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heatseeker08
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hope you guys have a good sleep tonight...
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Dladi Vidac
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lol stop singing A holes
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joeljoelbinks
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| CandyCanes wrote: | | What the hell did I just watch? |
You just watched the Lakers show that they really don't give a **** |
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| Sleepy wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | That was an offensive foul if anything |
 Never gets old. Your agenda, that is. |
Its become a joke to every but Ventura. He was clearly in the circle but venturakobehater really really wants it to be a block so thats what he sees. |
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FBP Si 2000
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| Sleepy wrote: | | First of all, this game has ZERO to do with playing the Heat. I don't know why everyone keeps bringing it up as if this game is a direct reflection of a game they will be playing in 4 days. |
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they can't even sing.. this teams sucks 
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LAkers 4 Life
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| aachan wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | LA1969 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | rpadma12 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mamba3301 wrote: | | Please bring Kobe back in the game. He must be fuming on the bench, looking at this disgusting effort. He will come back and carry us to a win. |
The problem with Kobe is he plays lazy defense and his "effort" on that end has infected the team.
I don't think it matters if he comes back in or not, Shannon Brown will at least compete at both ends. |
So, Shannon Brown should start? |
I know it isn't popular around here, but Kobe's defense has tailed off to the point where his offensive contributions are not getting enough separation for the team.
He is the team leader. He needs to lead by example on both ends of the floor, not just offense.
His D is not only lazy, his fundamentals are horrible. Other guys see that and don't bust tail either.
If it is any consolation, I expect he will turn up the intensity with the bright lights on for the Christmas Game. Unfortunately, all the other lazy efforts are going to leave the Lakers needing to win road playoff games this year to advance. |
Yep. He leads by example, and his defensive example is non-existant. |
ignorant comment.
guys who killed us tonight
Bogut
Boykins
Illyasova
none were Kobe's assignment.
use your heads fellows |
Everyone on the floor needs to exert max defensive effort.
Pop in a San Antonio game, tell me that Kobe is exerting as much defensive effort as Ginobili this season.
Watch Boston play. Tell me Kobe is playing fundamental defense as well as Ray Allen.
I am a Laker fan and love Kobe. But bad D is bad D, he is our leader and needs to start leading by example on the defensive end of the floor. |
but earlier you just said he isn't a good defender. how's a bad defender supposed to lead by example on defense ?? |
He didn't say he can't defend, just that he doesn't always put out the effort. |
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bupby2
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| Where is the toughness? Ron should deck one of the opposing players to send a message! |
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FBP Si 2000
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| heatseeker08 wrote: | | hope you guys have a good sleep tonight... |
I'll be sleeping well. I'm almost over this loss already.  |
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RealOne
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| Sleepy wrote: | | First of all, this game has ZERO to do with playing the Heat. I don't know why everyone keeps bringing it up as if this game is a direct reflection of a game they will be playing in 4 days. |
So do you think Kobe will just wake up Xmas morning, happy about a beatdown by Milwaukee and go into the Staples like nothing happened?
Believe it or not, some of these guys have some pride. They are not champions in June without a bit of heart.
If you checked the Houston-LA playoffs a few years back, for every beatdown they got by 15 or more, they came back to win more often than not. |
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Rsxtreme415
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| FBP Si 2000 wrote: | | Sleepy wrote: | | First of all, this game has ZERO to do with playing the Heat. I don't know why everyone keeps bringing it up as if this game is a direct reflection of a game they will be playing in 4 days. |
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your right we will just flip a switch after a 3 day layoff. Dont worry we will win by 40(or end up losing by that much)
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| LakerLanny wrote: | | FBP Si 2000 wrote: | | aachan wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Imagine if Kobe was to do what he did in the Olympics and try to lock down every game. All the others would follow but he coasts which is like a virus thats spreads rampantly. |
Bingo.
People want to pretend that he is a good defender.
He isn't.
That said, at least he plays offense. Guys like Artest and Fisher are brutal on both ends right now. And I think Pau's defense is even worse than Kobe's which is not good. |
your comments for the passed two or so quarters have been calling kobe out. |
He doesn't have Sasha to comment on anymore.  |
Sure, blame me!
I am sorry if my posts hurt.
Watch San Antonio and Boston play. Then tell me Kobe is defending as hard as they are right now. |
you may have a point there...buy Boston and San Antonio have different defensive schemes compared to the Lakers...notice how we've always had problems with the pick and roll and those 2 teams do not? yeah, there's a reason why.
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LA1969
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| Mamba3301 wrote: | | LA1969 wrote: | | Mamba3301 wrote: | | Please bring Kobe back in the game. He must be fuming on the bench, looking at this disgusting effort. He will come back and carry us to a win. |
Yeah, thats working out well. I'm on vacation and was looking forward to this game. I shoulda went out instead. (bleep)! |
Uh he was playing well offensively until Phil decided to bench him for an inexplicably long time. They can get away with it when they're leading but not when they're trailing. He is so off rhythm every time he comes back into the game in the 4th quarter, after that looong break. |
True, and I don't just blame Kobe for this. It's the whole team but he needs to step up and play D and maybe the rest will follow.
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aachan
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| LAkers 4 Life wrote: | | aachan wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | LA1969 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | rpadma12 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mamba3301 wrote: | | Please bring Kobe back in the game. He must be fuming on the bench, looking at this disgusting effort. He will come back and carry us to a win. |
The problem with Kobe is he plays lazy defense and his "effort" on that end has infected the team.
