Joined: 17 Feb 2002 Posts: 14876 Location: Reseda, CA
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 11:31 am Post subject:
activeverb wrote:
focus wrote:
Yes, here you have a good memory. This was regarded as a Duncan failure in some part at the time with the young guys sort of not up to snuff then also.
I've seen it viewed both way.
Some people consider it a Duncan personal failure and like to mock him for only having a bronze.
Some consider Duncan a victim of a shoddy system that put together a bad team around him and didn't have practices.
You'll have no end of opinions on this -- some believe Duncan was exposed; some believe he hated the rules in place in 2004 (which were revised significantly for the next Olympics); some believe he himself played well, but was surrounded by a bad team of young players after other stars declined to take part; some feel he was the leader of the team and should take full blame for the disaster.
After the debacle, there was so much mea culpa-ing, and the whole system was changed so much, that it was conceded that things were bad from A to Z, so you'll never get uniform opinion on how much blame Duncan personally deserves.
Duncan couldn't carry. If Kobe was able to play with that team they would have won gold.
Yes, here you have a good memory. This was regarded as a Duncan failure in some part at the time with the young guys sort of not up to snuff then also.
I've seen it viewed both way.
Some people consider it a Duncan personal failure and like to mock him for only having a bronze.
Some consider Duncan a victim of a shoddy system that put together a bad team around him and didn't have practices.
You'll have no end of opinions on this -- some believe Duncan was exposed; some believe he hated the rules in place in 2004 (which were revised significantly for the next Olympics); some believe he himself played well, but was surrounded by a bad team of young players after other stars declined to take part; some feel he was the leader of the team and should take full blame for the disaster.
After the debacle, there was so much mea culpa-ing, and the whole system was changed so much, that it was conceded that things were bad from A to Z, so you'll never get uniform opinion on how much blame Duncan personally deserves.
Duncan couldn't carry. If Kobe was able to play with that team they would have won gold.
That team was missing several ballers. Kobe, shaq,Ray Allen,Garnett,Vince carter
Yes, here you have a good memory. This was regarded as a Duncan failure in some part at the time with the young guys sort of not up to snuff then also.
I've seen it viewed both way.
Some people consider it a Duncan personal failure and like to mock him for only having a bronze.
Some consider Duncan a victim of a shoddy system that put together a bad team around him and didn't have practices.
You'll have no end of opinions on this -- some believe Duncan was exposed; some believe he hated the rules in place in 2004 (which were revised significantly for the next Olympics); some believe he himself played well, but was surrounded by a bad team of young players after other stars declined to take part; some feel he was the leader of the team and should take full blame for the disaster.
After the debacle, there was so much mea culpa-ing, and the whole system was changed so much, that it was conceded that things were bad from A to Z, so you'll never get uniform opinion on how much blame Duncan personally deserves.
Duncan couldn't carry. If Kobe was able to play with that team they would have won gold.
No doubt about that. Kobe would have murdered somebody on the court before he lost to Greece lol
The Dream Team inspired a number of foreign superstars who have now become legends in their own right in their countries. In an ironic twist of fate, they are the ones who are now looking to take Team USA down in the Olympics.
lol that Spain team is in no position to really upset the US. Its a complete shell of its former self with Pau and Calderon well pat their prime and Marc and Ibaka not playing.
With that said the US should take every opponent very seriously in those single elimination game rounds.
lol that Spain team is in no position to really upset the US. Its a complete shell of its former self with Pau and Calderon well pat their prime and Marc and Ibaka not playing.
With that said the US should take every opponent very seriously in those single elimination game rounds.
It says a lot about the competition when Spain is listed as the #1 threat. None of those teams concern me even a little bit. I wonder how things will look in 4 years because a lot of the top players on those 5 teams are really old. Look at Argentina for example. France is #2 and Tony Parker has also been around forever just like Ginobili. The Gasol brothers are old.
You could take the best players from the rest of the world, put them on the same roster, and they still would be big underdogs to team USA even if they had a lot of practice time and games to help them get better.
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Joined: 27 May 2010 Posts: 49664 Location: LA to the Bay
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:10 pm Post subject:
audioaxes wrote:
lol that Spain team is in no position to really upset the US. Its a complete shell of its former self with Pau and Calderon well pat their prime and Marc and Ibaka not playing.
With that said the US should take every opponent very seriously in those single elimination game rounds.
