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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject:

Why have we completely stopped playing defense?
We look awful out there
This isn't the same team that started the season
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject:

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To be fair, the last play, it was not Ron's fault. It was Kobe's fault.


The pass was fine, better than Kobe shooting over 3 people. Ron Artest had an open 3 pointer to win the game, instead he hesitates and shoots an off balanced brick. how exactly is that the fault of Kobe?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

they shouldve called a TO to take out artest and put in shannon. terrible coaching. he knows he's wrong but phil is just too stubborn to concede to a timeout
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Terrible decision making by Kobe. People saying it wasn't a bad pass because Ron received it miss the point.

Kobe if he intended to hit Ron should have done it sooner, he was WIDE open, but Kobe had the intent to score. He flipped it out there when there was no other option, at that time Gay was only a step away from recovering on Ron, which he did.

Hence the failure.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

well to take some positives from this game:

pau finally had a few plays in the fourth that looked purposeful rather than aimless like the last couple of games.

shannon brown woke up a little in the fourth.,

steve blake continues to provide a defensive alternative to fisher and to show his value to the team.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

3 in a row is disappointing but this is just another game we win if we had Bynum.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

ForumBlueFrank wrote:
thurloly wrote:
To be fair, the last play, it was not Ron's fault. It was Kobe's fault.


The pass was fine, better than Kobe shooting over 3 people. Ron Artest had an open 3 pointer to win the game, instead he hesitates and shoots an off balanced brick. how exactly is that the fault of Kobe?


It's always Kobe's fault on LG!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

If that's Shannon, Blake, Barnes, or even Fisher with that shot instead of Artest, they at least get it off with a chance at going in. Ron hesitates and has zero lift = no chance of it going in.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

MikeCiscon wrote:
all kobe's fault

9 for 25? pathetic


Not as pathetic as a troll who has 89 posts and all of them are bashing one of the Lakers players.

How isn't trash like this banned?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:27 pm    Post subject:

Bonzoid wrote:
Why have we completely stopped playing defense?
We look awful out there
This isn't the same team that started the season


It isn't. This is a worse team than last year so far and worse than Celtics last year in the regular season. Look it up.

Behind back vs both of those teams
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

These losses have a common theme:

1. Porous perimeter defense, wearing out Pau further.

2. Poor interior defense and a tendency to leave the basket exposed.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Vintage phil jackson move keeping artest in there when shannon was playing good at the end and then not calling for a timeout to run a damn play.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

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Well kiss home court advantage in the finals away (assuming the Lakers get that far). Losing to pathetic teams like Indiana (at home) and Memphis is unacceptable!


I know, right? Not a single one of the Lakers' 16 title teams ever lost to "pathetic" teams, or, in this case .500 teams. Not a single one. Doomed.

Brings back memories of Shaq & Co. during the three-peat when we lost pretty bad to the last-place Bulls twice.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

ForumBlueFrank wrote:
thurloly wrote:
To be fair, the last play, it was not Ron's fault. It was Kobe's fault.


The pass was fine, better than Kobe shooting over 3 people. Ron Artest had an open 3 pointer to win the game, instead he hesitates and shoots an off balanced brick. how exactly is that the fault of Kobe?


Watch the play again. Artest was wide open before Kobe left the floor with the defenders swarming. He tossed it back to Ron as a last resort when he knew he wouldn't be able to get the shot off. If he initially looked to set up Ron, he would've had him a half second earlier WIDE open.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

angrypuppy wrote:
These losses have a common theme:

1. Porous perimeter defense, wearing out Pau further.

2. Poor interior defense and a tendency to leave the basket exposed.


This is where they miss Drew, patrolling the paint.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:28 pm    Post subject:

Its phils fault he's getting way to old and doesn't know when to call timeouts.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject:

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Terrible decision making by Kobe. People saying it wasn't a bad pass because Ron received it miss the point.

Kobe if he intended to hit Ron should have done it sooner, he was WIDE open, but Kobe had the intent to score. He flipped it out there when there was no other option, at that time Gay was only a step away from recovering on Ron, which he did.

Hence the failure.


Too much sense.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject:

ForumBlueFrank wrote:
thurloly wrote:
To be fair, the last play, it was not Ron's fault. It was Kobe's fault.


The pass was fine, better than Kobe shooting over 3 people. Ron Artest had an open 3 pointer to win the game, instead he hesitates and shoots an off balanced brick. how exactly is that the fault of Kobe?



agree Ron had a wide open shot due to kobe and he simply choke
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:29 pm    Post subject:

Phil "teaching" again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject:

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Terrible decision making by Kobe. People saying it wasn't a bad pass because Ron received it miss the point.

Kobe if he intended to hit Ron should have done it sooner, he was WIDE open, but Kobe had the intent to score. He flipped it out there when there was no other option, at that time Gay was only a step away from recovering on Ron, which he did.

Hence the failure.


Too much sense.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject:

One im not mad at ron... kobe shouldn't have put him in that position again. They should have called a time out and set up a play.. wtf were they thinking?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject:

At this point it might be a good idea to phase in Blake. Fisher is just atrocious. He was caught repeatedly in no man's land, failing to rotate.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:30 pm    Post subject:

Fisher was horrid on defense in the 4th, and thats an understatement.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject:

ForumBlueFrank wrote:
Pau played like a complete puss in the 1st 3 quarters. He finally woke up, but (bleep) give this dude some 5 Hour Energy before games. He was moving around as if he had lead weights in his shoes.


Pau should have been plenty rested at the end... PJ followed through on his commitment to up Caracter's playing time. This time Derrick got 3 minutes instead of 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:31 pm    Post subject:

Fisher should only play in the post season and he thought he was worth much more than he got?
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