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Lakesh0wtime
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Lol he makes 1 or 2 of his wide open threes and he’s close to 20 points and people would say he played Well.
Just a bad shooting night.
Was able to shake it off in the 3rd.
Thought he should’ve played more in the 4th |
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tox
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| matrixskillz wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Kuzma definitely should start over Ingram |
So we can get the same amount of points but 10x less defense? Lol |
So we get a player who actually believes in his abilities and can play off the ball without needing plays run for him. He’s also a much better 3 pt shooter. |
Ingram: 28 Min., 16 PTS (7-15 FG, 0-4 3PT, 2-4 FT) 4 RBD, 1 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TO
Kuzma: 29 Min., 15 PTS (5-15 PG, 1-7 3PT, 4-5 FT), 5 RBD, 0 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TO |
Give Kuzma the looks Ingram got and he’ll knock them down at a much better rate. He’s a better scorer than Ingram and knows how to play off ball effectively. |
There's probably some truth to that but the difference in their defense is way bigger.
Anyway it doesn't matter since Kuzma is a 5 anyway  |
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matrixskillz
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| tox wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Kuzma definitely should start over Ingram |
So we can get the same amount of points but 10x less defense? Lol |
So we get a player who actually believes in his abilities and can play off the ball without needing plays run for him. He’s also a much better 3 pt shooter. |
Ingram: 28 Min., 16 PTS (7-15 FG, 0-4 3PT, 2-4 FT) 4 RBD, 1 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TO
Kuzma: 29 Min., 15 PTS (5-15 PG, 1-7 3PT, 4-5 FT), 5 RBD, 0 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TO |
Give Kuzma the looks Ingram got and he’ll knock them down at a much better rate. He’s a better scorer than Ingram and knows how to play off ball effectively. |
There's probably some truth to that but the difference in their defense is way bigger.
Anyway it doesn't matter since Kuzma is a 5 anyway |
Kuzma should never play the 5 and Ingram shouldn’t play the 4. They’re both out of position.
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Jesusdelonla
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| tox wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Kuzma definitely should start over Ingram |
So we can get the same amount of points but 10x less defense? Lol |
So we get a player who actually believes in his abilities and can play off the ball without needing plays run for him. He’s also a much better 3 pt shooter. |
Ingram: 28 Min., 16 PTS (7-15 FG, 0-4 3PT, 2-4 FT) 4 RBD, 1 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TO
Kuzma: 29 Min., 15 PTS (5-15 PG, 1-7 3PT, 4-5 FT), 5 RBD, 0 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TO |
Give Kuzma the looks Ingram got and he’ll knock them down at a much better rate. He’s a better scorer than Ingram and knows how to play off ball effectively. |
There's probably some truth to that but the difference in their defense is way bigger.
Anyway it doesn't matter since Kuzma is a 5 anyway |
the difference you see is because he is trying to guard much bigger 5's. would be a totally different story if he guarded his own position. |
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SocalDevin
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Ingram is barely strong enough to play 3, he's not a 4. Kuz is definitely more suited for 4 than Ingram. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Jesusdelonla wrote: | | tox wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | LakerSanity wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | matrixskillz wrote: | | Kuzma definitely should start over Ingram |
So we can get the same amount of points but 10x less defense? Lol |
So we get a player who actually believes in his abilities and can play off the ball without needing plays run for him. He’s also a much better 3 pt shooter. |
Ingram: 28 Min., 16 PTS (7-15 FG, 0-4 3PT, 2-4 FT) 4 RBD, 1 AST, 2 STL, 2 BLK, 1 TO
Kuzma: 29 Min., 15 PTS (5-15 PG, 1-7 3PT, 4-5 FT), 5 RBD, 0 AST, 1 STL, 0 BLK, 1 TO |
Give Kuzma the looks Ingram got and he’ll knock them down at a much better rate. He’s a better scorer than Ingram and knows how to play off ball effectively. |
There's probably some truth to that but the difference in their defense is way bigger.
