If only Jeanie was a bit smarter, we wouldn't have been in this situation. She likes to be so stubborn even though her decision to keep Luke around was wrong. When an owner makes bad decisions, everyone from the fans to the players to the front office suffer. It is what it is. I'm really looking forward to the start of next season. The dawn of a new season under a new headcoach approaches. Hopefully, we will be talking about playoff seeding this time next year. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024
Luke was not put in a position to succeed, and he was unable to rise above it. It’s unfortunate, but hopefully he will get a chance to coach at UCLA, or Arizona, or as a lead assistant, and will continue to learn and grow, and then we can rehire him down the road and he can achieve Lakers redemption.
How many coaches are put into a position to succeed? Especially an inexperienced coach?
Look at Doc Rivers. Dude came to the Clippers w/ CP3, Deandre Jordan and Blake Griffin.
They've all been traded away within the last 2 years, plus, they traded away Tobias Harris and Avery Bradley.
And the Clippers are still making a playoff push.
I can't say that the Clippers put Doc Rivers in a position to win.
Yes. It's probably not a good thing that Del Harris could've run this team in a more proficient manner, and no one would convince me otherwise. I've been (bleep) about the same Luke issues for 3 bleepin years and they just go on and on and on. Brawn called his sh insanity before he even finished his first cup of Gatorade in LA. This roster here is one that almost demands a coach with some mileage and who has bounced around the league, but still finds jobs after every firing. Larry Brown could've made this a functional team if not a "good" one. Xs and Os and a solid manipulation of timeouts and a SENSE! of who plays well with each other and who doesn't. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:10 am Post subject:
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 8:26 am Post subject:
adkindo wrote:
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
What team officials? Geeez _________________ “You can't be held captive by the fear of failure or the fear of what people may say.” - Kobe Bryant
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
What team officials? Geeez
All things being equal, Luke has not proven to be a good hire.
In 16-17 (pre-Maginka), there were locker room issues (DLO/Swaggy, Clarkson, Randle, etc.).
In 17-18, there were locker room issues and a lack of a defensive system.
This year, it doesn't appear that anyone is listening to Luke.
Even if we sign KD & Kawhi this summer, Luke has to go. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
What team officials? Geeez
All things being equal, Luke has not proven to be a good hire.
In 16-17 (pre-Maginka), there were locker room issues (DLO/Swaggy, Clarkson, Randle, etc.).
In 17-18, there were locker room issues and a lack of a defensive system.
This year, it doesn't appear that anyone is listening to Luke.
Even if we sign KD & Kawhi this summer, Luke has to go.
Bullsh-t.
DLO/Swaggy locker room issues has nothing to do with Luke. Clarkson and Randle never had any problems and they both love Luke.
Lack of defensive system in 17-18? We had the #12 defense and we were tanking
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:02 am Post subject:
lakersfever714 wrote:
If only Jeanie was a bit smarter, we wouldn't have been in this situation. She likes to be so stubborn even though her decision to keep Luke around was wrong. When an owner makes bad decisions, everyone from the fans to the players to the front office suffer. It is what it is. I'm really looking forward to the start of next season. The dawn of a new season under a new headcoach approaches. Hopefully, we will be talking about playoff seeding this time next year.
Maybe she is a bit smarter and knows that roster construction is the issue and not the coach. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
I think he's ok on defense, but his offense has always been a trainwreck.
And his substitutions and player relations (which was supposed to be his strong suit) have been terrible. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
Yeah it’s painfully obvious for 3 years now that Luke is a poor head coach. There’s plenty of sources out there analyzing in depth how badly coached we are
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:24 pm Post subject:
Staccatos wrote:
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
What team officials? Geeez
All things being equal, Luke has not proven to be a good hire.
In 16-17 (pre-Maginka), there were locker room issues (DLO/Swaggy, Clarkson, Randle, etc.).
In 17-18, there were locker room issues and a lack of a defensive system.
This year, it doesn't appear that anyone is listening to Luke.
Even if we sign KD & Kawhi this summer, Luke has to go.
Bullsh-t.
DLO/Swaggy locker room issues has nothing to do with Luke. Clarkson and Randle never had any problems and they both love Luke.
Lack of defensive system in 17-18? We had the #12 defense and we were tanking
I've been upset at the lineups and the offense by Luke.
But I agree with you calling out the BS for the the above post.
Watch this series by former NBA staffer/video coordinator/advance scout Bryan Oringher (with the Wizards/Hawks/Raptors) on what's wrong with the Lakers in a 3 part youtube.
He seems to say this alot: "How many times are you going to let the same play beat you?"
He talks about common plays teams run and how the Lakers keep playing them, and is just scratching his head as to why the Lakers don't adjust.
Also highlights some plays Lebron gets roasted in the media for but does a breakdown on what everyone is supposed to be doing. Hint: it's not all Lebron.
He shows what would be on a opposing team scouting report and how either the Lakers simply don't know what's on it or don't care.
It's a comedy of errors.
Spacing, defensive responsibility,hedging, no icing on PNRs, communication, positioning, adjustments.
