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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 3:43 pm    Post subject:

Imagine if the Lakers did this.

https://twitter.com/lakerssbn/status/1252378472044916738?s=21

$1M fine? Lose all draft picks for 3 years?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2020 4:23 pm    Post subject:

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Imagine if the Lakers did this.

https://twitter.com/lakerssbn/status/1252378472044916738?s=21

$1M fine? Lose all draft picks for 3 years?


That could be the Bulls PR posting the jersey of Davis in a Bulls uniform so I don’t think it’s that serious.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 5:49 am    Post subject:

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According to reports, the Kings had no interest in a Kuz for Bogdanovic deal (and they might also prefer to keep Bogdanovic over Buddy). So I really have no idea what deals are realistic for Kuz at this point.


The Kings wanted Nemanja Bjelica for him IIRC. That's still within the bogdonovic-type player range I alluded to earlier.

We may never know the exact value of Kuz. The names being thrown out, however, last season as well as his abilities as a player and contract can give us a ballpark to work with as an estimate. From my experience, player's actual values tend to be worse than what people usually predict.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:15 am    Post subject:

I have seen people talking about trading Kuzma and Green for Buddy Hield in the last 24 hours especially during Trevor Lane’s podcast show. the only obstacle is that we would be dealing with the Kings FO and there bitter fans.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:36 am    Post subject:

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I have seen people talking about trading Kuzma and Green for Buddy Hield in the last 24 hours especially during Trevor Lane’s podcast show. the only obstacle is that we would be dealing with the Kings FO and there bitter fans.



People have been talking about trading Hield for weeks. The Kuzma/Green idea is just one of a bunch of different trades that people have thrown out. This is just podcasters/reporters trying to find something to talk about.

Everything is on hold right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 6:17 pm    Post subject:

I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:11 pm    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Also have to take into consideration that we are in win now mode and Buddy would be the perfect 3rd option even though we would be losing depth we have to take advantage of LeBron’s greatness while he still has it.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:59 pm    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


I think that logic can cost us a chip. If you can get a 20ppg young player who's an elite shooter, creative scorer, attacks the basket, and is the perfect fit for your squad... you should do it if the price is right. You can always move Buddy if Giannis wants to come. Easy to trade later to cap space (maybe even get a pick out of it) or use in a S&T. That said, Kings can get better than Kuzma and Green.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:01 am    Post subject:

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LakerSD wrote:
Imagine if the Lakers did this.

https://twitter.com/lakerssbn/status/1252378472044916738?s=21

$1M fine? Lose all draft picks for 3 years?


That could be the Bulls PR posting the jersey of Davis in a Bulls uniform so I don’t think it’s that serious.


It could also be tampering with Ed Davis for all you know.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 5:57 am    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Also have to take into consideration that we are in win now mode and Buddy would be the perfect 3rd option even though we would be losing depth we have to take advantage of LeBron’s greatness while he still has it.


We were kinda 1st in the west when NBA stopped, i imagine the management would see it as enough for next season, with some changes like adding wing defense, ball handling and a small ball 'center'. You can do that and still put yourself in position to wait for Giannis FA, which i think there is no way we would skip.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:01 am    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


I think that logic can cost us a chip. If you can get a 20ppg young player who's an elite shooter, creative scorer, attacks the basket, and is the perfect fit for your squad... you should do it if the price is right. You can always move Buddy if Giannis wants to come. Easy to trade later to cap space (maybe even get a pick out of it) or use in a S&T. That said, Kings can get better than Kuzma and Green.

Man I miss my Lakers.


Youre maybe right but i just dont see us not going all in 2021. Having a shot at a perennial MVP is worth it
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 7:34 am    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Once we get AD re-signed, I would go all in for a win-now team. I don't think 2021/Giannis is a real possibility. I see Giannis wanting to be the next LBJ, not join him and AD. Doesn't seem like a frontrunner type of guy to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:01 am    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Once we get AD re-signed, I would go all in for a win-now team. I don't think 2021/Giannis is a real possibility. I see Giannis wanting to be the next LBJ, not join him and AD. Doesn't seem like a frontrunner type of guy to me.


Exactly, If we knew we had a shot at Giannis then sure let’s wait until 2021 but we have no idea what he’s thinking.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 8:11 am    Post subject:

Speculation that a prolonged shutdown could force some teams on the market including Rockets, Jazz, Grizzlies, 76ers and the Lakers. Family owned franchises might not be able to sustain the loss of revenue, some of those franchises have already cut costs.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 11:26 am    Post subject:

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Speculation that a prolonged shutdown could force some teams on the market including Rockets, Jazz, Grizzlies, 76ers and the Lakers.



That doesn't make a lot of sense to me since most of those teams are owned by people who are multi-billionaires. Even if the rest of the season is cancelled, it's hard to imagine any of these teams can't weather things, as they did in the past shutdowns. Where have you seen this speculation, or do you mean this is just your speculation?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 12:58 pm    Post subject:

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Speculation that a prolonged shutdown could force some teams on the market including Rockets, Jazz, Grizzlies, 76ers and the Lakers.