Oh that's right Marc's out. Good lord... Well France, man up. There needs to be at least a couple of good games lol!
Looks like team France cut Evan Fournier, he of the huge contract extension _________________ "I got a hand that'll rock ya cradle, cream ya like cheese, spread ya on my bagel." - Shaq, 1992.
Relying on its defense throughout the night, the USA Men’s National Team rolled to a 106-57 rout of China at the Staples Center in Los Angeles.
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China had no answer inside for Jordan and DeMarcus Cousins, who combined for 24 points and 12 rebounds. Once Durant and Thompson got going, hitting four 3-pointers apiece on the night, China had little chance. The USA continued to find the open man and make the extra pass, finishing with 20 more assists than China while forcing 26 turnovers.
Looks like team France cut Evan Fournier, he of the huge contract extension
France reportedly will not add Evan Fournier to its roster for the Olympics, opting to keep roster continuity from its Olympic Qualifying Tournament win.
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This is not a statement against Fournier, but merely a coaching decision. France is one of the best teams in the Olympics and could be a medal favorite if they can escape Group A, which includes Team USA.
Adding Gobert makes a lot of sense to add some more frontcourt depth and an elite rim protector. These are all strategic roster moves. But it is certain France wanted to keep roster continuity from the team that won in a high-pressure tournament.
Team USA drubs China by 49 as pre-Olympic tour continues
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After opening their showcase tour by trouncing Argentina in Las Vegas on Friday night, the U.S. team posted another rout at a packed Staples Center. Krzyzewski is finding it difficult to disguise his early optimism, praising his team's work in their brief practice time together.
I feel like even the 76ers could have beaten China.
very easily. They didnt have even the basics down. Fumbling the ball, passes thrown away, dribbling the ball right into the defender, shots that looked like it didnt have a prayer of going in before the ball even left the shooter's hands.
Luckily the US can keep the game entertaining with a load of highlight worthy plays.
Joined: 14 Apr 2001 Posts: 144581 Location: The Gold Coast
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 12:11 pm Post subject:
pio2u wrote:
Team USA drubs China by 49 as pre-Olympic tour continues
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After opening their showcase tour by trouncing Argentina in Las Vegas on Friday night, the U.S. team posted another rout at a packed Staples Center. Krzyzewski is finding it difficult to disguise his early optimism, praising his team's work in their brief practice time together.
7 things we know about Team USA so far (and 1 thing we don't)
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Fact: Team USA is going to win Olympic gold in Rio. This team is too good, and the competition ... isn't. And after a handful of exhibition games and open practices, we have a pretty good idea of how Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and the rest of this squad will attack the opposition.
There is one question that remains a mystery, however -- and we might not have a solid answer until the Games begin.
7 things we know about Team USA so far (and 1 thing we don't)
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Fact: Team USA is going to win Olympic gold in Rio. This team is too good, and the competition ... isn't. And after a handful of exhibition games and open practices, we have a pretty good idea of how Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving and the rest of this squad will attack the opposition.
There is one question that remains a mystery, however -- and we might not have a solid answer until the Games begin.
The question is who will come in 2nd. I just don't see any international team out there giving much of a hard time for the US. As far as team building goes, they learned a lot of painful lessons from 2004. While there are teams that a bigger than the USA, this team is just too skilled, fast, and a terror on the defensive end. Yeah, I know its a poor measuring stick, but those consecutive 50 point ass kickings given to China was a message sent to the competition.
How Basketball In LA Helped Prepare Three US Olympians
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As cool as it is going through Team USA training next to some of the top athletes in the world, the three Southern California natives realize how much cooler it is to do it next to players they grew up playing with or against.
Despite lack of competition, USA finds value in exhibitions
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The games have been little more than glorified conditioning drills, a sentiment the favorites for the gold medal in Brazil do not deny even in their most diplomatic of moments. There is value in a new roster getting the chance to play together, compared to other countries that may be heading into a third or fourth major international tournament with the same core. And the coaching staff gets to road test different lineup combinations.
*USA vs. Venezuela 2016 live stream: Time, TV schedule and how to watch USMNT online
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Team USA will continue to get ready for the Rio Olympics by facing one of their Group A opponents in surprising Venezuela at the United Center in Chicago on Friday
The fourth of six exhibition games scheduled will be played on July 29 at 8 p.m. ET. It will be televised by NBA TV and will be available to stream on the USA Basketball Facebook page
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