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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:36 pm    Post subject:

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Bottom line, it doesn't matter what I want. I have no say in the matter.

It's what Magic and Pelinka want. And in the end, if they are not sold on Luke, it doesn't matter if they fire him today, tomorrow or at the end of the season.

That's my point. It makes no difference when they decide to fire him.

Not sure what's so hard to understand. If he's going to get fired, it's not important that he stays for the last 26 games.


If we make it to the playoffs. And make it out of the 1st round.
I think Magic, Rob, and Lebron will keep Luke on board.
Unless a better coach becomes available this offseason.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:38 pm    Post subject:

kikanga wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
Bottom line, it doesn't matter what I want. I have no say in the matter.

It's what Magic and Pelinka want. And in the end, if they are not sold on Luke, it doesn't matter if they fire him today, tomorrow or at the end of the season.

That's my point. It makes no difference when they decide to fire him.

Not sure what's so hard to understand. If he's going to get fired, it's not important that he stays for the last 26 games.


If we make it to the playoffs. And make it out of the 1st round.
I think Magic, Rob, and Lebron will keep Luke on board.
Unless a better coach becomes available this offseason.


Cool. Hope we make it to the playoffs and out of the 1st round then.

That probably means taking out Golden State in the 1st rd.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:39 pm    Post subject:

If Luke is fired, then the Lakers had better not consider Jeff Van Gundy. That bald headed idiot is the biggest Lakers-hater in the sports media, bar none.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject:

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cooleggs wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
cooleggs wrote:
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kikanga wrote:
I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.


But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?


Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat


Last I remember, no one on LG's ever had a say in the matter. Every single coach fired/hired was done so without any input from LG.



Last I remember - the grass almost is never greener on the other side. I'd also add - I think Magic and Rob can see them pitch forks and flames you holding up down in the LBC ---


ok.

But why are you mad at LG when no one at LG is making any decisions? Shouldn't you be directing your anger at the people that actually make the decisions?



Not mad LBCG - It's just funny how that's the first thing posters and fans go to! I've seen enough coaches to know that there aint no savior out there. There's only a few coaches that move the needle. The thing you imo you want to guard against is coaches that lose you games. I don't think LW does that to us. So why punt? If we make playoffs and Luke is horrible - he'll be gone. It's the same for players as it is for coaches - they'll usually cut/fire themselves.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:40 pm    Post subject:

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kikanga wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
Bottom line, it doesn't matter what I want. I have no say in the matter.

It's what Magic and Pelinka want. And in the end, if they are not sold on Luke, it doesn't matter if they fire him today, tomorrow or at the end of the season.

That's my point. It makes no difference when they decide to fire him.

Not sure what's so hard to understand. If he's going to get fired, it's not important that he stays for the last 26 games.


If we make it to the playoffs. And make it out of the 1st round.
I think Magic, Rob, and Lebron will keep Luke on board.
Unless a better coach becomes available this offseason.


Cool. Hope we make it to the playoffs and out of the 1st round then.

That probably means taking out Golden State in the 1st rd.


If we get that 7th seed. I can see us beating Denver. Only a 1/2 game separates 7th and 8th currently.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:44 pm    Post subject:

cooleggs wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
cooleggs wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
cooleggs wrote:
LongBeachPoly wrote:
kikanga wrote:
I don't expect people on LG to be as good as NBA GMs at selecting coaches. But the fact that nobody comes to mind shows, there aren't many good options.

There are accomplished European coaches. And looking at Lebron's history, that might not work.
There are accomplished college coaches. But most college coaches don't transition well to the NBA. Brad Stevens is the exception, not the rule.
There are re-treads. Ex-NBA coaches with past success. But most of those coaches are out of work because their past successes were overshadowed by greater, more recent failures.


But answer this question though, if Luke were to quit tomorrow to go coach at Arizona, would you panic?

Would Magic and Pelinka?


Same old LG - "OMG we suck" - fire the coach and get our next savior -- oh the new coach is not doing a good enough job (regardless of whatever circumstances) -- fire him and find our next savior -- rinse and repeat


Last I remember, no one on LG's ever had a say in the matter. Every single coach fired/hired was done so without any input from LG.



