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lakersfan8
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| trablos wrote: | | Call me crazy, but I feel like KCP should be put back at the starting 2 so Hart and Kuz can tear up opposing reserve units. BI at SG is taking him out of his element and I'm getting sick of seeing Lance, Rondo, and KCP on the floor at the same time. |
I only watched the 2nd half of the Kings game. KCP played so bad..It is not just he was missing the 3 points attempt, those 3s were so way off. I won't consider him as a shooter anymore. His defense was not bad though |
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kikanga
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This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin.
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
No. I appreciate that we've gotten lucky thus far and he's shot well, but let's quit while we're ahead because it will come crashing back down to earth sooner rather than later. Give all his possessions to Ingram. |
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
No. I appreciate that we've gotten lucky thus far and he's shot well, but let's quit while we're ahead because it will come crashing back down to earth sooner rather than later. Give all his possessions to Ingram. |
Before we go down a rabbit hole. What is your goal for this season? Maybe we want different things for the team.
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The Lebrons
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| Defense has been trending the right direction, with last night being an incredible defensive performance. I can't believe how much Chandler has improved our D, albeit only through two games. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Defense has been trending the right direction, with last night being an incredible defensive performance. I can't believe how much Chandler has improved our D, albeit only through two games. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 3:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Defense has been trending the right direction, with last night being an incredible defensive performance. I can't believe how much Chandler has improved our D, albeit only through two games. |
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The Lebrons
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| kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
No. I appreciate that we've gotten lucky thus far and he's shot well, but let's quit while we're ahead because it will come crashing back down to earth sooner rather than later. Give all his possessions to Ingram. |
Before we go down a rabbit hole. What is your goal for this season? Maybe we want different things for the team. |
To win as many basketball games as possible. |
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kikanga
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
No. I appreciate that we've gotten lucky thus far and he's shot well, but let's quit while we're ahead because it will come crashing back down to earth sooner rather than later. Give all his possessions to Ingram. |
Before we go down a rabbit hole. What is your goal for this season? Maybe we want different things for the team. |
To win as many basketball games as possible. |
Regular season games? Or playoffs?
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The Lebrons
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| kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
No. I appreciate that we've gotten lucky thus far and he's shot well, but let's quit while we're ahead because it will come crashing back down to earth sooner rather than later. Give all his possessions to Ingram. |
Before we go down a rabbit hole. What is your goal for this season? Maybe we want different things for the team. |
To win as many basketball games as possible. |
Regular season games? Or playoffs? |
I'll make it simple, Lance is bad and I'd rather any of Lonzo/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Rondo/KCP get minutes over him. |
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I'll make it simple, Lance is bad and I'd rather any of Lonzo/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Rondo/KCP get minutes over him. |
Even if that causes us to lose more games in the immediate future and/or playoffs?
I'm trying to figure out if your ideal rotation accounts for player performance.
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The Lebrons
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| kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: |
I'll make it simple, Lance is bad and I'd rather any of Lonzo/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Rondo/KCP get minutes over him. |
Even if that causes us to lose more games in the immediate future and//or playoffs?
I'm trying to figure out if your ideal rotation accounts for player performance. |
Generally I would say yes, but I just don't like the way Lance plays. We have enough guys to handle the ball, we don't need Lance ISOs and jacking contested long 2s. I understand he's hot (career high eFG%), but it's not going to last and I'd rather have the ball in the hands of Ingram/Rondo/Lonzo or have KCP for shooting (despite his cold start). I don't think Lance is a + defender either. |
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Generally I would say yes, but I just don't like the way Lance plays. |
I don't like the way Curry or Draymond plays. One fishes for calls on 3PT attempts. The other sets (at least) 10 moving screens a game.
But this is a coaching thread. We have to be objective. Follow the stats. Gotta ignore personal preference.
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: |
I'll make it simple, Lance is bad and I'd rather any of Lonzo/Kuzma/Ingram/Hart/Rondo/KCP get minutes over him. |
Even if that causes us to lose more games in the immediate future and//or playoffs?
