen current and former staffers describe her as an abusive boss who often tried to have job offers rescinded when they tried to jump ship.
Interviews with some of Klobuchar’s Capitol Hill staffers portray a hostile work environment that was run on fear, abuse, and humiliation. According to staffers, the overly critical senator will sometimes turn a single mistake into a “multi-day affair” of shaming and demeaning, followed by post-work angry late-night phone calls and all-caps emails.
“The way she treats staff is disqualifying,” said a former female staffer, who made it clear that Klobuchar “has fully earned reputation” as a horrible boss “independent of her gender.”
The former staffer added that she would not vote for Klobuchar in the Democratic primary despite her progressive political views.
Three former Klobuchar staffers told the Huffington Post their boss made them or their coworkers run personal errands for her, such as picking up her dry cleaning, packing her suitcases for travel, and even cleaning and washing her dishes at her house. Four former Hill staffers said she had a reputation for calling prospective employers any time she felt her staffers may betray her and work elsewhere, with intent of sabotaging their chances of being hired.
“There’s definitely something there,” a former male staffer said, adding her behavior “crosses the line.”
According to congressional research, Klobuchar has one of the highest rates of staff turnover in Congress. A Politico report from last year names Klobuchar as one of the “Worst Bosses” in Congress.
If any of you listen to podcasts, "Pod Save America" is one with Obama ex-staffers talking about various political topics. It's probably the most blatantly partisan thing I pay attention to, but I find the insider knowledge interesting.
Anyway, apparently it's been well-known within political circles that Klobuchar is like that. In particular, they made sure to distinguish the "hardass/ high expectations but ultimately a good boss" with Klobuchar's brand of being legitimately a nightmare boss.
So yeah, that's a no for me. Anyway I don't really like the idea of running on the premise of electability which seems to be the main thing distinguishing her from the field. Whereas with Warren it's really clear why she's running and what she seeks to do, Klobuchar seems to be pretty average Democrat whose main plus point is electability.. Not a big fan of that.
The entire electability thing needs to die. This is again another narrative thats been pushed. Anyone can win if you choose to vote for them. They dont need some special aura of electability in order to be voted for. Vote for people who have the best policies along with the most realistic ways of getting those policies to completition. It's not rocket science.
A massive likeness of President Donald Trump mashed up with
the “God-Emperor” character of the Warhammer 40K
video games presided over a parade in Italy over the weekend
The entire electability thing needs to die. This is again another narrative thats been pushed. Anyone can win if you choose to vote for them. They dont need some special aura of electability in order to be voted for. Vote for people who have the best policies along with the most realistic ways of getting those policies to completition. It's not rocket science.
. . . if you choose to vote for them. . . .
That's all.
The most realistic ways of completing ALL that the more liberal Democrats want is impossible, or nearly so. I would like a BMW i8. If someone were to promise one to me, I might be inclined to like them. If they then said but it will cost $150K+, I'm now less interested.
Obviously, the idea it to get the most votes. Appealing to the extreme is one approach; appealing to a broader section, is another. You appear to believe in the former, and I tend to believe in the latter. You see, I'm not convinced that if 535 AOC's ran, that the Dems could win either chamber.
As 24 said, people like all the ideas until they see the price tag for them, and I don't have to tell you, whatever the price tag may be, and there will certainly be strong disagreement, the Republicans will scare the (bleep) out of middle class Americans with their versions. To many, when they hear, it will be expensive, then, no it won't, then, it will be expensive, then, no it won't, just which one will resonate? _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:33 am Post subject:
Can Democrats win votes from Minority families by vowing to do all they can to fix race based sentences
Many minorities still vote Republican based on Jobs and economy vs equality.. but many .. too many have been racially profiled and know people or have relatives given ridiculous sentences because of their race.
Admit they know there is a problem and then prove they will work to fix it.
Pick Judges and start analyzing them.. how much time do they give for same crimes but different race *I am incensed over 8 year prison sentences to minorities who tried to vote.. but did so improperly.. would whitey get that sentence?
Justice is supposed to be blind
stolen quote from quora
Quote:
If you visit your local courthouse, chances are if you live in a Western or Westernized nation, the courthouse will have a statue or plaque of a blindfolded woman holding a scale in one hand and sometimes a sword in the other.
This is Lady Justice, who represents…well, justice. Her scale represents equality (duh) and her sword represents decisiveness and just punishment. But why is she blindfolded? Because Lady Justice isn’t biased. Be it because of race, gender, religion, political stance, you name it, the blindfold is just a catch all for all things that differentiate people. Lady Justice doesn’t care about who comes to her. She cares about their relation to the law and the law only.
Why is McConnell pushing to vote on the AOC's Green Bill?
They want to try to break her spirit quickly?
It what Democrats call a stunt vote, trying to get Democrats to lock in to a concept that is not an actual bill, to provide ammunition for subsequent attacks during reelection, or to attempt to try to split the party.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:26 am Post subject:
ribeye wrote:
ContagiousInspiration wrote:
Why is McConnell pushing to vote on the AOC's Green Bill?
They want to try to break her spirit quickly?
It what Democrats call a stunt vote, trying to get Democrats to lock in to a concept that is not an actual bill, to provide ammunition for subsequent attacks during reelection, or to attempt to try to split the party.
Why is McConnell pushing to vote on the AOC's Green Bill?
They want to try to break her spirit quickly?
It what Democrats call a stunt vote, trying to get Democrats to lock in to a concept that is not an actual bill, to provide ammunition for subsequent attacks during reelection, or to attempt to try to split the party.
You know how turtle wouldn't put any new budget to a vote because Trump wouldn't sign it? He called it stunt voting. He doesn't like it for his side, but if it helps them, he's happy to use it.
Andrew Yang for President! I just listened to an interview with him on Joe Rogan’s podcast...very compelling message. Another very strong candidate that has a chance to stand out from the pack.
Joe Rogan’s Podcast with Andrew Yang - just give him 15 mins. He is approaching the Presidency from a completely different perspective, and focused on perhaps the most pressing issue facing America in the next 10 years...he is focused on the massive impact automation is going to have (already having) on the US economy:
thought it was a very interesting pod and I found myself swayed in favor of some sort of UBI
regarding his candidacy though, I'd rather see him as some sort of cabinet member _________________ one dog goes that way the other dog goes the other way
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