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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:13 pm    Post subject:

I find it difficult to believe Donald really believes all the things he says e.g.

Trump Says “the People Would Revolt” if He Were Impeached

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“It’s hard to impeach somebody who hasn’t done anything wrong and who’s created the greatest economy in the history of our country,” Trump told Reuters in an interview Tuesday. He added: “I’m not concerned, no. I think that the people would revolt if that happened.”

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 12:59 pm    Post subject:

This ain’t going to be good for Don Jon either: https://variety.com/2018/politics/news/national-enquirer-karen-mcdougal-payments-1203088238/
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2018 1:13 pm    Post subject:

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The U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York said it had reached a “non-prosecution agreement” with AMI, and that as part of it, “AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election. AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”


They are clearly doing a "Drip, Drip, Drip" of information to clearly show Trump just how boxed in he is, and each drip is seismically more firm than the prior in this regard. 1st the "Possibility" of campaign finance violations with the Cohen admission. Now a for certain campaign finance violation with the way this deal was sealed. The next logical drip is a "possible" obstruction of Justice charge, followed be a "for certain" obstruction of Justice charge - if things needed to get that far. They're giving Trump every opportunity to strike a deal and save a little face on his way out the door, or stand firm, keep acting like he's still teflon, and risk facing the loudly playing music.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 am    Post subject:

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The U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York said it had reached a “non-prosecution agreement” with AMI, and that as part of it, “AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election. AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”


They are clearly doing a "Drip, Drip, Drip" of information to clearly show Trump just how boxed in he is, and each drip is seismically more firm than the prior in this regard. 1st the "Possibility" of campaign finance violations with the Cohen admission. Now a for certain campaign finance violation with the way this deal was sealed. The next logical drip is a "possible" obstruction of Justice charge, followed be a "for certain" obstruction of Justice charge - if things needed to get that far. They're giving Trump every opportunity to strike a deal and save a little face on his way out the door, or stand firm, keep acting like he's still teflon, and risk facing the loudly playing music.


As time has gone on, my desire to see Trump impeached has been overshadowed by my desire to see him incarcerated. 2018 has given me hope we will vote Trump out in 2020.
I don't want any pardons for him or his family. I want to see the assets seized and their asses in prison cells.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject:

THE ONION!... Nope.. Official DHS website
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Walls Work
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December 12, 2018

WE ARE BUILDING THE FIRST NEW BORDER WALL IN A DECADE.

DHS is committed to building wall and building wall quickly. We are not replacing short, outdated and ineffective wall with similar wall. Instead, under this President we are building a wall that is 30-feet high.

FACT: Prior to President Trump taking office, we have never built wall that high.

Once funding was provided, DHS began construction of border wall exceptionally quickly, in some locations in as little as nine months from funding to building– a process that commonly takes two years or more in other parts of Government. By the end of FY 2019, DHS expects to have construction completed or underway for more than 120 miles in the areas it’s most needed by the U.S. Border Patrol. The pace of construction has picked up as initial limiting factors like land acquisition and funding have been addressed.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:30 am    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
Aussiesuede wrote:
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The U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York said it had reached a “non-prosecution agreement” with AMI, and that as part of it, “AMI admitted that it made the $150,000 payment in concert with a candidate’s presidential campaign, and in order to ensure that the woman did not publicize damaging allegations about the candidate before the 2016 presidential election. AMI further admitted that its principal purpose in making the payment was to suppress the woman’s story so as to prevent it from influencing the election.”


They are clearly doing a "Drip, Drip, Drip" of information to clearly show Trump just how boxed in he is, and each drip is seismically more firm than the prior in this regard. 1st the "Possibility" of campaign finance violations with the Cohen admission. Now a for certain campaign finance violation with the way this deal was sealed. The next logical drip is a "possible" obstruction of Justice charge, followed be a "for certain" obstruction of Justice charge - if things needed to get that far. They're giving Trump every opportunity to strike a deal and save a little face on his way out the door, or stand firm, keep acting like he's still teflon, and risk facing the loudly playing music.


As time has gone on, my desire to see Trump impeached has been overshadowed by my desire to see him incarcerated. 2018 has given me hope we will vote Trump out in 2020.
I don't want any pardons for him or his family. I want to see the assets seized and their asses in prison cells.


When you think of the value of their influence on the type of Humanity the world needs most.... they should be breaking rocks in Alabama or somewhere

The corruption they have Inspired... and Forced into our government and onto our lands/air/water.. et al.. I used to be able to look away but I fear it is going to get Much worse
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:41 am    Post subject:

ContagiousInspiration wrote:
THE ONION!... Nope.. Official DHS website
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Walls Work
Release Date:
December 12, 2018

WE ARE BUILDING THE FIRST NEW BORDER WALL IN A DECADE.

DHS is committed to building wall and building wall quickly. We are not replacing short, outdated and ineffective wall with similar wall. Instead, under this President we are building a wall that is 30-feet high.

FACT: Prior to President Trump taking office, we have never built wall that high.

