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lakerican
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Please, don't mention Farmar, Brown or Bynum in the pointing fingers bunch. They were the better that play today; that's specially in the 4th.  |
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TorontoVic
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Well, can't say I expected this! Probably the win of the season for the Raps...
Lakers had a good gameplan attacking inside, but you could tell they played down to the Raptors. Their intensity wasn't there most of the game, Odom and Artest were especially horrible, plus our guys got hot at the end... |
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rpadma12
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| LakerLanny wrote: | ^It doesn't change the fact that they run the offense and lead the whole game, then for some reason stop running the offense and going into Kobe isolation mode.
Kobe is great, but he needs to stick within the team concept. |
like i said, if you are talking about asking for screens every time and that too from Bynum, I agree with you. it was poor strategy. But, Kobe was not selfish tonight at any point. far from it. |
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AutoShackMotorSports
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| kei122 wrote: | Lakers 33-11
Cav's 34-11 |
Yet we're playing like crap, imagine how it would be if we're actually playing GOOD basketball.......
POOR basketball - we're equal to the Cavs
GOOD basketball - NO TEAM can beat us.
It's a loss but so what, everybody plays OUT OF THEIR MINDS when they play us. We're just going to have to be THAT MUCH BETTER to win games (which we have been hence the 33-11 record)
No big whoop. |
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Sleepy
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The refs don't make a completely ridiculous, asinine, horribly wrong bail-out call for Turkeyglue with 1.2 left and who you all want to blame for this loss is a moot point.
I swear - I don't even know why I bother coming to this board. Most of you have no clue what you're talking about when you start blaming players for a loss. If I wasn't a Laker fan, I'd hate the Lakers after coming here to read all this crap.
I suggest most of you gives yourselves a moratorium from the board after a loss and come back the next morning when stupid crap isn't being typed from your fingers.
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night89
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| KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | We lost when Pau got beat on the switch, Bynum would have not allowed Turkoglu drive past him. |
Give me a break, You Bynum sniffers are too much. |
Did you not see Bynum did the same to Turkoglue a couple of possessions earlier? Pau is slow as hell. That was evident when Bosh easily drove on him for a layup |
Drew is one of the slowest players in the NBA. He gets beat as much as Pau does. It is just the Bynum jock sniffers can't see it or don't want to see it.
Phil left Walton in far too long to start fourth quarter and let lead slip away along with momentum. Pau has won far more games for LA since he came over then he supposedly lost. |
Bosh did not beat Bynum off the dribble even once. 18 points by Bosh. If he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him.
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Mbengaposterized
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| It's not about other teams, Lakers are injured and our bench is not MANNING UP, puts too much pressure on players like Kobe and Artest who can't play @ 100 percent, we need to make a trade to put a spark on our bench to take the pressure off |
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ofwgkta
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| It was pretty pathetic watching our guards trying to contain Jarrett Jack tonight. Dude was just abusing screens and getting practically anywhere he wanted on the court. |
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vedanta
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| AutoShackMotorSports wrote: | | kei122 wrote: | Lakers 33-11
Cav's 34-11 |
Yet we're playing like crap, imagine how it would be if we're actually playing GOOD basketball.......
POOR basketball - we're equal to the Cavs
GOOD basketball - NO TEAM can beat us.
It's a loss but so what, everybody plays OUT OF THEIR MINDS when they play us. We're just going to have to be THAT MUCH BETTER to win games (which we have been hence the 33-11 record)
No big whoop. |
I agree with most of what you said. People is drawing conclusions that are based on our worst games. What we saw in the last 3 games is NOT what we are and definately NOT what we´ll be when things go back to normal |
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Yong
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i thought it was a decent call. lots of contact. artest seemed to have jumped into him.
anyway. those who called bynum "one of the slowest feets in the nba" need to watch the game.
that boy was playing beautiful man D and help defense.
gasol late in the game --> phail by phil |
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vedanta
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| night89 wrote: | | . If Bosh he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
You know this is not the first game in which Pau faces Bosh, don´t you? You were a Laker last year, weren´t you? So you did know the way Pau tends to outplay Bosh, didn´t you... |
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rock0100
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| night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | We lost when Pau got beat on the switch, Bynum would have not allowed Turkoglu drive past him. |
Give me a break, You Bynum sniffers are too much. |
Did you not see Bynum did the same to Turkoglue a couple of possessions earlier? Pau is slow as hell. That was evident when Bosh easily drove on him for a layup |
Drew is one of the slowest players in the NBA. He gets beat as much as Pau does. It is just the Bynum jock sniffers can't see it or don't want to see it.