I'm trying to figure out if your ideal rotation accounts for player performance. |
Generally I would say yes, but I just don't like the way Lance plays. We have enough guys to handle the ball, we don't need Lance ISOs and jacking contested long 2s. I understand he's hot (career high eFG%), but it's not going to last and I'd rather have the ball in the hands of Ingram/Rondo/Lonzo or have KCP for shooting (despite his cold start). I don't think Lance is a + defender either. |
If Ingram and Kuzma are playing well. Leave Lance on the bench. Otherwise, he's our best alternative when you look at 3P%, defensive impact, rebounding % and most importantly defensive rebounding %.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:33 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
Yup. And start Hart instead of BI. |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
Yup. And start Hart instead of BI. |
Naw, start Hart instead of Kuz. |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
Yup. And start Hart instead of BI. |
Naw, start Hart instead of Kuz. |
No. Kuz meshes way better with Lebron and Lonzo even with his D being poor.
Our current starting lineup of Zo, BI, Bron, Kuz, McGee has played 87 minuts together and have a net rating of -9.5
The lineup with Zo, Hart, Bron, Kuz, McGee has played 50 minutes together and is a +8.8.
No other 5 man lineup that's played at least 20 minutes has a better net rating. |
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| The Juggernaut wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | | The Juggernaut wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | This season, Lance is performing like a top tier 3 and D guy.
Give 👏🏾. Lance 👏🏾. More 👏🏾. Minutes 👏🏾.
Between Ingram and Kuzma, somebody is gonna (bleep) the bed. In the 4th. Give that person's minutes to Lance. Especially if he's rollin. |
Yup. And start Hart instead of BI. |
Naw, start Hart instead of Kuz. |
No. Kuz meshes way better with Lebron and Lonzo even with his D being poor.
Our current starting lineup of Zo, BI, Bron, Kuz, McGee has played 87 minuts together and have a net rating of -9.5
The lineup with Zo, Hart, Bron, Kuz, McGee has played 50 minutes together and is a +8.8.
No other 5 man lineup that's played at least 20 minutes has a better net rating. |
It's not a big enough sample size to look at for Zo, Hart, BI, LeBron, and McGee, but I do feel it'll be a better defensive and rebounding line up. Once BI becomes a consistent scorer, he'll be really legit. |
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 7:07 pm Post subject: |
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| kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: |
Generally I would say yes, but I just don't like the way Lance plays. |
I don't like the way Curry or Draymond plays. One fishes for calls on 3PT attempts. The other sets (at least) 10 moving screens a game.
But this is a coaching thread. We have to be objective. Follow the stats. Gotta ignore personal preference. |
Uh, ok. I'm going to check out now. Good luck with your Lance take, I don't think it's going to age well. |
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| Lakers should just practice boxing out, passing and screens. No shooting until they figure out how to do the other stuff. |
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kikanga
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| The Lebrons wrote: | | kikanga wrote: | | The Lebrons wrote: |
Generally I would say yes, but I just don't like the way Lance plays. |
I don't like the way Curry or Draymond plays. One fishes for calls on 3PT attempts. The other sets (at least) 10 moving screens a game.
But this is a coaching thread. We have to be objective. Follow the stats. Gotta ignore personal preference. |
Uh, ok. I'm going to check out now. Good luck with your Lance take, I don't think it's going to age well. |
It's not about personal preference. That was my point.
Playing players who are effective normally ages well.
It's not like I'm saying, play Lance more minutes even if he's playing badly in a given game.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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This is some of the worst coaching I've seen from him tonight and that says a lot.
1) What kind of lineup is a lineup where you need Lance Stephenson to bail you out?
2) Call a timeout. You don't have the resume, system, players and experience to attempt Phil Jackson type tactics
3) Rondo pretty much owns him. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Does Walton do anything during time outs? Looks like he just stands there not saying anything. |
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Nonamehero
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Luke Walton is done, he is just a (bleep). |
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CantStopJM
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| Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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Magic needs to make that call right now.
He's pathetic man. |
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