Once funding was provided, DHS began construction of border wall exceptionally quickly, in some locations in as little as nine months from funding to building– a process that commonly takes two years or more in other parts of Government. By the end of FY 2019, DHS expects to have construction completed or underway for more than 120 miles in the areas it’s most needed by the U.S. Border Patrol. The pace of construction has picked up as initial limiting factors like land acquisition and funding have been addressed.


In similar news, the US Military is about to post on its website that there is an overwhelming need to support their work by buying $5 billion worth of muskets.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:00 am    Post subject:

If you need some interesting listening while you're commuting, give the "Bag Man" podcast a shot. It's Rachel Maddow's look at how Spiro Agnew was taken down on corruption charges during the middle of the Watergate scandal. There are many parallels to what is happening now in terms of the way Agnew demonized the prosecutors and the press.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:08 pm    Post subject:

Trump probably could have come clean about his past affairs, since white Evangelical voters would probably have voted for him regardless.

He probably thought these voters had an actual moral compass and that he would have to hide his indiscretions, when in reality, they probably already believed he had these affairs, lied about them and paid them off, and still voted for him in the 80%+ range.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:30 pm    Post subject:

My girlfriend's younger brother put me up on some scary stuff the other day.
The youtuber Pewdiepie has 75 million subscribers (and growing) and is embracing fascism, racism, and sexism. Nearly half of his views come from people between the age of 18-24. And around a quarter of his views come from people under 18.
People he follows on twitter: Notch, Ben Shapiro, Elon Musk, Ethan Klein, Logan Paul, Boogie1488, Ian Miles Cheong, Count Dankula, Jordan Peterson, Steven Crowder(vomited while typing that out), Laci Green, Palmer Luckey, Lauren Southern, Bunty King, Stefan Molyneux, Paul Joseph Watson, Butch Hartman, Dave Rubin, KEEMSTAR, Christina Hoff Sommers, and Jontron.

Normally I don't care about youtube "stars". But this is really bothering me, since he has such a large reach. His community is a mixture of "redpillers" (who he panders his content to:
) and children. Wouldn't be surprised if he's creating millions of future racists, sexists, and fascists (or at least sympathizers) with his child and barely adult audience.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:42 pm    Post subject:

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“We recognize killing journalists is absolutely evil and despicable, but to completely realign our interests in the Middle East as a result of this, when for instance the Russians kill journalists...Turkey imprisons journalists?” Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) said. “It’s not a sinless world out there.”


More "what aboutism" from Republicans. Hey, let's look the other way on murder because other people murder.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:33 pm    Post subject:

Trump was in the room during hush money discussions with tabloid publisher

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A source confirmed to NBC News that Trump was the "other member of the campaign" present when Michael Cohen and David Pecker agreed to silence women.


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Donald Trump was the third person in the room in August 2015 when his lawyer Michael Cohen and National Enquirer publisher David Pecker discussed ways Pecker could help counter negative stories about Trump's relationships with women, NBC News has confirmed.

As part of a nonprosecution agreement disclosed Wednesday by federal prosecutors, American Media Inc., the Enquirer's parent company, admitted that "Pecker offered to help deal with negative stories about that presidential candidate's relationships with women by, among other things, assisting the campaign in identifying such stories so they could be purchased and their publication avoided."

The "statement of admitted facts" says that AMI admitted making a $150,000 payment "in concert with the campaign," and says that Pecker, Cohen and "at least one other member of the campaign" were in the meeting. According to a person familiar with the matter, the "other member" was Trump.

David Pecker attends an event in Paris in 2012.David Pecker attends an event in Paris in 2012.Francois Durand / Getty Images
Trump was first identified as attending the meeting by The Wall Street Journal.


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"But if Trump is now in the room, as early as August of 2015 and in combination with the recording where Trump clearly knows what Cohen is talking about with regarding to David Pecker, you now squarely place Trump in the middle of a conspiracy to commit campaign finance fraud."
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:42 pm    Post subject:

Not the Onion:

Trump Moves to Deport Vietnam War Refugees

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The Trump administration is resuming its efforts to deport certain protected Vietnamese immigrants who have lived in the United States for decades—many of them having fled the country during the Vietnam War.

This is the latest move in the president’s long record of prioritizing harsh immigration and asylum restrictions, and one that’s sure to raise eyebrows—the White House had hesitantly backed off the plan in August before reversing course. In essence, the administration has now decided that Vietnamese immigrants who arrived in the country before the establishment of diplomatic ties between the United States and Vietnam are subject to standard immigration law—meaning they are all eligible for deportation.

The new stance mirrors White House efforts to clamp down on immigration writ large, a frequent complaint of the president’s on the campaign trail and one he links to a litany of ills in the United States.


This is what evil looks like.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:50 pm    Post subject:

Senate Votes To End U.S. Support For War In Yemen, Rebuking Trump And Saudi Arabia

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The Senate voted along bipartisan lines Thursday to end U.S. military support for Saudi Arabia's war in Yemen. The 56-41 vote marks the first time the Senate utilized powers granted under the 1973 War Powers Act, which gives Congress the power to demand an end to military actions.