I don't think it matters if he comes back in or not, Shannon Brown will at least compete at both ends. |
So, Shannon Brown should start? |
I know it isn't popular around here, but Kobe's defense has tailed off to the point where his offensive contributions are not getting enough separation for the team.
He is the team leader. He needs to lead by example on both ends of the floor, not just offense.
His D is not only lazy, his fundamentals are horrible. Other guys see that and don't bust tail either.
If it is any consolation, I expect he will turn up the intensity with the bright lights on for the Christmas Game. Unfortunately, all the other lazy efforts are going to leave the Lakers needing to win road playoff games this year to advance. |
Yep. He leads by example, and his defensive example is non-existant. |
ignorant comment.
guys who killed us tonight
Bogut
Boykins
Illyasova
none were Kobe's assignment.
use your heads fellows |
Everyone on the floor needs to exert max defensive effort.
Pop in a San Antonio game, tell me that Kobe is exerting as much defensive effort as Ginobili this season.
Watch Boston play. Tell me Kobe is playing fundamental defense as well as Ray Allen.
I am a Laker fan and love Kobe. But bad D is bad D, he is our leader and needs to start leading by example on the defensive end of the floor. |
but earlier you just said he isn't a good defender. how's a bad defender supposed to lead by example on defense ?? |
He didn't say he can't defend, just that he doesn't always put out the effort. |
look at another post i quoted from him 2 or so pages back. something about people pretending kobe is a good defender when he really isn't.
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LAkers 4 Life
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| Good thing I watched the LA Kings game first. At least I saw one LA team put forth the effort to win a game tonight. |
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Scarab
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| FBP Si 2000 wrote: | | heatseeker08 wrote: | | hope you guys have a good sleep tonight... |
I'll be sleeping well. I'm almost over this loss already. |
lol at heat fans thinking that this loss is indicative of anything that matters. Its not like we lost the the celtics twice already, or anyone we are likely to see in the playoffs for that matter. |
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^Exactly.
Let me clarify.
I know Kobe CAN defend.
But him and Pau look like they can't even be bothered with defense right now.
The comparison to the guys on San Antonio and Boston is obvious to anyone who watches basketball.
Does that mean he won't defend hard in the playoffs? No.
Does that mean the Lakers can't still win the title? No.
But are the Lakers in general and Kobe individually playing acceptable defense right now? Absolutely not.
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| I have never been more disappointed in a game effort than tonight's. Shameful. |
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The only guys who played consistently on the defensive end have been Barnes and Bynum.
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| heatseeker08 wrote: | | hope you guys have a good sleep tonight... |
These losses don't hurt after 2 straight championships.
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| goog02 wrote: | | Loki24 wrote: | | LOL @ morons calling out Kobe's D when it was the PG's and Bucks big man that killed the Lakers, not Kobe's man. Unbelievable. |
THat is true.
This loss has zero to do with Lakers.
You see blake, barney, Paul, Fishers all made many stupid mistakes. Those mistakes had zero to do with Kobe. |
Yeah, let's call out Kobe--who was easily the best player for the Lakers on both ends--and not focus on the (bleep) play of Pau, Odom, Fisher, etc.
LOL |
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| Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2010 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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| aachan wrote: | | LAkers 4 Life wrote: | | aachan wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Drifts wrote: | | LA1969 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | rpadma12 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | | Mamba3301 wrote: | | Please bring Kobe back in the game. He must be fuming on the bench, looking at this disgusting effort. He will come back and carry us to a win. |
The problem with Kobe is he plays lazy defense and his "effort" on that end has infected the team.
I don't think it matters if he comes back in or not, Shannon Brown will at least compete at both ends. |
So, Shannon Brown should start? |
I know it isn't popular around here, but Kobe's defense has tailed off to the point where his offensive contributions are not getting enough separation for the team.
He is the team leader. He needs to lead by example on both ends of the floor, not just offense.
His D is not only lazy, his fundamentals are horrible. Other guys see that and don't bust tail either.
If it is any consolation, I expect he will turn up the intensity with the bright lights on for the Christmas Game. Unfortunately, all the other lazy efforts are going to leave the Lakers needing to win road playoff games this year to advance. |
Yep. He leads by example, and his defensive example is non-existant. |
ignorant comment.
guys who killed us tonight
Bogut
Boykins
Illyasova
none were Kobe's assignment.
use your heads fellows |
Everyone on the floor needs to exert max defensive effort.
Pop in a San Antonio game, tell me that Kobe is exerting as much defensive effort as Ginobili this season.
Watch Boston play. Tell me Kobe is playing fundamental defense as well as Ray Allen.
I am a Laker fan and love Kobe. But bad D is bad D, he is our leader and needs to start leading by example on the defensive end of the floor. |
but earlier you just said he isn't a good defender. how's a bad defender supposed to lead by example on defense ?? |
He didn't say he can't defend, just that he doesn't always put out the effort. |
look at another post i quoted from him 2 or so pages back. something about people pretending kobe is a good defender when he really isn't. |
Just copy and paste it. I don't want to relive any more moments of this pathetic game. |
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| kobeownslebron wrote: | | No way we lose this game. |
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LakerLanny
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| aachan wrote: |
look at another post i quoted from him 2 or so pages back. something about people pretending kobe is a good defender when he really isn't. |
I guess I should say he is an inconsistent defensive player.
In my opinion, he is an outright bad defensive player but I am willing to soften it and say inconsistent to make the nut huggers happy.
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