Watch out for Pramila Jayapal's passionate questioning regarding the child separation policy. If anything hit a nerve (and that is giving the benefit of doubt that Whitaker has any humanity or empathy), it was her questioning.
Jayapal. Raises her hand up as if to say, Do you have any humanity at all?
Whitaker: (begins to slowly move his head left to right as if to say no). I understand the policy of zero tolerance . . . _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:05 pm Post subject:
Crowley, the powerful progressive democrat that AOC beat, was just on MSNBC, and seemed genuinely pleased by and supportive of her. Pretty classy guy. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 1:08 pm Post subject:
Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin.
Chris ‘imma close my state’s beaches as governor so my family can have a private beach day’ Christie?
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 2:23 pm Post subject:
governator wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin.
Chris ‘imma close my state’s beaches as governor so my family can have a private beach day’ Christie?
Yep. That same Christie. I would never vote for him over a Dem.
But he feels like the Republican President we should've had.
Historically, the same party rarely wins the presidency 3 times in a row. Watching that Christie interview, he felt like a George W/McCain/Romney type as opposed to a Trump type.
Again, I would never vote for him. But if there were a bunch of Chris Christie's occupying the Republican Senate and House seats, maybe we'd be better off.
He's closer to a rational, conservative opposition party member than the Trumpers. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin.
Chris ‘imma close my state’s beaches as governor so my family can have a private beach day’ Christie?
Yep. That same Christie. I would never vote for him over a Dem.
But he feels like the Republican President we should've had.
Historically, the same party rarely wins the presidency 3 times in a row. Watching that Christie interview, he felt like a George W/McCain/Romney type as opposed to a Trump type.
Again, I would never vote for him. But if there were a bunch of Chris Christie's occupying the Republican Senate and House seats, maybe we'd be better off.
He's closer to a rational, conservative opposition party member than the Trumpers.
I don’t kno man, even ‘verbally oppose trump’ Kasich would still toe the party line... the GOP u described don’t exist no more
Maybe if you guys watch it, you'll understand what I'm saying.
I remember there was a town hall in New Hampshire in 2016 where Christie basically predicted all the chaos of the Trump administration and exposed Trump as a fraud and liar. We all remember Cruz's battles and name calling with Trump, but Christie was extremely harsh on Trump in the early days of the primary. Then he drops out, starts craving the limelight eventually, gets on the transition team hoping for an appointment to the administration, and suddenly Trump becomes a "friend." I just wish the media would play some of the stuff he said during the primary whenever he attacks all the awful people in Trump's administration and paints Trump as some sort of victim.
I guess he's "reasonable" from time to time, but he's just a coward like the rest of the Republicans. _________________ ¡Hala Madrid!
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:43 pm Post subject:
Christie has been friends with Trump a long time, and he also ran a deeply corrupt administration. He was smart enough to get others to take the fall for it. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:45 pm Post subject:
Kingston got absolutely roasted by Malcolm Nance on Maher. At one point, Nance said, “I’ll use a NASCAR analogy so you can understand it”. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:59 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
Here's the interview:
Maybe if you guys watch it, you'll understand what I'm saying.
Yep, Republican Classic, but he never would have beaten Hillary in an election that was so deeply anti-establishment. Trump had to have a perfect storm in order to win and he got it. I’d give a lot to have a Republican like him in office right now over Trump.
Christie is wisely looking ahead to a post-Trump party that will need a more affable leader to step in. He's also playing both sides, appealing to Trumpies by essentially supporting everything he does but occasionally knocking him on smallish details to appease the Never Trumpers. I think he also knows once he criticizes Trump for anything he instantly gains a measure of cred among liberal circles as a more moderate, even tempered alternative. He's a horrible man and as corrupt a politician as we have. _________________ 14-5-3-12
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:55 pm Post subject:
VicXLakers wrote:
Mr Whitaker..if you want your point heard remember the three B's ...
be brief
be concise
and
be done...
Mr VicXLakers, I see your three B's are done. Mods can we move on? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
Christie is wisely looking ahead to a post-Trump party that will need a more affable leader to step in. He's also playing both sides, appealing to Trumpies by essentially supporting everything he does but occasionally knocking him on smallish details to appease the Never Trumpers. I think he also knows once he criticizes Trump for anything he instantly gains a measure of cred among liberal circles as a more moderate, even tempered alternative. He's a horrible man and as corrupt a politician as we have.