That doesn't make a lot of sense to me since most of those teams are owned by people who are multi-billionaires. Even if the rest of the season is cancelled, it's hard to imagine any of these teams can't weather things, as they did in the past shutdowns. Where have you seen this speculation, or do you mean this is just your speculation?


It was a lead in on Twitter but the article was behind a paywall. I am guessing that they were implying family ownership won’t weather the loss of profits as well as corporate ownership. The league was already down $500 mil in revenue from China.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 2:47 pm    Post subject:

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Speculation that a prolonged shutdown could force some teams on the market including Rockets, Jazz, Grizzlies, 76ers and the Lakers.



That doesn't make a lot of sense to me since most of those teams are owned by people who are multi-billionaires. Even if the rest of the season is cancelled, it's hard to imagine any of these teams can't weather things, as they did in the past shutdowns. Where have you seen this speculation, or do you mean this is just your speculation?


It was a lead in on Twitter but the article was behind a paywall. I am guessing that they were implying family ownership won’t weather the loss of profits as well as corporate ownership. The league was already down $500 mil in revenue from China.



I don't know who these story is from, and I don't know if those numbers are right. The estimates I've seen are that the league makes $500 million from China a year in total. I have seen one estimate that if the games were cancelled entirely it would cost $500 million.

The league makes about $9 billion in total. Let's say if the season ends today, teams revenues are 30% less than expected. Now, the players will take a hit for some of that since they share in half the total revenues.

The way NBA teams keep their books it's hard to know how much each book would truly lose. But it's hard for me to imagine it would be enough to force all these multi-billionaire owners to sell.

The Busses have less money, but even if they get a smaller payout this year hard to imagine it would force them to sell. But maybe. Hard to know without knowing the real numbers.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2020 6:59 pm    Post subject:

The Lakers and 76ers have both cut staff salaries, I don’t know about the other teams. The $500 mil from China came from one of Eric’s articles.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 12:49 pm    Post subject:

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The Lakers and 76ers have both cut staff salaries, I don’t know about the other teams. The $500 mil from China came from one of Eric’s articles.



Cutting staff salaries doesn't indicate that an owner is so strapped he would be forced to sell if the season is cancelled. The 76ers owner is worth $4 billion. He got a huge amount of criticism for cutting salaries, considering how much cash he has. He's just a jerk.

My guess is the Twitter thing you saw was just some podcaster with nothing to talk about pulling something out of his behind to fill time.

Eric is just a blogger who regurgitates information from other reporters. I would want to know where he got the China estimate you are referencing, because I haven't seen that estimate anywhere myself.


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 7:48 pm    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Once we get AD re-signed, I would go all in for a win-now team. I don't think 2021/Giannis is a real possibility. I see Giannis wanting to be the next LBJ, not join him and AD. Doesn't seem like a frontrunner type of guy to me.


I tend to agree with that, but you just know we will try for Giannis. We always aim high
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2020 8:30 pm    Post subject:

GOODRICH25 wrote:
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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


Once we get AD re-signed, I would go all in for a win-now team. I don't think 2021/Giannis is a real possibility. I see Giannis wanting to be the next LBJ, not join him and AD. Doesn't seem like a frontrunner type of guy to me.


I tend to agree with that, but you just know we will try for Giannis. We always aim high



Gianni's is not coming while LeBron is here; so, he's not coming. It's a wasted effort, IMO.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:35 am    Post subject:

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I cant see us do anything without taking FA 2021 into consideration. And Buddy Hield has a contract beyond summer of 2021 iirc


I think that logic can cost us a chip. If you can get a 20ppg young player who's an elite shooter, creative scorer, attacks the basket, and is the perfect fit for your squad... you should do it if the price is right. You can always move Buddy if Giannis wants to come. Easy to trade later to cap space (maybe even get a pick out of it) or use in a S&T. That said, Kings can get better than Kuzma and Green.

Man I miss my Lakers.


Youre maybe right but i just dont see us not going all in 2021. Having a shot at a perennial MVP is worth it


How would we have a shot with virtually no cap space? Are we going to abandon Lebron or AD?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:44 am    Post subject:

So the Bulls just hired a new GM who I have never heard of, hopefully he doesn’t mind trading Zach LaVine.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 7:47 am    Post subject:

https://twitter.com/kevinarnovitz/status/1254798082329329664?s=21

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"The @Lakers have returned approximately $4.6 million that they received from a federal government program intended to help small businesses weather the economic burden caused by the coronavirus pandemic"


Yikes, not a good look.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:37 am    Post subject:

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So the Bulls just hired a new GM who I have never heard of, hopefully he doesn’t mind trading Zach LaVine.


For Lebron or AD?
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