While the House likely won't vote on the measure, the bipartisan vote is a major rebuke to Saudi Arabia, long a key U.S. ally.


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Immediately afterward, the Senate unanimously approved a second resolution condemning the killing of Washington Post writer Jamal Khashoggi, and pinning blame for the dissident's death on Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

The effort to stop American involvement in Yemen is still a long way from a done deal. The House would have to pass the resolution by years' end and President Trump would have to sign it — two steps that likely will not happen.


They'll probably have to vote again after the House changes in January. But it's a start.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:56 pm    Post subject:

Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:05 pm    Post subject:

Grain of salt (or grain of something):

Former Apprentice Staffer Claims Trump Was ‘Speed Freak,’ Invited Teen Beauty Queens to His Suite

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A former staffer on The Apprentice and current stand-up comic named Noel Casler claims that Donald Trump was a “speed freak” who snorted crushed-up Adderall, and also says that Trump invited teen beauty pageant contestants up to his suite.


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Casler then claimed that Trump is a “speed freak,” and that Trump “crushes up his Adderall and he sniffs it because he can’t read, so he gets really nervous when he has to read the cue cards.”
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:09 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject:

ChefLinda wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.


But..But..But, He didn't know it was against the law. Michael should have told him it was illegal. It's Michael's fault, not his. Idiot 101
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:14 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.


But..But..But, He didn't know it was against the law. Michael should have told him it was illegal. It's Michael's fault, not his.


Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Especially when the evidence clearly shows you knew you were breaking it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:16 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.


But..But..But, He didn't know it was against the law. Michael should have told him it was illegal. It's Michael's fault, not his.


Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Especially when the evidence clearly shows you knew you were breaking it.
As I said idiot 101
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: !

Just remember that Jared was the one who told him it was a good idea to fire Comey -- which is what set off the Mueller investigation. Jared is also smack dab in the middle the the Saudi/Khashoggi murder/cover-up. But yes! Hire Jared! Great idea! What could go wrong?

Trump Considering Son-In-Law Jared Kushner For Next Chief Of Staff

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Having run through his first choices for his chief of staff vacancy without any luck, President Donald Trump is considering his own son-in-law for the job.

Jared Kushner, the husband of Trump’s daughter Ivanka and already an official White House adviser, met with Trump Wednesday about the job, a top Republican close to the White House told HuffPost. He and two others close to Trump or the White House who confirmed Kushner’s interest in the position did so on condition of anonymity to discuss the president’s staffing considerations freely.

Kushner has been pushing his own candidacy with Trump, citing his work on a criminal justice reform package and a claimed ability to work with Democrats, one person said. “I don’t know why he thinks that, when the Democrats are mainly going to be coming after Trump,” the source said.
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jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

LINK


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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.


But..But..But, He didn't know it was against the law. Michael should have told him it was illegal. It's Michael's fault, not his.


Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Especially when the evidence clearly shows you knew you were breaking it.
As I said idiot 101


Doesn't matter what Trump or his supporters think.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:26 pm    Post subject:

::shark music from Jaws::

WSJ: Trump Inauguration Spending Under Criminal Investigation by Federal Prosecutors

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Federal prosecutors in Manhattan are investigating whether President Trump’s 2017 inaugural committee misspent some of the record $107 million it raised from donations, people familiar with the matter said.

The criminal probe by the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, which is in its early stages, also is examining whether some of the committee’s top donors gave money in exchange for access to the incoming Trump administration, policy concessions or to influence official administration positions, some of the people said.

Giving money in exchange for political favors could run afoul of federal corruption laws. Diverting funds from the organization, which was registered as a nonprofit, could also violate federal law.


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So Donald Trump's private business, campaign, transition, inaugural committee, and White House are all under criminal investigation. Very legal and very cool.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:27 pm    Post subject:

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Doesn't matter what Trump or his supporters think.


Playing my tune now, are we?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:57 pm    Post subject:

DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
ChefLinda wrote:
jodeke wrote:
Is this a case of plausible deniability? It won't stray me but it most likely will his supporters.

Trump says he never told former lawyer Michael Cohen to break the law

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The President did not dispute directing Cohen to make payments to women who accused him of having an affair in order to keep them quiet, but said he did not direct Cohen to break the law while doing so.
"I never directed Michael Cohen to break the law. He was a lawyer and he is supposed to know the law," Trump tweeted.
"It is called 'advice of counsel,' and a lawyer has great liability if a mistake is made," he added.


1) There is already a Cohen tape of him contradicting this claim.
2) The newer story placing him in the room with Cohen and National Enquirer supersedes this story and blows his crap lie out of the water.
3) The prosecutors and judges have the goods so it doesn't matter what lies he tells on twitter.
4) After the fact, the Trump Organization created a fraudulent account to repay the money to Cohen in installments and label it "consulting fees." This is fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. That's on top of the illegal campaign donation.


But..But..But, He didn't know it was against the law. Michael should have told him it was illegal. It's Michael's fault, not his.


Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. Especially when the evidence clearly shows you knew you were breaking it.
As I said idiot 101


Doesn't matter what Trump or his supporters think.


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