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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:49 pm    Post subject:

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I stepped out of the room. I missed why they had to "apologize" for Kobe's language lol


He said horse shit


LG apologizes for 24's language


Oh no, 24 is talking to himself again.


At least I haven't stooped to waving Michael Moore's pelvis in everyone's faces


I've been doing this since 2005 though.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:51 pm    Post subject:

dirka dirka wrote:
24 wrote:
dirka dirka wrote:
24 wrote:
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I stepped out of the room. I missed why they had to "apologize" for Kobe's language lol


He said horse shit


LG apologizes for 24's language


Oh no, 24 is talking to himself again.


At least I haven't stooped to waving Michael Moore's pelvis in everyone's faces


I've been doing this since 2005 though.


As have I with talking to myself.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:58 pm    Post subject:

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This starting rotation hasn't been clicking at all. Hill turned around our last game but still got paltry minutes.

Blake hasn't played well in the YEARS he's been here until the end of last year. Dude stepped on a spike and only played half the year.

Do I really need to link his stats? He's been TERRIBLE, and he's only played half the games the past two years.

The difference is our coach isn't paying attention to whom is playing well during a game half the time and is starting a slow footed team that doesn't fit together. There needs to be a balance here, you can't have your starters be terrible just because your bench is great.

The first 10 minutes of a game are just as important as any other 10 minutes.


Blake played well second half of last year including before Kobe went down and has played well this year.

Seems like you have an issue with MDA all year, but they have been playing above expectations.
So what do you attribute the difference to tonight?
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:11 pm    Post subject:

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This starting rotation hasn't been clicking at all. Hill turned around our last game but still got paltry minutes.

Blake hasn't played well in the YEARS he's been here until the end of last year. Dude stepped on a spike and only played half the year.

Do I really need to link his stats? He's been TERRIBLE, and he's only played half the games the past two years.

The difference is our coach isn't paying attention to whom is playing well during a game half the time and is starting a slow footed team that doesn't fit together. There needs to be a balance here, you can't have your starters be terrible just because your bench is great.

The first 10 minutes of a game are just as important as any other 10 minutes.

Yeah, he's only put 12 different guys in the starting lineup. I wish he'd experiment a bit.


Was I calling for experimentation?


You're just being a contrarian. Everyone on the team has had a chance to start and no matter what happens, the starters struggle against the other team's starters and the bench excels against the other teams bench. Kind of what you would expect of a roster full of guys that have been reserve players most or all of their careers.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:12 pm    Post subject:

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This starting rotation hasn't been clicking at all. Hill turned around our last game but still got paltry minutes.

Blake hasn't played well in the YEARS he's been here until the end of last year. Dude stepped on a spike and only played half the year.

Do I really need to link his stats? He's been TERRIBLE, and he's only played half the games the past two years.

The difference is our coach isn't paying attention to whom is playing well during a game half the time and is starting a slow footed team that doesn't fit together. There needs to be a balance here, you can't have your starters be terrible just because your bench is great.

The first 10 minutes of a game are just as important as any other 10 minutes.

Yeah, he's only put 12 different guys in the starting lineup. I wish he'd experiment a bit.


Was I calling for experimentation?


You're just being a contrarian. Everyone on the team has had a chance to start and no matter what happens, the starters struggle against the other team's starters and the bench excels against the other teams bench. Kind of what you would expect of a roster full of guys that have been reserve players most or all of their careers.






Oh...that's good.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:19 pm    Post subject:

Anyone have links to these postgame interviews? Specifically Kobe, X, and Black? pls
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:41 pm    Post subject:

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Anyone have links to these postgame interviews? Specifically Kobe, X, and Black? pls


It's on nba.com now.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 08, 2013 10:42 pm    Post subject:

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Terrible game by Pau tonight. No sugarcoating it.


It looked like Pau's first game back too for some reason.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:05 am    Post subject:

Everyone gave cliche answers regarding to Kobe, except Blake. He was like I don't know! Which is basically.. I don't care! I wonder if Kobe and Blake got into a tiff?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:10 am    Post subject:

How much of the Lakers loss can be attributed to the last minute trade, essentially throwing the scouting report out of the window?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:55 am    Post subject:

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How much of the Lakers loss can be attributed to the last minute trade, essentially throwing the scouting report out of the window?