Phil left Walton in far too long to start fourth quarter and let lead slip away along with momentum. Pau has won far more games for LA since he came over then he supposedly lost. |
Bosh did not beat Bynum off the dribble even once. 18 points by Bosh. If he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
Did you even bother paying attention. Did you see what Bargnani did to Bynum.
As lame as the word is, Bynum was "OWNED" by Bargnani.
Oh wait, I suppose Gasol was guarding Bosh, Amir Johnson and Bargnani.  |
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jmark
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| rock0100 wrote: | Kobe played excellent today. This is the type of effort he could bring every night. Lately he has settled for a ton of perimeter shots because he knows he can still win on most nights by doing so.
This game was perfect by him though. Too bad for Kobe the rest of his team played crap defense and the refs gave the Raps a cheap call at the end. |
I agree. Kobe played well and deserves better from the LG fans. Nearly a triple double and people still complain. The last foul call was a joke.....Kobe nearly still pulled off the win. The shot was close. LO needs to wake up.
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| LakerLanny wrote: | ^It doesn't change the fact that they run the offense and lead the whole game, then for some reason stop running the offense and going into Kobe isolation mode.
Kobe is great, but he needs to stick within the team concept. |
I agree. But this helps me vent all my anger onto Bennett Salvatore. I haven't felt safe about a Lakers' win since Christmas. |
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AutoShackMotorSports
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| vedanta wrote: | | AutoShackMotorSports wrote: | | kei122 wrote: | Lakers 33-11
Cav's 34-11 |
Yet we're playing like crap, imagine how it would be if we're actually playing GOOD basketball.......
POOR basketball - we're equal to the Cavs
GOOD basketball - NO TEAM can beat us.
It's a loss but so what, everybody plays OUT OF THEIR MINDS when they play us. We're just going to have to be THAT MUCH BETTER to win games (which we have been hence the 33-11 record)
No big whoop. |
I agree with most of what you said. People is drawing conclusions that are based on our worst games. What we saw in the last 3 games is NOT what we are and definately NOT what we´ll be when things go back to normal |
Although I do think (eventually) that something DOES need to happen to spark this Laker team whether it come via trade or changing starters (just to send the team a message)
BTW would it really hurt this team if we shut down Artest for some games and put Odom in as a starter? |
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lakerican
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| harperlewis wrote: | | It was pretty pathetic watching our guards trying to contain Jarrett Jack tonight. Dude was just abusing screens and getting practically anywhere he wanted on the court. |
...err, Did you mean, Fisher?? |
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Sleepy
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| Yong wrote: | | i thought it was a decent call. lots of contact. artest seemed to have jumped into him. |
You've got to be joking.  The replay showed that he was practically untouched and out of control for the mere point of trying to get the refs to blow a whistle. If you're satisfied with NBA games being decided by calls like that, then you and the NBA deserve each other. |
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night89
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| vedanta wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | . If Bosh he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
You know this is not the first game in which Pau faces Bosh, don´t you? You were a Laker last year, weren´t you? So you did know the way Pau tends to outplay Bosh, didn´t you... |
Bynum defended Bosh last year. If Pau had guarded him, we would have had to help a lot more. |
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night89
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| rock0100 wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | We lost when Pau got beat on the switch, Bynum would have not allowed Turkoglu drive past him. |
Give me a break, You Bynum sniffers are too much. |
Did you not see Bynum did the same to Turkoglue a couple of possessions earlier? Pau is slow as hell. That was evident when Bosh easily drove on him for a layup |
Drew is one of the slowest players in the NBA. He gets beat as much as Pau does. It is just the Bynum jock sniffers can't see it or don't want to see it.
