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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 3:19 pm    Post subject:

The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:14 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Yup.

The picture of that kid's smug smile brought back memories I haven't had since elementary school. (bleep) that (bleep).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:35 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


And now this . . . House Intelligence Committee Looking Into Tweet About Viral MAGA Hat Teen Video

The Twitter account that promoted a video of Covington Catholic High School Students surrounding a Native American man has since been suspended.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:37 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:48 pm    Post subject:

Some good news:

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Per source, a bunch of progressives just added to House Oversight Committee: @aoc, @RashidaTlaib, @AyannaPressley and @RoKhanna


Nancy Pelosi is making sure the incoming younger members will get important experience. Bonus points for diversity in gender/race/religion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Guthrie was getting slammed on Twitter for this.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:52 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Clearly a lot of people do and for a variety of reasons. An important one being the way this has been handled by the media in regards to spinning the MAGATs as the victims and how and why that actually worked on some people. It's indicative of the climate right now and it matters.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:57 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Guthrie was getting slammed on Twitter for this.


Rightly so. Some of the comments are great.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:02 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Clearly a lot of people do and for a variety of reasons. An important one being the way this has been handled by the media in regards to spinning the MAGATs as the victims and how and why that actually worked on some people. It's indicative of the climate right now and it matters.


Would you say this incident has received too little coverage, too much, or the appropriate amount. I'd say it has received a gargantuan more amount than it warrants.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:33 pm    Post subject:

ocho wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Clearly a lot of people do and for a variety of reasons. An important one being the way this has been handled by the media in regards to spinning the MAGATs as the victims and how and why that actually worked on some people. It's indicative of the climate right now and it matters.


Would you say this incident has received too little coverage, too much, or the appropriate amount. I'd say it has received a gargantuan more amount than it warrants.


As important as it is to denounce these little bastards for the treasonous white collar criminals they'll probably turn out to be, the rush to destroy them as individuals and to ruin the futures that their (bleep) bird parents have already bought and paid for, and the eagerness to overblow their trashy circlejerk out to be some reprehensible criminal act, was fascinating, as was the uncanny swiftness at which right wingers got to spinning a denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever on their behalf. And now it looks as though the whole incident, as consumed online, beginning with the tweet that dumped it into our daily conversations, may have been a planned exercise in exploiting our existing divisions. It even confused the hell out of some of our more reputable media outlets:

slate
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/nick-sandmann-nathan-phillips-maga-video.html

the atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:36 pm    Post subject:

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Would you say this incident has received too little coverage, too much, or the appropriate amount. I'd say it has received a gargantuan more amount than it warrants.


I don't disagree with you in one sense. But once the media and people went down the asinine rabbit hole off "WhatAboutism" and buying into the PR firm's "These are just good boys trying to do the right thing" victim crap, it was inevitable that this one was going to stick around for awhile.

If the media et al hadn't tried to foolishly do the "hey, you got it all wrong" thing, this would have been a non-story by breakfast on Monday morning. But now that the can of worms keeps getting reopened by stunts like Guthrie's, it has opened a whole new line of discussion on it. I think it's important that be noted, because it indicates how big the problem is at the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:42 pm    Post subject:

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As important as it is to denounce these little bastards for the treasonous white collar criminals they'll probably turn out to be, the rush to destroy them as individuals and to ruin the futures that their (bleep) bird parents have already bought and paid for, and the eagerness to overblow their trashy circlejerk out to be some reprehensible criminal act, was fascinating, as was the uncanny swiftness at which right wingers got to spinning a denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever on their behalf.

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And now it looks as though the whole incident, as consumed online, beginning with the tweet that dumped it into our daily conversations, may have been a planned exercise in division. It even confused the hell out of some of our more reputable media outlets:

slate
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/nick-sandmann-nathan-phillips-maga-video.html

the atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/


And some people here apparently. Which gets to the reason I think this relative non-story is now an important one. The fact that people even for one second watched these vile maggots and then thought "Yeah, well those brown people were out of line as well" somehow transformed the MAGATs into poor misunderstood school kids on a field trip of kindness is an issue. The fact that it continues as more video evidence proves these kids were every bit the vermin that we all though they were to begin with just drives that home even more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject:

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And now it looks as though the whole incident, as consumed online, beginning with the tweet that dumped it into our daily conversations, may have been a planned exercise in exploiting our existing divisions.