Close to irrelevant I would say. It was a very winnable game, Raptors really aren't that good.

The more I think about it the more I think that both Kobe and the team wasn't ready for his come back. I might be wrong but they should have had a clearer plan for Kobe. It should have been more scripted than that. There where times when Kobe was trying to post up in the high post while they where still running p'n'r on the side. It shoudn't happen. Nobody looked ready.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:20 am    Post subject:

There was dissension between Blake and Kobe, but it seemed to come entirely from Blake.

We have to remember that Blake was living it up as PG and SG when Kobe was gone. Now that Kobe's back, he doesn't seem like he wants to get out of the limelight just yet.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:25 am    Post subject:

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How much of the Lakers loss can be attributed to the last minute trade, essentially throwing the scouting report out of the window?


Thought it was addition by subtraction for the Raptors. High Volume Rudy would've bricked many of those shots and whenever JHill's there to clean up, the Lakers are off to the races. Instead, they actually worked their offense to attack the underbelly of the Lakers' efense in the paint and Magic Amir had a career night.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:58 am    Post subject:

Anybody know where I can find the Kobe video that was played by Time Warner Sports Net before the game?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:07 am    Post subject:

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Anybody know where I can find the Kobe video that was played by Time Warner Sports Net before the game?


The one by James Worthy?
https://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2013/12/08/james-worthy-pays-tribute-to-kobe-bryant
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 9:15 am    Post subject:

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Anybody know where I can find the Kobe video that was played by Time Warner Sports Net before the game?


The one by James Worthy?
https://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2013/12/08/james-worthy-pays-tribute-to-kobe-bryant


Thanks for posting that link but that's not it. Anyone else know which one I am referring to? Its narrirated by a young voice.....not sure who it is but it was shown before the game. Before the pre game show on twsn.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:04 am    Post subject:

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There was dissension between Blake and Kobe, but it seemed to come entirely from Blake.

We have to remember that Blake was living it up as PG and SG when Kobe was gone. Now that Kobe's back, he doesn't seem like he wants to get out of the limelight just yet.


i find that hard to believe. at his age, and seeming maturity and intelligence, i'm sure has no delusions of being a star. he was just pissed they lost and he had a particularly poor game.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:06 am    Post subject:

K2, this is the video that I was reffering to...I found it!!!! Its soooo epic!


http://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2013/12/08/lee-jenkins-essay-on-kobe-bryant
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:11 pm    Post subject:

Runway8 wrote:
Everyone gave cliche answers regarding to Kobe, except Blake. He was like I don't know! Which is basically.. I don't care! I wonder if Kobe and Blake got into a tiff?


Probably his way of saying Its a team sport
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:16 pm    Post subject:

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K2, this is the video that I was reffering to...I found it!!!! Its soooo epic!


http://www.twcsportsnet.com/videos/2013/12/08/lee-jenkins-essay-on-kobe-bryant


Thanks for the link LakersPark! Got to say after watching it several more times, it is very well done, it's the best of all of the vids.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 6:54 pm    Post subject:

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How much of the Lakers loss can be attributed to the last minute trade, essentially throwing the scouting report out of the window?


I'd say zero. The trade should have made it easier.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:48 pm    Post subject:

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He was acting like that because John Ireland is the worst post game interview, yet he is forced to talk to him first after every game. Shamelessly probing for sound bytes. Blake was trying to dismiss ireland until he was out of questions.

Thats my take at least.


One of the best things about Kobe being back is now Ireland can stop asking guys if they ever thought they'd be .500 or win X amount of games without Kobe after every game.

That is incredibly annoying and undermines what the entire team has been working for.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:17 pm    Post subject:

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Everyone gave cliche answers regarding to Kobe, except Blake. He was like I don't know! Which is basically.. I don't care! I wonder if Kobe and Blake got into a tiff?


Well look at this way, Kobe comes in takes over the play making duties that Blake was doing so well in MDA's system. Now they run Kobe ball and Blake just goes back to the Phil Jackson mode which he hates. It's no longer ball movement and finding the open shooter, it's give the ball to Kobe and have him create plays for others which is different than what MDA's pg are supposed to do. There was definitely frustration and of course Blake is not going to say anything more than "I don't know".
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