Anyway it doesn't matter since Kuzma is a 5 anyway |
the difference you see is because he is trying to guard much bigger 5's. would be a totally different story if he guarded his own position. |
Lol have you seen him guard wings and guards? He can’t move his feet against them either. He’s not a good defender.
Offensively yes he’s good. But that gap between and and BI as in regard to off ball offense is not as big as the gap in defense |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman.  |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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Pretty average game. He was probably our 3rd or 4th best player tonight. So he's not the first person I think about when talking about disappointing performances.
But he can play better than he did.
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Why is his shooting confidence so damn low? He took the open shots tonight but it didn't seem like he was shooting it with confidence.
Does anyone know if Magic hired that shooting coach he said he would? We desperately need a good one |
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| epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman. |
Blazers are good for having a bunch of no names but still end up winning a decent amount of games, POR fans should at least be happy that they have good regular season teams. |
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audioaxes
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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would like to see him cut down on those contested long jumpers. if thats the best you can get from the defense on that possession then get it back to Lebron.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman. |
Blazers are good for having a bunch of no names but still end up winning a decent amount of games, POR fans should at least be happy that they have good regular season teams. |
If you don't know Jake Layman, then I don't know what to say.
RE: BI, it's game 1 of a long season. He'll be fine. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:16 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman. |
Yup! The human torch haaha |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman. |
Blazers are good for having a bunch of no names but still end up winning a decent amount of games, POR fans should at least be happy that they have good regular season teams. |
If you don't know Jake Layman, then I don't know what to say.
RE: BI, it's game 1 of a long season. He'll be fine. |
No idea who he is, is he a solid player? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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| epak wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | epak wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | Did a good job guarding CJ tonight |
BI totally shut down Jake Layman. |
Blazers are good for having a bunch of no names but still end up winning a decent amount of games, POR fans should at least be happy that they have good regular season teams. |
If you don't know Jake Layman, then I don't know what to say.
RE: BI, it's game 1 of a long season. He'll be fine. |
He's no Pat Connaughton. I mean...Sauce Castillo.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Any theories as to his slow starts? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
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LKA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
I’ve noticed this too .. Really think not trading him for PG was a mistake
Hoping I’m wrong but idk |
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| LKA wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
I’ve noticed this too .. Really think not trading him for PG was a mistake
Hoping I’m wrong but idk |
Ultimately if he’s good next year and we sign someone this summer , that’s better than only being able to sign PG and having no capspace(or Kawhi saying he doesn’t want to be on a super-team, which is what his mouthpiece Cris Carter said)
So , BI=80% of PG + Kawhi , is better than only PG |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | LKA wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
I’ve noticed this too .. Really think not trading him for PG was a mistake
Hoping I’m wrong but idk |
Ultimately if he’s good next year and we sign someone this summer , that’s better than only being able to sign PG and having no capspace(or Kawhi saying he doesn’t want to be on a super-team, which is what his mouthpiece Cris Carter said)
So , BI=80% of PG + Kawhi , is better than only PG |
I guess that’s true. There might come a time where we have too many forwards tho (if we were to acquire Kawhi) |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
there is a reason why people compare him to another guy in KD who basically uses his skill to get off any shot, don’t think BI lacks any skill the guy is compared with a lot of skilled offensive players, not sure where the idea came from that he doesn’t use his talent to make shots.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | KeepItRealOrElse wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Any theories as to his slow starts? |
Not a guaranteed scorer... |
Ok. But why slow in first halves only? |
Opportunities open up for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to impose successfully at-will. Shots go in for him when they do - he’s not skilled enough to make shots consistently |
I always thought he had the skill and talent to get off any shot he wanted he wasn’t mentally engaged in this game at all, there is a reason why people compare him to another guy in KD who basically uses his skill to get off any shot. |
That’s always been a ridiculous comparison imo |
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