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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:28 am    Post subject:

MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.
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I feel like the Laker FO put Zu in a good situation. Now he knows he'll get to play and show his stuff for a new contract and he doesn't even have to change residences. Same thing with not holding Julius hostage as an RFA. I know they're not running a charity, but still I think there's something to be said for respecting players' careers and building goodwill.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject:

I don't miss DLO at all, dude was a punk. I'm glad he's doing well, but I'm also glad he isn't a Laker anymore.

Zubac will be a free agent this summer and i don't think we were going to re-sign him anyway. Hopefully Muscala can provide shooting because we need it.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:52 am    Post subject:

I hate the fact that he's gone and miss him already (never thought I would've said that three months ago), but this thread should be moved to the General NBA section like all of the previous, official player threads of former Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:58 am    Post subject:

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MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


DLO has some nice skills on the court but recording your teammate behind his back got him traded. Who knows if we get LeBron if he's still here. Noone wants to be a teammate of a player you can't trust
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adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.
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AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:20 am    Post subject:

adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.


It is quite objective to say Lonzo was a better defender last year than Russel is this year.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:32 am    Post subject:

Bol wrote:
I feel like the Laker FO put Zu in a good situation. Now he knows he'll get to play and show his stuff for a new contract and he doesn't even have to change residences. Same thing with not holding Julius hostage as an RFA. I know they're not running a charity, but still I think there's something to be said for respecting players' careers and building goodwill.


Great post!
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shortodom wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


DLO has some nice skills on the court but recording your teammate behind his back got him traded. Who knows if we get LeBron if he's still here. Noone wants to be a teammate of a player you can't trust


He didn’t record Young behind his back, Nick was cool with him doing it. Facts sometimes matter.
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BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.


It is quite objective to say Lonzo was a better defender last year than Russel is this year.


https://twitter.com/lakersreporter/status/1094369916654899207?s=21

Indeed. That ship has sailed a long time ago and you still have a few cats willing to die on that hill. Perplexing to say the least.
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BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.


It is quite objective to say Lonzo was a better defender last year than Russel is this year.


When I say Ball has potential to be better than all our young drafted players I meant overall. He will never be the scorer DLO is or BI will become, but hopefully one day his game will be similar to Lebron and Magic. Making the right basketball plays, be disruptive on defense, control the tempo of the game. He will never be Lebron or Magic, but he should be comparable to Ben Simmons when it’s all said and done, who is a trasendent talent himself.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:41 am    Post subject:

Zubac in his first game gave the Clippers something they have been lacking, a rim protector. Good move by Frank.
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jonnybravo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.


It is quite objective to say Lonzo was a better defender last year than Russel is this year.


https://twitter.com/lakersreporter/status/1094369916654899207?s=21

Indeed. That ship has sailed a long time ago and you still have a few cats willing to die on that hill. Perplexing to say the least.


The Zo hate is too real with some
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venturalakersfan wrote:
Zubac in his first game gave the Clippers something they have been lacking, a rim protector. Good move by Frank.


I agree. I’ll miss Zu. Thanks for recognizing Frank when people automatically give credit to West.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:46 am    Post subject:

Zo is the best defensive and rebounding PG in the game. Its unfair to even compare Zo to Dlo as Zo is LIGHTYEARS better defensively.
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BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
BigGameHames wrote:
adkindo wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


based on what? DLo is 22 years old, and Ball's offensive repertoire is not even in the same stratosphere as Russell's. Russell is about 1.5 years older than Ball, and I currently do not see a world where Ball is as good as Russell is currently by the end of next season. I do not think it is a stretch to say Russell may be more of an offensive weapon today that Ball will be in his career.

Russels in his 4th year. Lonzo was a better defender as a rookie than DLO is now. Lonzos a better overall player in his second year than DLO was in his final year as a Laker.


it would be a subjective valuation of defense, but he clearly is not the offensive player DLo was his last year with the Lakers.


It is quite objective to say Lonzo was a better defender last year than Russel is this year.


you misunderstood my statement, I am saying the value of being a superior offensive player compared to being a superior defensive player is subjective in ones evaluation of an "overall" player.
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Zo is the best defensive and rebounding PG in the game. Its unfair to even compare Zo to Dlo as Zo is LIGHTYEARS better defensively.


this is a false statement....he is not as good of a rebounder as Westbrook or Simmons.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:09 pm    Post subject:

shortodom wrote:
AFireInside619 wrote:
MJST DLO isn’t 21 like Ball or Ingram. He turns 23 in a few days. Ingram will probably be just as good as DLO soon. Ball should be better than all of them. But I do wish DLO was still here, so that’s not the issue. I’m just saying he has a couple years head start on our dudes.


DLO has some nice skills on the court but recording your teammate behind his back got him traded. Who knows if we get LeBron if he's still here. Noone wants to be a teammate of a player you can't trust


Lebron, that wanted all his teammates traded? Smh
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:15 pm    Post subject:

DLo had BScott so there is that.

It would have been a sweet backcourt. DLO's has adequate defense now and Ball was improving his offense. What a damn shame.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 1:54 pm    Post subject:

Zubac would have minimized Embiid's effectiveness at the rim today.
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Zubac would have minimized Embiid's effectiveness at the rim today.


I doubt that, honestly. But still nice to have a 3rd body we can throw at him.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2019 2:18 pm    Post subject:

Zubac would have been the first body. Chandler would have been the 3rd.
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Zubac would have minimized Embiid's effectiveness at the rim today.


Like the other times Embiid player us. 🙄
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