Christie probably felt that all the noise and bad pub around bridge-gate would be too much of a detriment. Now, such an incident by Trump would be bottom fold at best and forgotten by the next day. Christie will be like a saint to Republicans by comparison to the swamp master. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo"
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 9:10 am Post subject:
Watched Christie on Bill Maher. He's slick. He admitted to Bridge Gate, in a sense. He said he was responsible for his subordinates but not the architect of the closing was the gist. He distanced himself from Trump while staying in the fold. He's positioning for something. He was entertaining. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:13 am Post subject:
I'm not a Virginia residents so I'll rely on the opinions of those AA's who are.
If I have it correct he's done quite a bit to benefit AA's in the state. As a outsider I'll not give Northam a pass on his indiscretion, he did a no no.
Again not knowing first hand how much he does for the AA community in Virginia I'll research his accomplishments. If his policies for good outweigh his indiscretion I'll make a decision.
If he wore blackface but open doors of opportunity which outweighs which?
Virginians are split on governor’s fate amid blackface scandal, poll shows
Virginians are deadlocked over whether Gov. Ralph Northam (D) should step down after the emergence of a photo on his 1984 medical school yearbook page depicting people in blackface and Ku Klux Klan garb, with African Americans saying by a wide margin that he should remain in office despite the offensive image, according to a Washington Post-Schar School poll.
Quote:
“He’s been a good governor, and he’s been good, as far as I know, to black people,” 76-year-old Louise Butler, an African-American woman who lives in Richmond and grew up there when the city was segregated, told The Post. She doubts that Northam still holds whatever racial views he held in 1984.
_________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:36 pm Post subject:
Seems like some really stupid politicians keep getting voted in by citizens
Lame Northam hopefully was being super stupid and just trying to not have to say Slave or Slavery ...
IF any africans actually came over via the same method of indentured servitude that whites did I will bet it was under 1% of the total.. SO HOW can any human alive today calling Black people working here during colonial times "Indentured Servants" Unless.. maybe we now find family members who "Owned" some Indentured Servants
This is getting (bleep) scary...
Northam gone
Fairfax gone
Republican in??
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Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:43 pm Post subject:
Blacks are in a damned if we do and damned if we don't regarding Northam . If you complain about him you may be saying you don't like his blackface or KKK costume because it promotes racism. If you don't you may be classed with acceptance.
My position is, sticks and stones. I don't like what Northam did. If what I read he did, is doing, to help the Black community is true I'm conflicted.
He may still hold the same racist views. If with those views he's helping my community, where should I option? I option to dislike the man, accept his helping my community.
Call me a N, I don't like it but in reality who's most harmed? You've classed with David Dukes, I, understanding racism, class with the Honorable Dr. Martin Luther King.
If you open doors that allow me to advance, I, speaking for myself, won't like you, the person, but will walk through the open doors. Pride comes before the fall.
WE know racism exists in America, to deny it would be living with a ostrich mentality. I was taught racism is a sickness. There is no cure pill for the malady. IMO it's not inbred, it's a belief taught. Each of us has the obligation (strong wording) to teach their child the wrong of racism. If enough are taught one day in the very far away future the malady will be extinguished.
Please pardon my bloviated (SAS) post. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin.
The bar is so low right now that of course he comes off as likable.
Then again, he's trying to sell a book and set up his life after politics.
Personally, it takes way more than a few appearances on late night talk shows to make me change my opinion of someone with years and years of solid proof that he's a waste of oxygen.
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Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:53 am Post subject:
Hector the Pup wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Did anybody else see Chris Christie on Bill Maher last night? He's infinitely more tolerable than Ann Coulter of Jack Kingston (Trump supporter).
But it's tough for me to describe why I prefer Christie to those people by such a large margin.
The bar is so low right now that of course he comes off as likable.
Then again, he's trying to sell a book and set up his life after politics.
Personally, it takes way more than a few appearances on late night talk shows to make me change my opinion of someone with years and years of solid proof that he's a waste of oxygen.
Exactly. One of the more bizarre and somewhat disturbing results of the last 2 years of Trumpness is how the evaluation of certain political figures has been re-calibrated in ways that undeservedly flattering. _________________ You thought God was an architect, now you know
He’s something like a pipe bomb ready to blow
And everything you built that’s all for show
goes up in flames
In 24 frames
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