Yeah this really telling. I never bought into the poor Luke look at the roster he was given narrative. A better coach and we sure as hell aren’t in 11ty. _________________ Lebron James plays no defense because his fans do all the defending for him
"Lebron James is no longer chasing Jordan, I think he is only chasing Michael B. Jordan as in hollywood." ~ Skip Bayless
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
What team officials? Geeez
All things being equal, Luke has not proven to be a good hire.
In 16-17 (pre-Maginka), there were locker room issues (DLO/Swaggy, Clarkson, Randle, etc.).
In 17-18, there were locker room issues and a lack of a defensive system.
This year, it doesn't appear that anyone is listening to Luke.
Even if we sign KD & Kawhi this summer, Luke has to go.
Bullsh-t.
DLO/Swaggy locker room issues has nothing to do with Luke. Clarkson and Randle never had any problems and they both love Luke.
Lack of defensive system in 17-18? We had the #12 defense and we were tanking
I've been upset at the lineups and the offense by Luke.
But I agree with you calling out the BS for the the above post.
I am too pissed with some of Luke's decisions. But it's not all his fault, far from it actually
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
Ya, I'm sure Magic gives a (bleep) how "team officials" feel.
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
Ya, I'm sure Magic gives a (bleep) how "team officials" feel.
Right now there is only 1 team official that matters when it comes to Luke, and we have no idea what she will be thinking when that conversation eventually surfaces in a few months.
I think he's ok on defense, but his offense has always been a trainwreck.
And his substitutions and player relations (which was supposed to be his strong suit) have been terrible.
I'd be ok keeping him if he had a real staff. I don't really get it, Steve Kerr surrounded himself with Adams and Gentry and Luke chooses... Murmuys and B. Shaw? Cmon. But he's shown to be able to do a good job on defense. Despite weirdness in not playing Randle at first, he did a nice job in '17-'18
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 40345 Location: Dirty South
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:40 pm Post subject:
The Lebrons wrote:
adkindo wrote:
maybe Luke is not 100% gone? Per the Bill Oram article....
Quote:
"Walton has a year left on the four-year contract he signed in 2016, and firing the 38-year-old would cause considerable heartburn for officials within the organization who, according to team sources, continue to advocate for him."
Ya, I'm sure Magic gives a (bleep) how "team officials" feel.
Magic does not have the final say.....if he did, he would have replaced Luke last summer.
Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 40345 Location: Dirty South
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:41 pm Post subject:
tox wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I think he's ok on defense, but his offense has always been a trainwreck.
And his substitutions and player relations (which was supposed to be his strong suit) have been terrible.
I'd be ok keeping him if he had a real staff. I don't really get it, Steve Kerr surrounded himself with Adams and Gentry and Luke chooses... Murmuys and B. Shaw? Cmon. But he's shown to be able to do a good job on defense. Despite weirdness in not playing Randle at first, he did a nice job in '17-'18
I have wondered about this also....could it be that he just does not have the respect of these valuable veteran assistant coaches or enough of it to join his staff?
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Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:44 pm Post subject:
Not sure if mentioned....but when Sean Miller said goodbye to the Arizona home crowd at the last home game of the season....it did not feel like "see you next year". It clearly sounded like a final goodbye.
So the rumors are out there linking Luke to UCLA and Arizona....wonder which one he would prefer? I think many would assume Arizona, but UCLA is a bigger job and allows him to not disrupt his life.
I think he's ok on defense, but his offense has always been a trainwreck.
And his substitutions and player relations (which was supposed to be his strong suit) have been terrible.
I'd be ok keeping him if he had a real staff. I don't really get it, Steve Kerr surrounded himself with Adams and Gentry and Luke chooses... Murmuys and B. Shaw? Cmon. But he's shown to be able to do a good job on defense. Despite weirdness in not playing Randle at first, he did a nice job in '17-'18
I have wondered about this also....could it be that he just does not have the respect of these valuable veteran assistant coaches or enough of it to join his staff?
Maybe but I feel like after the 39-4 he was seen as a real up-and-comer.
Not sure if mentioned....but when Sean Miller said goodbye to the Arizona home crowd at the last home game of the season....it did not feel like "see you next year". It clearly sounded like a final goodbye.
So the rumors are out there linking Luke to UCLA and Arizona....wonder which one he would prefer? I think many would assume Arizona, but UCLA is a bigger job and allows him to not disrupt his life.
I think Luke will go back to college, he doesn't need the headache of trying to cater to a superstar that won't listen to him. So on that front he might be glad that his tenure will probably be over at the end of this season. I can see him going to UCLA because its his dad's alma mater and they are desperate to find anybody to revitalize the program.
Not sure if mentioned....but when Sean Miller said goodbye to the Arizona home crowd at the last home game of the season....it did not feel like "see you next year". It clearly sounded like a final goodbye.
So the rumors are out there linking Luke to UCLA and Arizona....wonder which one he would prefer? I think many would assume Arizona, but UCLA is a bigger job and allows him to not disrupt his life.
Arizona is going to be sanctioned like a MF'er... plus Luke loves nothing more than living on the beach.Having gone to U of A, I can say it's a great spot to live/raise a family when you have money, but it's not LA.
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