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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:21 am Post subject: Patrick Beverly suspened Jamal Murray fined
Beverly was suspended for 4 games for throwing a basketball at fans twice. Murray was fined $100,000 for throwing a towel and heat pack on the court during the game possibly causing injury to players. I don't think the punishments were equal. Murray should have gotten suspended. If Draymond had done what Murray did he would have been. The punishment has put Adam Silver in the spotlight. He's being compared to David Stern. Pundits are saying Stern would have suspended Jamal.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 8:08 am Post subject:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Beverly’s suspension was also because of the way he treated that ESPN reporter. Repeat offender.
Jamal could have injured players and derailed championship hopes. Did you factor in seriousness and injuries? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 8:13 am Post subject:
jodeke wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Beverly’s suspension was also because of the way he treated that ESPN reporter. Repeat offender.
Jamal could have injured players and derailed championship hopes. Did you factor in seriousness and injuries?
Why factor in injuries that are fictional? Using that logic Beverly could have taken an eye out, caused a serious concussion or broke bones of innocent fans. He didn’t and considering both infractions, the punishment fits. The NBA has rules, the senior ref said that if they had seen Murray throw the pad, the penalty would have been a technical but no suspension. The punishment he got fits that. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 8:18 am Post subject:
venturalakersfan wrote:
jodeke wrote:
venturalakersfan wrote:
Beverly’s suspension was also because of the way he treated that ESPN reporter. Repeat offender.
Jamal could have injured players and derailed championship hopes. Did you factor in seriousness and injuries?
Why factor in injuries that are fictional? Using that logic Beverly could have taken an eye out, caused a serious concussion or broke bones of innocent fans. He didn’t and considering both infractions, the punishment fits. The NBA has rules, the senior ref said that if they had seen Murray throw the pad, the penalty would have been a technical but no suspension. The punishment he got fits that.
If you shoot at someone and miss doesn't negate you shot. The possibility of injuries was real. The act should be considered. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 9:33 am Post subject:
22 wrote:
Murray got off easy because the nba wants viewership for game 3 plain and simple. It’s wrong but they don’t care about that
This; Also, maybe Draymond's suspension possibly costing the Warriors the chance at a championship had something to do with it. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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I think it comes down to one simple thing: regular season vs playoffs.
While I think what Murray did was stupid and potentially dangerous, he ultimately didn't hurt anyone. And for that, the league probably didn't want to "over punish" because he and his team are still playing in the playoffs. Defending champs at that - facing 0-2 deficit. Suspending Murray likely ends any chance Denver has of coming back in the series. Had Murray actually hit/hurt someone, the league office would probably have had to at least strongly consider a suspension. We don't normally see playoff suspensions unless it's something really egregious.
Pat Bev's suspension is for the regular season (assuming he's even in the league because he is going to be a FA). I agree that Pat Bev's punishment is a result of his past behavior. After Malice at the Palace, the league definitely won't tolerate any violence between players/fans. If it were another player with less of a history, they probably get 1-2 games instead. I don't believe the interaction with the reporter factored into the suspension much. While incredibly unprofessional of him, I think that he would have simply been fined for it, which is taken care of via the games he's suspended for.
Murray got preferential treatment. There's no question about it.
Look at what he did: threw a heat pack on the court, which could have seriously injured Towns, which would have legitimately derailed the Wolves quest at a title. He then threw a towel (at a referee). And prior to his temper tantrum, he flashed the money sign. He was only fined 100K.
Earlier in the season, Rudy Gobert flashed the money sign and was fined the same 100K. No other extracurriculars from Gobert.
And yet the two received the same punishment?
It's total BS and Murray should have been hit with a much more substantial punishment.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 10:39 am Post subject:
quartzcharm wrote:
Murray got preferential treatment. There's no question about it.
Look at what he did: threw a heat pack on the court, which could have seriously injured Towns, which would have legitimately derailed the Wolves quest at a title. He then threw a towel (at a referee). And prior to his temper tantrum, he flashed the money sign. He was only fined 100K.
Earlier in the season, Rudy Gobert flashed the money sign and was fined the same 100K. No other extracurriculars from Gobert.
And yet the two received the same punishment?
It's total BS and Murray should have been hit with a much more substantial punishment.
I forgot about the money sign. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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The precedence was set a while ago back at the Malice at the Palace. You don't engage with the fans. They are the paying customer. Once you take matters into your own hands, it looks bad for the league.
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Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 10:53 pm Post subject:
lakersken80 wrote:
The precedence was set a while ago back at the Malice at the Palace. You don't engage with the fans. They are the paying customer. Once you take matters into your own hands, it looks bad for the league.
It’s sort of odd to me that Beverly only got four games. He threw a ball at that lady’s head (seemingly not even his intended target) with significant force that could have caused harm. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
The precedence was set a while ago back at the Malice at the Palace. You don't engage with the fans. They are the paying customer. Once you take matters into your own hands, it looks bad for the league.
It’s sort of odd to me that Beverly only got four games. He threw a ball at that lady’s head (seemingly not even his intended target) with significant force that could have caused harm.
Pat should have received more than four games. He got off light. That was assault. With the force he threw that ball if it had hit an elderly person in the face it could have caused a really serious injury.
Murray also should have been suspended for a game. He obviously threw that heat pack at the referee. How do you throw objects at a ref from the bench and not get suspended?
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Posted: Mon May 13, 2024 4:17 pm Post subject:
ducasse wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
The precedence was set a while ago back at the Malice at the Palace. You don't engage with the fans. They are the paying customer. Once you take matters into your own hands, it looks bad for the league.
It’s sort of odd to me that Beverly only got four games. He threw a ball at that lady’s head (seemingly not even his intended target) with significant force that could have caused harm.
Pat should have received more than four games. He got off light. That was assault. If that ball had hit an elderly person in the head it could have caused a really serious injury.
Murray also should have been suspended for a game. He obviously threw that heat pack at the referee. How do you throw objects at a ref from the bench and not get suspended?
That's what cracks me up. You accidentally bump a ref and it's an automatic 1 game. Intentionally throw stuff at them and it's not an issue?
Beverly’s suspension was also because of the way he treated that ESPN reporter. Repeat offender.
Jamal could have injured players and derailed championship hopes. Did you factor in seriousness and injuries?
Why factor in injuries that are fictional? Using that logic Beverly could have taken an eye out, caused a serious concussion or broke bones of innocent fans. He didn’t and considering both infractions, the punishment fits. The NBA has rules, the senior ref said that if they had seen Murray throw the pad, the penalty would have been a technical but no suspension. The punishment he got fits that.
If you shoot at someone and miss doesn't negate you shot. The possibility of injuries was real. The act should be considered.
If his actions had caused injuries or even if he had hit an official or player, the penalties would have been much different. It’s hard to suspend someone for injuring a player if he didn’t injure a player. It was reckless but luckily for all involved, nothing happened.
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