I think it's telling that this is a top story in the Twitter/Cable News world and barely a blip in the newspaper world.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:47 pm    Post subject:

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As important as it is to denounce these little bastards for the treasonous white collar criminals they'll probably turn out to be, the rush to destroy them as individuals and to ruin the futures that their (bleep) bird parents have already bought and paid for, and the eagerness to overblow their trashy circlejerk out to be some reprehensible criminal act, was fascinating, as was the uncanny swiftness at which right wingers got to spinning a denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever on their behalf.


I have NO qualms with that. My wife and I have worked very hard to help our kids to be kind, thoughtful and respectful people. To see that some of their peers have been raised to be the opposite is infuriating. We can't save these POS MAGATs, but we can make an example of them. And we should.

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And now it looks as though the whole incident, as consumed online, beginning with the tweet that dumped it into our daily conversations, may have been a planned exercise in division. It even confused the hell out of some of our more reputable media outlets:

slate
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/nick-sandmann-nathan-phillips-maga-video.html

the atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/


And some people here apparently. Which gets to the reason I think this relative non-story is now an important one. The fact that people even for one second watched these vile maggots and then thought "Yeah, well those brown people were out of line as well" somehow transformed the MAGATs into poor misunderstood school kids on a field trip of kindness is an issue. The fact that it continues as more video evidence proves these kids were every bit the vermin that we all though they were to begin with just drives that home even more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:50 pm    Post subject:

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I think it's telling that this is a top story in the Twitter/Cable News world and barely a blip in the newspaper world.


And Network news and just about everywhere else. It's not just a social media issue by any stretch. Which in an unfortunate time where precious few read the newspapers anymore, is very significant.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:53 pm    Post subject:

This is a troubling read.

Bob Woodward’s new book reveals a ‘nervous breakdown’ of Trump’s presidency

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ocho wrote:
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ocho wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
The MAGA kid is going to be on the Today show tomorrow (Savannah Guthrie tweeted out a picture of her and him doing the interview). And right-wing talking head Laura Ingrahm tweeted that Trump invited him to the White House.

If these had been black kids/latino kids/Muslim kids harassing a Native American, acting out, doing rape chants and sexually taunting white girls, they would been thrown in jail by now.

Instead this MAGA brat gets TV interviews, PR firms and a visit to the White House.

This is what white privilege, patriarchy and toxic masculinity look like.

But the Gillette commercial was a bridge too far.


Interviewing this kid is stupid, as is the attention this incident has received in general. Who cares about this?


Clearly a lot of people do and for a variety of reasons. An important one being the way this has been handled by the media in regards to spinning the MAGATs as the victims and how and why that actually worked on some people. It's indicative of the climate right now and it matters.


Would you say this incident has received too little coverage, too much, or the appropriate amount. I'd say it has received a gargantuan more amount than it warrants.


As important as it is to denounce these little bastards for the treasonous white collar criminals they'll probably turn out to be, the rush to destroy them as individuals and to ruin the futures that their (bleep) bird parents have already bought and paid for, and the eagerness to overblow their trashy circlejerk out to be some reprehensible criminal act, was fascinating, as was the uncanny swiftness at which right wingers got to spinning a denial of any wrongdoing whatsoever on their behalf. And now it looks as though the whole incident, as consumed online, beginning with the tweet that dumped it into our daily conversations, may have been a planned exercise in exploiting our existing divisions. It even confused the hell out of some of our more reputable media outlets:

slate
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/nick-sandmann-nathan-phillips-maga-video.html

the atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/julie-irwin-zimmerman-i-failed-covington-catholic-test/580897/

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as unkind of me as it seems
I don't trust MAGA hat wearing families
They sold their souls supporting Trump
and TWO YEARS in they still support him
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Twitter Suspends Account That Published Viral Video of Native American And Covington MAGA Teen
By Scott McDonald On 1/22/19 at 2:40 AM


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The Twitter account that launched a viral video of a high school Catholic student wearing a pro-Trump cap confronting a drum-beating Native American got suspended on Monday.