Phil left Walton in far too long to start fourth quarter and let lead slip away along with momentum. Pau has won far more games for LA since he came over then he supposedly lost. |
Bosh did not beat Bynum off the dribble even once. 18 points by Bosh. If he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
Did you even bother paying attention. Did you see what Bargnani did to Bynum.
As lame as the word is, Bynum was "OWNED" by Bargnani.
Oh wait, I suppose Gasol was guarding Bosh, Amir Johnson and Bargnani. |
Barnagni was driving past Gasol just the same, one in particular in an important time of the game. |
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| night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | We lost when Pau got beat on the switch, Bynum would have not allowed Turkoglu drive past him. |
Give me a break, You Bynum sniffers are too much. |
Did you not see Bynum did the same to Turkoglue a couple of possessions earlier? Pau is slow as hell. That was evident when Bosh easily drove on him for a layup |
Drew is one of the slowest players in the NBA. He gets beat as much as Pau does. It is just the Bynum jock sniffers can't see it or don't want to see it.
Phil left Walton in far too long to start fourth quarter and let lead slip away along with momentum. Pau has won far more games for LA since he came over then he supposedly lost. |
Bosh did not beat Bynum off the dribble even once. 18 points by Bosh. If he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
Pau was responsible for guarding Bosh and Drew with Bargani. You don't even know what you are talking about. You don't have a clue |
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Somewhat scary to see how this team played the last minute or 2; almost the anti-clutch. Moments like these are where championship teams step up their game, and the early playoff exit teams crumble. Unfortunately, no stops, no made shots, and tonight this team looked like the latter rather than the former. If it was just today, I'd shrug it off as an unlucky night, but lack of execution down the stretch also killed them against the Cavs just a couple days ago as well.
Sure it's just 2 regular season games in January, but these are some bad habits to pick up for a team expected to win a Championship. |
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Honestly,,,whose fault is this?
I saw the game and look over stat sheet,,, I couldn't find a single fault. |
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| rpadma12 wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | ^It doesn't change the fact that they run the offense and lead the whole game, then for some reason stop running the offense and going into Kobe isolation mode.
Kobe is great, but he needs to stick within the team concept. |
like i said, if you are talking about asking for screens every time and that too from Bynum, I agree with you. it was poor strategy. But, Kobe was not selfish tonight at any point. far from it. |
I always wonder if Phil is calling those plays (if you can call them plays) or if Kobe is just doing it on his own.
Either way, it is stale and predictable and ineffective. One of the reasons why they continue to blow late leads and need heroics to bail them out.
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| Sleepy wrote: | | Yong wrote: | | i thought it was a decent call. lots of contact. artest seemed to have jumped into him. |
You've got to be joking. The replay showed that he was practically untouched and out of control for the mere point of trying to get the refs to blow a whistle. If you're satisfied with NBA games being decided by calls like that, then you and the NBA deserve each other. |
i didn't watch the replay 
i was so furious that i switched off immediately.
oh well, we gotta face such calls sooner or later.
lesson is, don't even end up in such a situation.
many referees would give that kinda call. |
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night89
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| KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | KobePauShannon wrote: | | night89 wrote: | | We lost when Pau got beat on the switch, Bynum would have not allowed Turkoglu drive past him. |
Give me a break, You Bynum sniffers are too much. |
Did you not see Bynum did the same to Turkoglue a couple of possessions earlier? Pau is slow as hell. That was evident when Bosh easily drove on him for a layup |
Drew is one of the slowest players in the NBA. He gets beat as much as Pau does. It is just the Bynum jock sniffers can't see it or don't want to see it.
Phil left Walton in far too long to start fourth quarter and let lead slip away along with momentum. Pau has won far more games for LA since he came over then he supposedly lost. |
Bosh did not beat Bynum off the dribble even once. 18 points by Bosh. If he was being defended by Pau, he would have had double that, on the same amount of shots. Just look at what Lee did to him. |
Pau was responsible for guarding Bosh and Drew with Bargani. You don't even know what you are talking about. You don't have a clue |
LMAO. If you think Pau was defending Bosh today, then I've already won the argument. |
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