Last I remember - the grass almost is never greener on the other side. I'd also add - I think Magic and Rob can see them pitch forks and flames you holding up down in the LBC ---


ok.

But why are you mad at LG when no one at LG is making any decisions? Shouldn't you be directing your anger at the people that actually make the decisions?



Not mad LBCG - It's just funny how that's the first thing posters and fans go to! I've seen enough coaches to know that there aint no savior out there. There's only a few coaches that move the needle. The thing you imo you want to guard against is coaches that lose you games. I don't think LW does that to us. So why punt? If we make playoffs and Luke is horrible - he'll be gone. It's the same for players as it is for coaches - they'll usually cut/fire themselves.


Yeah, but if that's something that needs to be "guarded against" then that advice should be directed to the front office and not LG. Because all these coaching changes were made by the front office.

LG has no say in the matter believe it or not.

Your concerns would be better directed at emailing Magic Johnson himself or Rob Pelinka. They can probably help explain whether they're thinking about keeping or canning LW.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:50 pm    Post subject:

I'm confused - I thought you wanted LW fired? As for me, I don't because I don't see the point - so why would I email Magic. Anyways - your right - let's do something more productive and come up with a prop bet on when Ty Lue becomes our next coach -- LOL
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:52 pm    Post subject:

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I'm confused - I thought you wanted LW fired? As for me, I don't because I don't see the point - so why would I email Magic. Anyways - your right - let's do something more productive and come up with a prop bet on when Ty Lue becomes our next coach -- LOL


Well your concerns about having to "guard against" a coaching change that was directed towards LG would be better served to be emailed to Magic since Magic makes the decisions. LG makes no decisions regarding coaching changes. No need to convince anyone on LG to "guard against" anything. We have no say in the matter.

I joined the conversation when it was about --> only 5-10 coaches in the league being able to get us to a 28-28 record.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:56 pm    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
cooleggs wrote:
I'm confused - I thought you wanted LW fired? As for me, I don't because I don't see the point - so why would I email Magic. Anyways - your right - let's do something more productive and come up with a prop bet on when Ty Lue becomes our next coach -- LOL


Suit yourself.

I joined the conversation when it was about only 5-10 coaches in the league being able to get us to a 28-28 record.


Well ---- I think most coaches are mediocre at best. Good coaches are probably able to get you that .5 record. That's why good players are so important in the NBA. If this was RamsGround or ChargersGround (or RaidersGround) - I'd have a totally different opinion.

--oh man you edited your post after I replied - no fair
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Have Luke/Shaw finish the season. Miraculously finish 7th seed. Pull a first round upset vs Denver. Best case scenario we meet Warriors in the WCF. Realistically we will face OKC/POR in the 2nd round and we lose in 7.

Fire Luke/Shaw right after the playoffs. Hire Mark Jackson and Crew.

Offer a last chance package (Zo, Ingram, Hart, Future Picks to Pelicans for AD/Hill after Celtics refuse to trade Tatum/Etc for AD.

At least ONE ring in the years 2020-2022 or I will ban myself for LIFE.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:23 pm    Post subject:

krisobe wrote:
Have Luke/Shaw finish the season. Miraculously finish 7th seed. Pull a first round upset vs Denver. Best case scenario we meet Warriors in the WCF. Realistically we will face OKC/POR in the 2nd round and we lose in 7.

Fire Luke/Shaw right after the playoffs. Hire Mark Jackson and Crew.

Offer a last chance package (Zo, Ingram, Hart, Future Picks to Pelicans for AD/Hill after Celtics refuse to trade Tatum/Etc for AD.

At least ONE ring in the years 2020-2022 or I will ban myself for LIFE.