CNN Business first reported that, after so many media requests regarding the account, Twitter suspended the account of @2020fight, which posted the original video with this inscription.

"This MAGA loser gleefully bothering a Native American protester at the Indigenous Peoples March," @2020fight stated.

The post spread on Twitter and Instagram quickly, garnering 2.5 million views and a few thousand retweets within a couple of days.
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I have NO qualms with that. My wife and I have worked very hard to help our kids to be kind, thoughtful and respectful people. To see that some of their peers have been raised to be the opposite is infuriating. We can't save these POS MAGATs, but we can make an example of them. And we should.


I disagree that they deserve to be crushed, but you have good reasons.
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Harris is in

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/21/politics/kamala-harris-president-2020/index.html

I'm with her or Beto


An ardent cop sympathizer who fought hard to make it easier for the government to take peoples property without due process. Yeah, the Bernie Bros are going to feast on her.


They can feast on her, and they can feast on a bag of (bleep) for all I care. Hopefully it's more of the latter so we can have a good president this time.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:23 pm    Post subject:

Bernie Bros are just MAGAts turned inside out. A polished politician should be able to pick out the parts of their agenda that are useful and deconstruct all the bs talking points that sound more like Russian bot-speak for the left.

I lean left, but Bernie and his crowd are foolish and I don't trust them. I always get the impression that they're planted as a distraction...like props.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 6:34 pm    Post subject:

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I have NO qualms with that. My wife and I have worked very hard to help our kids to be kind, thoughtful and respectful people. To see that some of their peers have been raised to be the opposite is infuriating. We can't save these POS MAGATs, but we can make an example of them. And we should.


I disagree that they deserve to be crushed, but you have good reasons.


I think it's the parents that need to be crushed. These youngsters are a product of their environment. Like racism, it's not inbred it's learned.
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Guthrie was getting slammed on Twitter for this.


Rightly so. Some of the comments are great.


This is one of my favorites: "He’s leaving the hat at home during his innocence tour, huh?"

That's the power of a great PR firm, telling the vermin to not look like vermin.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:28 pm    Post subject:

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I have NO qualms with that. My wife and I have worked very hard to help our kids to be kind, thoughtful and respectful people. To see that some of their peers have been raised to be the opposite is infuriating. We can't save these POS MAGATs, but we can make an example of them. And we should.


I disagree that they deserve to be crushed, but you have good reasons.


I just see it like this. These kids' parents and community have completely failed them. The sad consequence of that is that these kids have deep and significant societal failings of their own. Since the significant adults in their lives can't show them the proper way to conduct themselves, it sadly falls upon society to provide them with the lessons they need. Those lessons are not going to be taught by justifying a dynamic where they are told by the media that their behavior was OK because there were others who demonstrated poor behavior of their own, especially when they showed up attire that is inherently antagonistic.

Here's the other aspect that is highly problematic. A religious, all boy school sanctioned a field trip to an event that opposes women's rights. The chaperones were completely fine with the antagonistic attire, and I would guess encouraged it. This school is a non-profit and thus suffers no tax implications for it's donations and endowment. Yet they are clearly engaging in activities that should void their non-profit status.

To me this incident illustrates some pressing issues that are coming to a head right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:35 pm    Post subject:

I haven't watched the Today Show in quite some time. Think I'll tune in to see what she has to say. The tweets are sweet.

Savannah Guthrie, NBC slammed for upcoming interview with Covington Catholic student: '#RacismEnabler'

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 8:36 pm    Post subject:

Huey Lewis & The News wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:


I have NO qualms with that. My wife and I have worked very hard to help our kids to be kind, thoughtful and respectful people. To see that some of their peers have been raised to be the opposite is infuriating. We can't save these POS MAGATs, but we can make an example of them. And we should.


I disagree that they deserve to be crushed, but you have good reasons.


Of course they deserve it. They are mean, hateful, smug, entitled, aggressive perps. And letting them off the hook just teaches them to do it more. It’s odd you can find the black Israelites vile and worthy of recrimination, but not these kids.
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