I can see this team getting to the 6th seed, which makes it more plausible to get to the second round. Playoff LeBron is scary because he’s not (bleep) around at that point. I think you’d see an other worldly type of performance from him vs anyone but the Warriors. I think he even gets you to the WCF.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:28 pm    Post subject:

ReaListik wrote:
krisobe wrote:
Have Luke/Shaw finish the season. Miraculously finish 7th seed. Pull a first round upset vs Denver. Best case scenario we meet Warriors in the WCF. Realistically we will face OKC/POR in the 2nd round and we lose in 7.

Fire Luke/Shaw right after the playoffs. Hire Mark Jackson and Crew.

Offer a last chance package (Zo, Ingram, Hart, Future Picks to Pelicans for AD/Hill after Celtics refuse to trade Tatum/Etc for AD.

At least ONE ring in the years 2020-2022 or I will ban myself for LIFE.


I can see this team getting to the 6th seed, which makes it more plausible to get to the second round. Playoff LeBron is scary because he’s not (bleep) around at that point. I think you’d see an other worldly type of performance from him vs anyone but the Warriors. I think he even gets you to the WCF.


6th seed right now is Utah, 8 games above .500.

Our high point this season was 20-14, 6 games above .500

We'd have to play some serious bb the rest of the way to get 8 games above .500.

We have 26 games left. We'd have to go 17-9 and even then, we'd need Utah to play .500 ball the rest of the way.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 5:22 pm    Post subject:

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I can see this team getting to the 6th seed, which makes it more plausible to get to the second round. Playoff LeBron is scary because he’s not (bleep) around at that point. I think you’d see an other worldly type of performance from him vs anyone but the Warriors. I think he even gets you to the WCF.


Maybe I'm a pessimist, but I think Lebron may not be able to dominate quite as much as in past postseasons, especially throughout a whole 7 game series. He'll still be very good, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:58 pm    Post subject:

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If Luke is fired, then the Lakers had better not consider Jeff Van Gundy. That bald headed idiot is the biggest Lakers-hater in the sports media, bar none.


Pretty sure he's retired. Going on two decades since he coached.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:29 pm    Post subject:

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troy wrote:
If Luke is fired, then the Lakers had better not consider Jeff Van Gundy. That bald headed idiot is the biggest Lakers-hater in the sports media, bar none.


Pretty sure he's retired. Going on two decades since he coached.


Not sure how JVG is a Lakers hater.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:36 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1095366687010877440?s=21

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:03 pm    Post subject:

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https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1095366687010877440?s=21

Smh


Look at that list... Lord have mercy on us
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:18 pm    Post subject:

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manlisten wrote:
troy wrote:
If Luke is fired, then the Lakers had better not consider Jeff Van Gundy. That bald headed idiot is the biggest Lakers-hater in the sports media, bar none.


Pretty sure he's retired. Going on two decades since he coached.


Not sure how JVG is a Lakers hater.


Trust me, I've heard his comments, otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned him as a laker hater. And he absolutely went off on Magic and the Lakers after that AD fiasco.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject:

danzag wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1095366687010877440?s=21

Smh


Look at that list... Lord have mercy on us


According to SAS, Magic has his eyes on one particular coach who’s currently employed as a HC.

Let’s hope because that list is trash.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:49 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
danzag wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1095366687010877440?s=21

Smh


Look at that list... Lord have mercy on us


According to SAS, Magic has his eyes on one particular coach who’s currently employed as a HC.

Let’s hope because that list is trash.


That's Maginka's idea of good coaches? Wow we are in for something
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Kevin McHale anyone?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:02 pm    Post subject:

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Kevin McHale anyone?

No, he bleeds green...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:12 pm    Post subject:

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Kevin McHale anyone?




I'd rather sign Luke to a 25-year contract
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Kevin McHale anyone?

No, he bleeds green...

I know I was being halv serious, but...take away that green and I’d like the idea of him coaching this team.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:30 pm    Post subject:

2019 wrote:
danzag wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
https://twitter.com/hmfaigen/status/1095366687010877440?s=21

Smh


Look at that list... Lord have mercy on us


According to SAS, Magic has his eyes on one particular coach who’s currently employed as a HC.

Let’s hope because that list is trash.

Former teammate Larry Drew?
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